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Title: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: richardjevelsonss on February 16, 2010, 09:36:39 am
Hello, I now became a member of this forum here and I would love to be a member of it. Just enjoy the environment here. Good work by the mods and each member here.

I like the quality of messages posted by everyone and expect I can do that for you all too.
I hope  to visit here often.
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Herra Tohtori on February 16, 2010, 09:37:52 am
Welcome, and have a nice long stay! :)
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Snail on February 16, 2010, 09:41:12 am
Hi
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Jeff Vader on February 16, 2010, 09:47:23 am
:wtf:

I smell something. Begins with a "b".
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Snail on February 16, 2010, 09:51:40 am
I'm always fascinated by how people view and interact with what they perceive to be non-human but which obviously displays some form of cognitive thought.


I have no idea what I just said but it did sound cool.
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Herra Tohtori on February 16, 2010, 10:16:59 am
I smell something. Begins with a "b".

He isn't advertising anything that I can see, I could see him viewing the thread for some time after it had appeared, and he appears to have a moderate grasp of the English grammar and vocabulary.

I say give him a benefit of doubt, man. :p
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Nx on February 16, 2010, 10:19:34 am
I smell something. Begins with a "b".

He isn't advertising anything that I can see, I could see him viewing the thread for some time after it had appeared, and he appears to have a moderate grasp of the English grammar and vocabulary.

I say give him a benefit of doubt, man. :p

I've seen these bots on wikis, where it's far more obvious they are bots. Don't know what their purpose is really maybe they're trying to appear real before they start spamming.
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Jeff Vader on February 16, 2010, 10:23:36 am
I say give him a benefit of doubt, man. :p
I am. I was thinking about locking and reporting, but didn't do so. Yet.
It's just that I've seen too many of these "I'm new to this forum. I am interested in game. I hope to learn more from your experiences" things by bots at Game Warden. And regardless of whether he's a bot or not, overly ambiguous threads like these don't really serve any purpose.
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Snail on February 16, 2010, 12:15:49 pm
Furthermore, this guy hasn't even said he's interested in the game. This post is so generic that it could potentially have been posted on practically any public forum on the internet. This arouses my suspicions just a bit.
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Rodo on February 16, 2010, 12:23:36 pm
Hi there richardjevelsonss, and welcome.

You guys why you burn your brains thinking that kind of stuff?, if he/it 's a bot then it will be banned eventually... If not, you are being somewhat rude to a new guy.
And don't come to me with excuses, If I had this kind of response the day I first posted in this forums I would have never come back, being considered a robot is a deal breaker.

Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Aardwolf on February 16, 2010, 12:35:35 pm
@Rodo: it's because the post doesn't seem to show any knowledge of what this forum is about. And in his post, it's entirely possible 'mod' referred to moderators rather than modifications of the game.

Furthermore, the process of spambots getting banned requires that someone notice they're a spambot.
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: The E on February 16, 2010, 12:42:46 pm
Yeah, we can't ban people just because we _think_ they are bots. They need to spam first.
(On the other hand, people can turn into bots in an instant, witness this thread: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=68093.0 ). Being suspicious about this is prudent.
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Rodo on February 16, 2010, 01:07:45 pm
I was just saying, If this thread was the response to my first post... I would definitely never post again around here, just that.

Thinking to yourself someone is a bot =  :yes:
Saying someone is probably/possibly a bot =  :no:

I prefer the "beam the newbie" theme rather than this one if you ask me, at least the other one was funnier.
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Snail on February 16, 2010, 01:28:44 pm
Rodo's got a point.

SORRY RICHARD
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Anti on February 16, 2010, 01:42:33 pm
Google "Hello, I now became a member of this forum here" and you
get plenty of hits in random forums for the exact same sentence.

BOT!

(Note that I am a bot too; just a bit more advanced)
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: jr2 on February 16, 2010, 01:46:59 pm
http://www.google.com/search?&q=Hello,+I+now+became+a+member+of+this+forum+here+and+I+would+love+to+be+a+member+of+it.+Just+enjoy+the+environment+here.+Good+work+by+the+mods+and+each+member+here.I+like+the+quality+of+messages+posted+by+everyone+and+expect+I+can+do+that+for+you+all+too.I+hope+to+visit+here+often.

;)
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: headdie on February 16, 2010, 01:56:12 pm
Hi richardjevelsonss welcome to the forum

as Rodo  says its better to greet the person than what happened here, lets face it the guy got flamed for on his first post which had nothing controversial in it and if it was me I would not be bothered to look on here again.

yes the post was generic but to be honest that is how i tend to start and lets face it it isnt alot of work for a mod to ban them if they do start spamming
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Jeff Vader on February 16, 2010, 02:02:51 pm
lets face it the guy got flamed for on his first post
Not flaming: presenting doubts about his humanity. After seeing n + 2 different (but very similar) variants of that generic first post at Game Warden. Never mind the whole internet. I mean if he's a person, and let's assume that he is because otherwise people seem to get too angry, why would he make his first post so generic? So generic that you can't be sure at all that he even knows about FreeSpace. Everything is possible, but that just is rather unlikely.

lets face it it isnt alot of work for a mod to ban them
It is actually. Moderators are incapable of banning users. Administrators would achieve better results at that.
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Rodo on February 16, 2010, 02:08:58 pm
Spoiler:
Well I hate to contradict myself, so I'll say this with spoilers to feel less hypocrite...

If google says it, then he/it (still room for a little doubt)  must be a bot.

Anyways, I'm a stubborn person so my point stands regardless of your findings  :p
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Snail on February 16, 2010, 02:19:11 pm
He signed up to several dozen at least 1,000 different forums on a huge variety of subjects (from some African society for the protection of endangered parrots to a horse racing firm forum to some timeshare company in Aruba to here at HLP), all between 10am and 4pm today.
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: High Max on February 16, 2010, 02:33:26 pm
Furthermore, this guy hasn't even said he's interested in the game. This post is so generic that it could potentially have been posted on practically any public forum on the internet. This arouses my suspicions just a bit.

Well, you can copy his msn email tag and paste it in facebook, friendster, Hi5, or another social network to see what you can find on this guy. I recently checked Gen B 'Seth Dickinson' by pasting his email into facebook to find a possible profile attached to his email address and now I know what he looks like and that he is from Chicago. I did the same for Trashman and seen what he looks like, all out of curiousity. It is interesting since humans like myself have curiousity and thus it is stimulating to relieve that curiousity.

.....It appears you already found out about him


Edit:


He signed up to several dozen at least 1,000 different forums on a huge variety of subjects (from some African society for the protection of endangered parrots to a horse racing firm forum to some timeshare company in Aruba to here at HLP), all between 10am and 4pm today.

How so many so fast and why?
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Snail on February 16, 2010, 02:42:41 pm
Once he's in, I suspect he will launch a huge campaign of advertising and viagra.
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Retsof on February 16, 2010, 02:54:07 pm
This reminds me of a book I read where AI was born of the constant battle between spambots and anti-bot software.  The bots had to get more human to fool the filters, and the filters had to get more human to tell the difference.  Vicious cycle, AI is born.
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Jeff Vader on February 16, 2010, 02:59:40 pm
How so many so fast and why?
A bot can do a lot real fast. And if it has seriously managed to join a lot of forums in a short while, it might (at first) be the creator's way of saying "**** you" to all the captchas.
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Snail on February 16, 2010, 03:07:56 pm
I also suspect it might be like XGMX - A lot of people masquerading as one person.
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: High Max on February 16, 2010, 03:16:06 pm
I have encountered Yahoo messenger bots in the past. The best thing to do would be not to respond because then the creator or the program itself will know for sure that your yahoo id is real and the spam might increase. As for spam emails like viagra; you can check the ip address in the headers of each email, look it up via this: http://cqcounter.com/whois/ or this: http://samspade.org/ , find the email address of the person in charge of that domain which will be listed in the results of each lookup, and then sent that person in charge of the domain the code (entire body) of the email that was sent, ip address and all, as evidence. I did that to several different spammers and the spam never happens now, so I don't have to worry about blocking domains so much.
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: BloodEagle on February 16, 2010, 04:07:55 pm
This reminds me of a book I read where AI was born of the constant battle between spambots and anti-bot software.  The bots had to get more human to fool the filters, and the filters had to get more human to tell the difference.  Vicious cycle, AI is born.

I'm hoping it wasn't a serious work.
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: iamzack on February 16, 2010, 06:43:57 pm
He did not pass the Turing Test.
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Thaeris on February 16, 2010, 06:52:02 pm
I hate to say this, but...

(http://www.artfund.org/assets/image/artwork/enlarged/1253.jpg)

Use this and get on with it...

 :nervous:

banbanbanbanbanban...
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Herra Tohtori on February 16, 2010, 06:54:04 pm
banbanbanbanbanban...

...Bananaphone? :p
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Thaeris on February 16, 2010, 06:56:03 pm
More like...

Nananananananana...

...Doedoedoedoedoedoe...


 :D
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: NGTM-1R on February 16, 2010, 06:56:43 pm
This is Night to Command, requesting Hammer of Ownage strike ASAP...
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Blue Lion on February 16, 2010, 07:16:25 pm
Maybe his true goal was to let us think he was a bot so we would spam the thread, thereby making US the spammers.

What a nefarious plot!
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Snail on February 16, 2010, 07:17:59 pm
Maybe his true goal was to let us think he was a bot so we would spam the thread, thereby making US the spammers.

What a nefarious plot!
This course of action yielded especially successful results.
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: karajorma on February 16, 2010, 08:11:38 pm
Banned the account but not the IP just in case this is some clueless newbie. I doubt it but why risk it?
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Blue Lion on February 16, 2010, 09:13:57 pm
A clueless, very busy and yet remarkably quiet newbie.
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: karajorma on February 16, 2010, 09:22:41 pm
Given the sheer amazement I've had to the actions of some newbies I wouldn't put googling "welcome thread" and then cutting and pasting the answer on here past some of the legitimate users we've had. :p
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Klaustrophobia on February 16, 2010, 09:27:28 pm
honestly, i wouldn't feel too bad if someone who did that got banned as a result.  just think of it as internet darwinism
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: karajorma on February 16, 2010, 09:35:05 pm
But then you miss your chance to get your righteous indignation on when they wander all over the forums humorously making a twat of themselves. :p
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: TrashMan on February 17, 2010, 01:07:56 am
And I was ready to roll out the Ye Olde HLP Welecome Speeche!
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Bobboau on February 17, 2010, 01:44:54 am
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=c58467f709e0b814af0c45b1a0be69eb&action=profile;u=17061;sa=showPosts
http://www.haitiwebs.com/showthread.php?p=113357#post113357
http://www.straightrazorplace.com/forums/brushes/48869-redwood-lace-burl-custom-brush-smaller-time-2.html#post545279
http://www.datacentertalk.com/wireless-networking-forum/22036-wireless-related-question.html#post32094
http://www.dollwizard.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4636584#post4636584

get the idea yet?

I mean "I like the quality of posts posted by memebers", "Great job by the admin", "like the environment here"
really? you couldn't tell?
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: TrashMan on February 17, 2010, 03:57:45 am
I just like Ye Olde HLP Welecomee Spechee.
Don't judge me!
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Jeff Vader on February 17, 2010, 04:45:49 am
I prefer the "beam the newbie" theme rather than this one if you ask me, at least the other one was funnier.
And I was ready to roll out the Ye Olde HLP Welecome Speeche!
I just like Ye Olde HLP Welecomee Spechee.
Spell check ftw Perhaps there should be should have been a bot for those.
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Fenrir on February 17, 2010, 05:00:26 am
This reminds me of a book I read where AI was born of the constant battle between spambots and anti-bot software.  The bots had to get more human to fool the filters, and the filters had to get more human to tell the difference.  Vicious cycle, AI is born.
This is an amazing concept. XD
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Aardwolf on February 17, 2010, 10:50:18 pm
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=c58467f709e0b814af0c45b1a0be69eb&action=profile;u=17061;sa=showPosts
http://www.haitiwebs.com/showthread.php?p=113357#post113357
http://www.straightrazorplace.com/forums/brushes/48869-redwood-lace-burl-custom-brush-smaller-time-2.html#post545279
http://www.datacentertalk.com/wireless-networking-forum/22036-wireless-related-question.html#post32094
http://www.dollwizard.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4636584#post4636584

get the idea yet?

I mean "I like the quality of posts posted by memebers", "Great job by the admin", "like the environment here"
really? you couldn't tell?

"Like the environment here" was the giveaway.
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Enkidu on February 18, 2010, 03:20:22 am
I just like Ye Olde HLP Welecomee Spechee.
Don't judge me!

I'm new here, and not a bot...at least not last time I checked! I just don't make introduction threads since most forums don't seem to appreciate that sort of thing  :p

You can give me the speech if it'll make ya feel better  ;)
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Colonol Dekker on February 18, 2010, 03:35:51 am
:welcome:
 
Blah blah blah. Intelligent Blue holy water filled plasma rifle, shivan lunch air vent carl etc. . . . . .
 
 
Title: Re: Hi I’m new to this forum
Post by: Jeff Vader on February 18, 2010, 03:36:06 am
You can give me the speech if it'll make ya feel better  ;)
You can read n + 1 variants of the speech here (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=39765.0).