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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: MP-Ryan on September 22, 2009, 06:42:05 pm
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More evidence demonstrating the complete stupidity of several members of the uneducated rabble protesting a number of political causes in the US lately =)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/21/the-funniest-protest-sign_n_292342.html
I think my favourite is the "No idea what they're talking about" one. That's priceless.
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I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Fox kept people infromed ;)
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Ah, Fox...
Remember their ad saying all the other news outlets didn't cover the teabaggers when every single one of them covered the teabaggers?
CNN responded quite well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igZZzs3MR7Y
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Yay Arrested Development!
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More evidence demonstrating the complete stupidity of several members of the uneducated rabble protesting a number of political causes in the US lately =)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/21/the-funniest-protest-sign_n_292342.html
I think my favourite is the "No idea what they're talking about" one. That's priceless.
Also saw a link on the top of that page about a couple of celebreties saying the public option is bad. Wonder how much they were paid......
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More evidence demonstrating the complete stupidity of several members of the uneducated rabble protesting a number of political causes in the US lately =)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/21/the-funniest-protest-sign_n_292342.html
I think my favourite is the "No idea what they're talking about" one. That's priceless.
Also saw a link on the top of that page about a couple of celebreties saying the public option is bad. Wonder how much they were paid......
by the sick people who are afraid of the pubic death panels. not insurance companies, they are a godsend, trying their best to not pay money so save lives. not, they are fraking angels.
WTF scrollbar, i try to type post, but you won't let me see what it is i am typing...unless i am holding down a letter or spacebar. bad forum!
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I'm going to assume that's sarcasm.
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"No idea what they're talking about"
That's now my desktop wallpaper
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More evidence demonstrating the complete stupidity of several members of the uneducated rabble protesting a number of political causes in the US lately =)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/21/the-funniest-protest-sign_n_292342.html
I think my favourite is the "No idea what they're talking about" one. That's priceless.
I suppose you'll want them to eat cake as well, my dear Antoinette?
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More evidence demonstrating the complete stupidity of several members of the uneducated rabble protesting a number of political causes in the US lately =)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/21/the-funniest-protest-sign_n_292342.html
I think my favourite is the "No idea what they're talking about" one. That's priceless.
I suppose you'll want them to eat cake as well, my dear Antoinette?
*eyeroll*
I have this theory that, if people were required to know something about a subject before arguing over it or protesting about it, the world would be a much more rational, reasonable, and productive place.
Uneducated rabble is a fairly charitable term for some of those people.
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:lol:
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More evidence demonstrating the complete stupidity of several members of the uneducated rabble protesting a number of political causes in the US lately =)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/21/the-funniest-protest-sign_n_292342.html
I think my favourite is the "No idea what they're talking about" one. That's priceless.
I suppose you'll want them to eat cake as well, my dear Antoinette?
*eyeroll*
I have this theory that, if people were required to know something about a subject before arguing over it or protesting about it, the world would be a much more rational, reasonable, and productive place.
Uneducated rabble is a fairly charitable term for some of those people.
but in that more rational place we wouldn't bet lasting moments of humor like these
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More evidence demonstrating the complete stupidity of several members of the uneducated rabble protesting a number of political causes in the US lately =)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/21/the-funniest-protest-sign_n_292342.html
I think my favourite is the "No idea what they're talking about" one. That's priceless.
I suppose you'll want them to eat cake as well, my dear Antoinette?
So you're supporting these guys by comparing them to a bunch of bloodthirsty powerbrokers who beheaded a lot of people (mostly each other) and then turned things over to Napoleon?
Nice!
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ok, when the republicans get power back in 4 years they get to call all the liberal protesters anti-American troublemakers and terrorists funded by North Korea and Iran all they want and you all are not allowed to call them on it.
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ok, when the republicans get power back in 4 years they get to call all the liberal protesters anti-American troublemakers and terrorists funded by North Korea and Iran all they want and you all are not allowed to call them on it.
Lol, isn't that what they did for the last 8 years?
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Actually I read something somewhere about the American healthcare system.
The gist of it was that if they don't reform it they will have to spend about 150% of their GDP on it in 50 years time, if it stays on the same trend that it has been following for some time. Now I don't know much but I think that that is not going to work :D
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More evidence demonstrating the complete stupidity of several members of the uneducated rabble protesting a number of political causes in the US lately =)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/21/the-funniest-protest-sign_n_292342.html
I think my favourite is the "No idea what they're talking about" one. That's priceless.
I suppose you'll want them to eat cake as well, my dear Antoinette?
*eyeroll*
I have this theory that, if people were required to know something about a subject before arguing over it or protesting about it, the world would be a much more rational, reasonable, and productive place.
Uneducated rabble is a fairly charitable term for some of those people.
As opposed to the educated rabble that comes from our government when they say that Republicans turned the Americans by spreading a few lies, despite the fact that it's the same people who voted them in? Please.
As far as rabble goes, give me the un-educated kind, the educated kind has a much higher chance of just being flat out lies.
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Politics has become a joke anyway, got a Labour leaflet today, and ALL it contained was 'What the Tories will do', not one word about 'What we will do'. It's pathetic, we've reached a point now where everyone is either lying or ignorant according to everyone else, which is why the whole process of growth in the Western world is stagnating.
People are going to have to come to terms with the fact that just because someone proves you wrong, it doesn't mean they are lying, and if someone doesn't like your idea, it doesn't mean they are ignorant.
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(http://www.ourfuture.org/files/images/912Sign-CzarCollage.jpg)
(http://www.ourfuture.org/files/images/912Sign-BatmanAntiChrist.jpg)
uneducated rabble
but this one wins for most ironic
(http://www.ourfuture.org/files/images/912Sign-Gullible.jpg)
yeah, they really don't want to know
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Don't those people have anything better to do?
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how stupid do we think they are, they allowed the chip in chief g.w.bush jr to take office
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As opposed to the educated rabble that comes from our government when they say that Republicans turned the Americans by spreading a few lies, despite the fact that it's the same people who voted them in? Please.
As far as rabble goes, give me the un-educated kind, the educated kind has a much higher chance of just being flat out lies.
From the way you're using the word 'rabble' I suspect you don't know what it means... since that makes no grammatical sense whatsoever.
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Is that an Obama/Che Guevara poster I spy? That might actually be cool in a not as it was intended sorta way.
Anyway has this made the rounds?
http://pubrecord.org/multimedia/5191/revealed-party-march-really-about/ (http://pubrecord.org/multimedia/5191/revealed-party-march-really-about/)
On the bright side at least the nimrods in this seem to have a grasp of the difference between Czarist Russia and the C.C.C.P :P
Okay thats not much of a bright side.
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Also check this site out, it was linked to the original's topic: http://godhatesprotesters.wordpress.com
I thought these were hilarious
(http://godhatesprotesters.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/2237794293_9706f9c78e_b.jpg)
(Shirley is one of Phelp's daughters, she's 50+ :ick: lol )
(http://godhatesprotesters.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/3342742419_5f2c7f8465_b.jpg)
(http://godhatesprotesters.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/2jaksqa.jpg)
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More evidence demonstrating the complete stupidity of several members of the uneducated rabble protesting a number of political causes in the US lately =)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/21/the-funniest-protest-sign_n_292342.html
I think my favourite is the "No idea what they're talking about" one. That's priceless.
I suppose you'll want them to eat cake as well, my dear Antoinette?
*eyeroll*
I have this theory that, if people were required to know something about a subject before arguing over it or protesting about it, the world would be a much more rational, reasonable, and productive place.
Uneducated rabble is a fairly charitable term for some of those people.
As opposed to the educated rabble that comes from our government when they say that Republicans turned the Americans by spreading a few lies, despite the fact that it's the same people who voted them in? Please.
As far as rabble goes, give me the un-educated kind, the educated kind has a much higher chance of just being flat out lies.
Ahaha, don't think you know what 'rabble' means. Dictionary time.
Oh, MP-Ryan got there first.
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Scooby that last one wants framing
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I can't believe no one has posted Descent yet!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y&feature=player_embedded
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ok, when the republicans get power back in 4 years they get to call all the liberal protesters anti-American troublemakers and terrorists funded by North Korea and Iran all they want and you all are not allowed to call them on it.
Lol, isn't that what they did for the last 8 years?
if you keep groping around you might stumble upon my point, you are very close to it.
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That repubs have no right to whine about being called retarded and anti-american and hateful, stupid people because that's what they did for the past 8 years to liberals?
Or are you saying something more like "liberals shouldn't point out the inanity of the tea parties protesting against health care/insurance reforms because liberals totally protested things which were good for the american people, like invading foreign countries on false pretenses for the profits of private companies."
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Not all Presidents are equal, so not all protests about them are equal.
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While I think that is a valid point, some people are just ******* crazy. It just gets a little more coverage this time because the republicans lost.
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liberal protests are more equal than conservative protests.
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liberal protests are more equal than conservative protests.
In America all protesters are equal, but some are more equal than others ;)
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liberal protests are more equal than conservative protests.
Or perhaps they manage to protest without rampant stupidity and racism.
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I shouldn't have to ask this, particularly of you folks in your ivory towers of light and goodness, but can we keep accusations of racism to a minimum? You have no knowledge of the hearts or minds of the people you insult.
Of course, in a shocking turn of events, you liberals or progressives or whatever the hell you want to be labeled as, seem to have obfuscated the argument by accusing they're opponents of racism.
Oh wait....YOU DO IT EVERY TIME!
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Not only have I not ever said that, I think we even discussed this very subject here not more than a few days ago.
Why would you bring it..... oh wait, you're you!
I, who just got done saying the exact opposite in another thread, got lumped in with the other liberals because "we do it all the time". Guess what? I didn't do it!
You said "Don't make blanket accusations" and then made a blanket accusation!
Could it be that instead of disavowing the people who are clearly racist you try to turn attention back to the other side because they people are aiming at the same results you are?
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@Libe: Well, maybe when the conservative movement isn't made up mainly of racists we'll stop.
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BL, what I would recommend is what I would recommend to my side as well, either take the argument back from the crazies and crack-pots or abandon them to they're bloviating non-sense and obfuscation.
That's what's getting missed in the "main-stream" media coverage, as well as some of the more conservative news sources, of the tea-parties and protests and what not, it's not that the protesters are racist or don't want change. We ALL want the health care industry to be cheaper and more user friendly. What we object to is Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, "Dingy" Harry Reed, Chris Dodd and the rest of the "usual suspects" forcing yet another bloated, unendingly complex and costly government program down our throats that will be bankrupt in a decade and need fixing again.
Name me one, just ONE, government program that comes in at or under it's estimated cost.
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I shouldn't have to ask this, particularly of you folks in your ivory towers of light and goodness, but can we keep accusations of racism to a minimum? You have no knowledge of the hearts or minds of the people you insult.
Look at the pictures at the start of the thread. Want to tell me that those aren't racist?
I didn't say all Republicans are racist. I said that the Liberals manage to have protests without racist elements turning up. Had someone tried to join a Liberal protest with something like that they'd have been kicked out/kicked to death. :p
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BL, what I would recommend is what I would recommend to my side as well, either take the argument back from the crazies and crack-pots or abandon them to they're bloviating non-sense and obfuscation.
Great, name me some crazies who are "bloviating nonsense and obfuscating" things on the left. Go ahead. High level Democrats in politics or even prominent leftists journalists who are doing this.
And while you're at it, you can tell me what exactly they're trying to block? How are they doing it? I can tell you how those are the right are doing it and who they are if you like.
I'll take a bet and say you'll come up with quotes about the right isn't looking for debate but just wants to block things. I'm really looking for blocking of Republican plans and ideas.
That's what's getting missed in the "main-stream" media coverage, as well as some of the more conservative news sources, of the tea-parties and protests and what not, it's not that the protesters are racist or don't want change. We ALL want the health care industry to be cheaper and more user friendly. What we object to is Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, "Dingy" Harry Reed, Chris Dodd and the rest of the "usual suspects" forcing yet another bloated, unendingly complex and costly government program down our throats that will be bankrupt in a decade and need fixing again.
A deflection from the obvious racists in the party and an attempt to turn attention back to the Democrats? Amazing. Well then lets sit down and talk about what plans you have for fixing this obvious problem. How do you lower health care costs for people?
Name me one, just ONE, government program that comes in at or under it's estimated cost.
That's ok, I automatically assume any project will run over time and budget. That's government AND private. It's worked pretty well so far. Even if it does run over budget, it's still far better than what we have now.
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What we object to is Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, "Dingy" Harry Reed, Chris Dodd and the rest of the "usual suspects" forcing yet another bloated, unendingly complex and costly government program down our throats that will be bankrupt in a decade and need fixing again.
Even though your country does seem to be filled with plenty of people who could be considered brain-dead, many of whom you elect into positions of power over you, the fact that every other developed country has managed to do it in some form or another would suggest that it's not healthcare that is the problem but rather the country, which the conservative politicians are still unable to grasp.
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You need to be careful though. Sure its easy to point and laugh and dismiss the entire opposition as a bunch of crazies. There are quite a few mind you, some of the folks on this forum only exemplify that, and they need to be bludgeoned with an Encyclopedia Sledgehammer. That said there are plenty more who actually have legitimate concerns about whats going on. America's population demographics lean heavily towards soon to be retirees, and any time you think your going to screw around with healthcare this close to when they need it is going to be hitting a hornets nest with a stick. The timing is bad, its one thing if we were a youthful healthy nation any problems with the new healthcare system could be fixed by the time it was needed, but we're not. Its coming on the heels of a recession, onto a generation of baby boomers. That so many are scared ****less about the government's expenditure plans means there has been a fundamental failure to explain what they are planning and to assuage folks' fears. Sure you can blame Fox News but politics isn't fair, and the Democrats are losing the propaganda war.
So while its certainly worth a chuckle to look at the stupid bastards who think czars are a Soviet Russian phenomenon, don't think you can just dissmiss the whole issue. If the Democrats continue to fail at proving their healthcare bill is worth implementing and just decide to label everybody who opposes it a racist and ram it through don't be surprised when they find their asses out of office come next election. I cringe to think what kind of scary neoCon bastards we will end up with if this whole thing blows up in the Democrats faces. Government works best if its balanced and they are forced to compromise and work cooperatively to make things happen, instead over the past years the power has just been seesawing back and forth between extremes.
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So while its certainly worth a chuckle to look at the stupid bastards who think czars are a Soviet Russian phenomenon, don't think you can just dissmiss the whole issue. If the Democrats continue to fail at proving their healthcare bill is worth implementing and just decide to label everybody who opposes it a racist and ram it through don't be surprised when they find their asses out of office come next election. I cringe to think what kind of scary neoCon bastards we will end up with if this whole thing blows up in the Democrats faces. Government works best if its balanced and they are forced to compromise and work cooperatively to make things happen, instead over the past years the power has just been seesawing back and forth between extremes.
Except they aren't. Is it not possible people are tired of Republicans because they're....... trying to block important legislation by using phrases like "death panel"? The racists are just a bonus of crazy.
I fail to see why Democrats have to please the vocal minority that we all agree is a minority. Why doesn't the opposition to the healthcare plan tell the crazies to shut up that they're ruining any chance they have of making their voices heard?
Oh yea, they just want to kill the current plan so any noise is good noise.
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You don't seem to get the point. Sure the pitch fork waving crazies are getting all the headlines, but they are not the ones you need to worry about. I've seen gallop polls indicating the Democrats have been steadily losing ground on the domestic policy issues. Hell I live in New England and I've heard plenty of normal well adjusted people express concerns about the healthcare bill and the massive government expenditures. That is the issue that needs to be addressed. The government needs to sell this healthcare bill to the moderates and independents not just their own party. Just because the most vocal group are the few ignorant cattle, doesn't mean you can just dismiss the whole problem. It's not as simple as a bunch of poster waving bigots and obstructionist GOP lapdogs not worthy of licking TR's boots clean.
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I tend to agree with Slayer on this one. When this many people are worried about something every other Western democracy has then something has gone badly wrong with explaining what it is.
Sure we can have a chuckle at the racists and idiots but we shouldn't assume that's all there is to this. It's just that the racists and idiots are the ones turning up for tea parties. There are a lot more who aren't like that who are still worried.
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Again, the argument isn't that the system is in need of improvement.
I just refuse to let people who are so disconnected from the common man than they can't understand what people are worried about and seem to be doing everything they can to divert attention from themselves or they're intentions with this particular piece of legislation.
I mean it's telling about a lot of things when Jon Stewart is lamenting that he somehow managed to scoop the New York Times in covering these people.
There's a word for this:
Corruption
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It's not that we can't understand what they're worried about. It's that what they're worried about happens to be a pack of lies sold by the conservative media. There are no "Death Panels," your grandma won't die, your healthcare won't be more expensive, your taxes will not be increased, and socialism is not a bad thing.
In this case, your "common man" are morons, and they further they are from the people making decisions, the better
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Again, the argument isn't that the system is in need of improvement.
I just refuse to let people who are so disconnected from the common man than they can't understand what people are worried about and seem to be doing everything they can to divert attention from themselves or they're intentions with this particular piece of legislation.
I mean it's telling about a lot of things when Jon Stewart is lamenting that he somehow managed to scoop the New York Times in covering these people.
There's a word for this:
Corruption
You're talking about Republicans, right? I think you're right. I think the way they have no idea what the common man wants (they are the lowest polling group). They are doing a good job of diverting attention away from themselves and directing it back to the President.
The reason it's so hard to come up with any real idea on what these "common men" are talking about is they are so wide ranging you can't even keep track.
Obama is a socialist, a fascist, a Nazi, a communist, a Muslim. He's not a US citizen.
Public option is polling high. Regulation on health insurance companies is polling high. When they ask people about specific parts of the health plan, people like it. When they ask about Obama's health plan (which is the same thing) people dislike. They don't dislike the plan, they just said they liked all the parts of it. It's spin to tell people Obama is bad.
The "problem" is that eventually the chanting from the right is going to die down or move onto another issue. When that happens there won't be any real resistance to the issue because no one one the right is coming up with a differing plan.
Give me something, anything. Show me a plan. A detailed, thought out plan with goals. The plan the Repubs threw together with the circles and lines was literally laughed at.
So until the real right wing tells these idiots to shut up and put forth a real alternative, it's just too bad. You can't let the morons lead the charge and then complain when no one takes you seriously.
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The "common man" goes more on instinct than someone who has been trained as a leader. Instinctively he is going to go with what seems best for him, operative word being "seems". He isn't thinking about everyone else. And the common man as you refer to him is a Republican, and while I don't like to make blanket statements, most Republicans were brought up a certain way - to follow and not lead. To listen to everything a perceived (or actual) higher power says.
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You know what amuses me? That this was originally a thread showing some funny protest signs, and has now devolved/evolved into a thread about Republicans and the common man, as far as I can tell.
Yep. HLP; We Know Thread-Derailment.
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I thought we weren't supposed to make threads of just images?
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The common Modern Man (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXHlMBjq240)? :p