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Hosted Projects - Standalone => Diaspora => Topic started by: Hotdog on January 17, 2010, 06:46:27 pm
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Are the people who are making the mod or the mod itself dead?Its just that its been 2 years without even a demo release.I hope this wont go the way of BTRL and die.
I also got some ideas for ships you should include if the mod is still on.
Viper MK1s-There virtual the same as the TOS ones except using the re-imagined series weaponry instead of lasers.Probably not as maneuverable as the mk2 either.
First Cylon war Raiders-You could just use a tos raider model until one that looks more like the razor ones is made.
First Cylon War Basestar-Like the MK1 viper its exactly the same as TOS BSG version but just with re-imagined series weaponry like missiles and kews.
You all should just make this mod open source and release what you have.It would get done faster that way with more people being able to help.
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hahaha, no... they are certainly not dead at all.
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You all should just make this mod open source and release what you have.It would get done faster that way with more people being able to help.
That's almost certainly not how that would go. Rather than having a dozen threads saying things like "Here's some new music" or "Here's a coding trick to make catapult launches work" You'd have 2 dozen threads saying "You released this - where's the music!" or "Why don't catapult launches work! You said they'd work in release 1!", not to mention the nightmare of tech supporting something that's half finished and therefore would have a massive number of potential combinations, installation mistakes etc. The team would spend more time on tech support than making new content.
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Are the people who are making the mod or the mod itself dead?Its just that its been 2 years without even a demo release.I hope this wont go the way of BTRL and die.
Way to start your membership here, mate. Had you taken the time to check the Developer's Blog, you would have realized that this mod is very much alive.
You all should just make this mod open source and release what you have.It would get done faster that way with more people being able to help.
Unfortunately, mod development does not work that way. It takes a set of very specialized skills to make a good mod, and most of those cannot be "open sourced". Given the mod teams quality standards, and the amount of skill present, we have every reason to be confident that, when they release it, it will be awesome. If they need help, they'll announce it in the recruitment threads.
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It's not dead, in fact we've had updates fairly recently and have been making pretty good progress lately. Two years isn't really a lot to basically develop a new game of this scope from the ground up by a team of volunteers. Heck, lots of commercial games are in development for even longer then that and those are made by larger teams of people who are paid to work on it at least 8 hours a day, if not more.
If I may suggest, the next time you have a question take a look on the forums and see if it has been already asked and answered recently.
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I didnt even know you had a developer blog.But im glad to here that the mod is still being worked on and not dead.I really hope at least a demo is released soon.
Also its nice to see your all alive!
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I didnt even know you had a developer blog.But im glad to here that the mod is still being worked on and not dead.I really hope at least a demo is released soon.
Seriously, check the forums for already answered questions before asking them. For instance the answer to your question above can be found in the FAQ (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=56783.0). It's there for exactly these sort of questions.
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I do however have a question that I didnt see on the FAQ.Willl you be having first Cylon war ships like the ones I listed?Id love to fly around in a MK1 Viper and go against those old style Baseships!
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I do however have a question that I didnt see on the FAQ.Willl you be having first Cylon war ships like the ones I listed?Id love to fly around in a MK1 Viper and go against those old style Baseships!
For the first release? no. Eventually? Quite likely.
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I do however have a question that I didnt see on the FAQ.Willl you be having first Cylon war ships like the ones I listed?Id love to fly around in a MK1 Viper and go against those old style Baseships!
For the first release? no. Eventually? Quite likely.
If/when we get round to 1CW it'll be done right, with some sweet new hardware and a campaign.
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I'll tell you this, when it's complete, it will be a triumph, we'll even make a note, 'huge success' ;)
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Are the people who are making the mod or the mod itself dead?Its just that its been 2 years without even a demo release...You all should just make this mod open source and release what you have.It would get done faster that way with more people being able to help.
I don't understand how people could come up with ideas like this.
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I do however have a question that I didnt see on the FAQ.Willl you be having first Cylon war ships like the ones I listed?Id love to fly around in a MK1 Viper and go against those old style Baseships!
There's an original series mod which was released good half dozen years ago at least.
I don't suppose anyone can give this guy a hint?
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First of all I have not seen that mod your talking about anywhere.Also the TOS ships have different weaponry than the rdm first cylon war ones so lasers going up against machine guns would look silly and out of place.But I dont think it would be that hard to change the weapons with a little moding.
Do you have a link to that old mod?Id like to try out my modding skills by changing the weapons myself.
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Relax. The old mod Dekker's talking about was unknown to me until recently as well.
Heck... I'd need to dig through my posts to find the thread I even learned of its existance from! Regardless, it was never finished. One of the Colonial vessels is currently being considered for a ship in BP:WiH, though.
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I'm on about the OLD OLD one made by IPA.
Karajorma knows the one I think. It had the big G, Vipers, Raiders and sounds/music. That's all ;)
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Yalp. I even suggested the possibility of updating a few of the ships for use in Diaspora. As the levels of detail/quality isn't that good in comparison to what the team is shooting for though, that was not taken in for consideration.
I'd really like to see them get a Scorpion or "Mk. I" Viper in place, though. :nod:
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Id really love a link to download it!
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Did a bit of digging:
http://swc.fs2downloads.com/files/bsgalpha/
I'm not sure you can even get those to run... or what else of this mod was made but disappeared.
...By the way, could someone add a Wiki entry about the mod in question? I'm not skilled in editing the Wiki, but having a page about defunct modding projects would be really nice for those of us who don't know too much about things like Imperial Alliance or the TOS BSG mod...
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Awesome.Thanks!
And which wiki are you talking about?
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No one posted a FS2Freak-esque post yet? You'd think it'd be tradition in this kinda threads ...
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Awesome.Thanks!
And which wiki are you talking about?
The FreeSpace Wiki, of course! It should be on the top of your browser next to the Forums tab. It's stuffed with all manner of FS and FS-derived/related goodness. It's also a great way to waste some time (keep clicking on "random page"). :nod:
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FSWiki is cool, but if you really want to waste hours of your valuable time, go here (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HomePage)
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I was thinking you were talking about the BSG wiki.For some reason Beyond The Red Line is listed as a fan game but Diaspora isnt.Mabey if I have time I can sign up for a wiki account and add it.
This is off topic but does anyone know were I can download a .vp extractor?
Also was the ship you were talking from the TOS BSG mod the defender?That would be great in Diaspora.Everythings there including the turret guns!All it needs is some good new series style textures similar to the Bolitho and it would fit in perfectly with the rest of the fleet!
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Use maja for all VP extraction needs.
http://www.freespacemods.net/download.php?view.67
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Thanks!
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This is a new one to me, I was talking about an EVEN older one, pre 2001 even........
But this one's cool :D
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This is a new one to me, I was talking about an EVEN older one, pre 2001 even........
But this one's cool :D
:wtf:
Do tell, my good man...
...He who gives link will recieve cookie...
Also, if necessary I can link to the threads which deal with the files I linked to.
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I'm attempting a search for any old trails leading to anything linked to it...
But all search results yielded are <not a bad thing> flooded with Diaspora and BTRL :lol:
I'll update you on this when i find more.
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BAM!
Here you go
http://underworld.fortunecity.com/pacman/106/fs2mods/
Regretably the page it links to is dead, but there you go... the pictures are proof ireffutable of an aincent BSG mod. :D
UPDATE EDIT, Some of the single ship pages have download links which work. I'd suggest archive and upload to freespacemods.net. But ask IPAndrews first........ :nervous:
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Thanks for that link.I did manage to get the raider and MK 1 Viper in the game.I used BTRL as the base.Ill try and take a good screen pic to post soon.
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Well, the Viper definately looks more dated than Raptor's version, but I do recognize the missile platform down at the bottom:
http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/GTBC_Black_Widow
...I wonder if some of those assets weren't used in Raptor's mod attempt as well...
I'll admit that I don't want to put myself in a position where I have learn how to do Wiki editing - I've got too many projects as is. But damn, we really need to get an incomplete/abandoned mod listing going in the Wiki. Sooner or later, absolutely NO ONE is going to know about any of these archaic projects, what they managed to achieve, or have any simple way of finding out about them.
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Double post for great justice... or something:
Here's the page where I found the links to the old assets on - the topic is Dragon's:
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=61425.0
Here's the actual thread (that I'm aware of) which Raptor discusses his project:
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,51708.0.html
Dragon said he'd try and work with these assets for something... perhaps we should hit him up for any additional info?
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Heres the TOS Viper in BTRL!Sorry the pic is so large.
(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/4608/screen0011.jpg)
I think the textures are to bland and cartoonish.It would look great with some updated rdm bsg style textures dont you think?
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That is not very close to Diaspora/BtRL standards, I'm afraid.
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Definately dated. :p
WHAT I AM impressed with is that you got that in game, working, in such a short amount of time without all the pain experienced by so many other people trying to get new assets to work properly.
<Thaeris gives Hotdog mad props. :yes: :yes: :yes:>
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It was easy.All I did was just extract the vp files and copy the models and textures into the folders and edited the ship list file.For the weapons I just changed the lasers to the standard MEC-A6 guns.Im working on the raider now.
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(http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/battstarg/images/tooclose.jpg)
(http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/battstarg/images/flee.jpg)
:P
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I did quite a bit of work on those assets, re-exporting them to fix collision issues and locating missing textures, etc. I had a full set of stuff working together in game at one point, but the interest seemed to have died out in them.
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Is good stuff there, the Hades class Basestar is part of my BtRL Modfolder.
I use it only as a "Blockade" ship though ( like the Tradefederation ships in SW ep I ), since it has the habit of turning in a vertical position during attacks/ waypoint movement, and i'm too lazy to fix that.
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Is good stuff there, the Hades class Basestar is part of my BtRL Modfolder.
I didn't know BtRL had a Hades. Does Diaspora still have it? Or was this removed when the BtRL team split into two. I've said it before but the Hades is very funny to watch in-game. At least by interpretation of it which was based on the show. 100+ turrets, all making stupid sound effects, all of them somehow incredibly inaccurate. Really it achieved little more than putting on an impressive light show. Unless you stick two or three of them next to a Battlestar. In which case they don't have to be quite so accurate to hit the slow big target, and slowly but surely they'll pulverise it.
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http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/GTBC_Black_Widow
:lol: I was young. Ok? My favorite bit is "best suited to providing long range fire support" and missile launchers each "Each twisting 360o and panning up to 90o". Now if you're sat 10k away from a battle launching cruise missiles why the hell do you need missile launchers that can twist to shoot behind you at a moment's notice. If you think about it for more than ten seconds the concept starts to unravel into stupidity. But it does look like a spider :yes:. Sorry for the off topic post I was quite surprised to see this piece of rubbish on HLP.
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http://underworld.fortunecity.com/pacman/106/fs2mods/
Regretably the page it links to is dead, but there you go... the pictures are proof ireffutable of an aincent BSG mod. :D
UPDATE EDIT, Some of the single ship pages have download links which work. I'd suggest archive and upload to freespacemods.net. But ask IPAndrews first........ :nervous:
Oh now I see what happened. Dude did you really think they'd ask me me before taking? That's not website policy. Anyway. Those models are early versions you can have them. I abandoned that site and forgot about it. I'll kill it. I improved the models with better geometry, fewer better textures, better uv, etc... Those versions can be seen here (http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/battstarg/). All I had to do was get the Battlestar working but that was the biggest nightmare in the history of mankind to texture. They got too carried away with the surface detail and there was little decent reference material. That thing halted progress to a deathly standstill.
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Oh now I see what happened. Dude did you really think they'd ask me me before taking? That's not website policy.
**** it. Banned for a week.
If you don't want to have the same argument over and over again you should stop starting it up all the time.
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I <3 you kara.
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Someone beet me to putting up the basestar pic.Oh well.Been busy lately anyway.I would love to see some updated textures for those models.
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Someone beet me to putting up the basestar pic.Oh well.Been busy lately anyway.I would love to see some updated textures for those models.
Would need new models too, textures can only do so much. They were great for the time but art standards keep going up.
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I think he means he has a custom mod for BtRL. It was never part of Diaspora or BtRL.
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Oh now I see what happened. Dude did you really think they'd ask me me before taking? That's not website policy.
**** it. Banned for a week.
If you don't want to have the same argument over and over again you should stop starting it up all the time.
Yeah ! Who's the forum nazi now kara ?
Keep up the same attitude budy and you'll disgrace this forum as well. Pfffttt!!!
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in b4 ****storm/lock :nervous:
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A) Read up on forum history.
B) Do. Not. Flame. Admins.
C) Reported as flaming/trolling.
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(http://static.funnyjunk.com/pictures/triple.jpg)
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The_E, that's clearly IPA in an alt name.
While I have noticed a lot of IPA's little 'jabs', he's probably entitled to a little joke here and there, although he forgot the emoticon this time. Still, no need to keep poking the bear.
Also, in b4 lock.
(http://thenationalevil.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/mega-shark-vs-giant-octopus-560x345.jpg)
Pic unrelated.
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(http://i48.tinypic.com/2z8b7yu.jpg)
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Oh now I see what happened. Dude did you really think they'd ask me me before taking? That's not website policy.
**** it. Banned for a week.
If you don't want to have the same argument over and over again you should stop starting it up all the time.
Yeah ! Who's the forum nazi now kara ?
Keep up the same attitude budy and you'll disgrace this forum as well. Pfffttt!!!
Resorting to alts seems a little juvenile.
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I have no words. But this fine character does! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAOxY_nHdew
btw maia, you forgot some smileys in your troll post. Here, these are on the house. :) :) :)
btwbtw, locked
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ldLBPIdNqI0/SeWuqOJnSZI/AAAAAAAAEDQ/TugCa07_5fQ/s400/P1080450.JPG)
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It's not actually IPA.
Yeah ! Who's the forum nazi now kara ?
Keep up the same attitude budy and you'll disgrace this forum as well. Pfffttt!!!
You waited nearly 4 years to get back at me over a single off-hand comment? :lol:
Well if you want to consider that your revenge and go back to being a sensible forum member again it would be nice to have you back.