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Title: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on February 27, 2010, 03:25:10 am
That's a big one.  So far only reports of a small tidal wave of 9 feet.  Warnings are up though.
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: watsisname on February 27, 2010, 03:31:21 am
Damn, sure was a big one.  Thankfully it wasn't any closer to a major population center.

6 recorded deaths so far, though I bet that'll go up as it was only an hour ago.
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: TESLA on February 27, 2010, 05:30:28 am
In a weird way, its lucky that Chile is used to this.

Proper building laws and conditions should help prevent mass collapse of structures and save lives. Hopefully.
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Jeff Vader on February 27, 2010, 07:22:28 am
I sure hope my uncle and his family are alright. Communications seem to be down so there's no way of knowing yet.
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Colonol Dekker on February 27, 2010, 10:20:17 am
Easter siland should be evacuated by now.........

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/easterisland/7330898/Chile-earthquake-Easter-Island-evacuation-as-tsunami-brings-disaster-to-Pacific-islands.html

AIEEEEEE!
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on February 27, 2010, 11:48:27 am
Heads up, everyone:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/26/Chile_Quake_Warning_Area_2010.svg/2000px-Chile_Quake_Warning_Area_2010.svg.png)

A red outline indicates a coastline that may be at risk (although I'm not sure if it's too late for something like this). :nervous:
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: SpardaSon21 on February 27, 2010, 11:53:50 am
I think that red line goes a bit too far north.  I haven't heard anything about a tidal wave up here in Southern California.

Of course, if you live in an inland area, then that means you're...
*Puts on glasses
Beyond the red line.
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on February 27, 2010, 11:56:47 am
122 deaths so far...Sure hope this won't become a Haiti-kind catastrophe. It was not a densely populated area, right?

When was the last recorded 8.8 Richter earthquake? Richter 9's have never been recorded, but this one was pretty close...

EDIT: Scratch that, Chile 1960 was 9.5
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Mongoose on February 27, 2010, 01:10:07 pm
122 deaths so far...Sure hope this won't become a Haiti-kind catastrophe. It was not a densely populated area, right?

When was the last recorded 8.8 Richter earthquake? Richter 9's have never been recorded, but this one was pretty close...
It was a relatively densely-populated area, actually, something like 70 miles from one of Chile's largest cities and 200 from its capital.  It definitely caused major damage, and the Chilean government expects the death toll to rise, but not drastically so like we saw in Haiti.  One element that might wind up saving lives is the fact that the quake struck early in the morning, when larger buildings and other structures more prone to catastrophic collapse would have been mostly empty.

And the most powerful recorded earthquake in history was a 9.5, which occurred not too far away from this quake's epicenter.
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: lostllama on February 27, 2010, 02:13:35 pm
Something I found via boingboing.net.

(http://wcatwc.arh.noaa.gov/chile/chileem.jpg)

That really puts it across to me how powerful that quake was.
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Nuke on February 27, 2010, 02:54:27 pm
Heads up, everyone:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/26/Chile_Quake_Warning_Area_2010.svg/2000px-Chile_Quake_Warning_Area_2010.svg.png)

A red outline indicates a coastline that may be at risk (although I'm not sure if it's too late for something like this). :nervous:

better move my computers upstairs
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Rick James on February 27, 2010, 03:56:48 pm
Madre Terra seems to be hating us quite a bit lately.
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: IronBeer on February 27, 2010, 04:15:07 pm
Huh, boy. Hope any areas in the tsunami crosshairs can be evacuated in time...
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Snail on February 27, 2010, 04:23:15 pm
This is serious...
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Nuclear1 on February 27, 2010, 04:48:34 pm
Well...this could've been a lot lot worse.  That said...

Red Cross has committed $50K to relief efforts...once again, donations can do nothing but help in the relief efforts and the tsunami evacuations.  http://www.redcross.org as usual.

Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Rodo on February 27, 2010, 05:06:10 pm
They got hit during the night, must have been horrible to wake up like that.

Well.. at least I know now that my family over there is safe.
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Jeff Vader on February 28, 2010, 02:48:12 am
I just heard that my uncle and his family are alive and well. That's a load off my mind.
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: General Battuta on February 28, 2010, 02:51:54 am
That's good to hear.
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on February 28, 2010, 09:32:22 am
That's good news, Rodo and Jeff. :)
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Enigmatic Entity on March 01, 2010, 12:39:53 am
Here in Tassie many a person went swimming after hearing that there would be a wave - lucky for them it wasn't big by the time it got here...
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on March 01, 2010, 01:39:41 am
Here in Tassie many a person went swimming after hearing that there would be a wave - lucky for them it wasn't big by the time it got here...

Wait ... what?

They went swimming when they heard that a tsunami might be coming their way?
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Kosh on March 01, 2010, 02:33:21 am
So, in 2008 there was the one in China, earlier this year another one in Haiti, now this. I bet the doomsdayers are going to be all over this one.
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on March 01, 2010, 03:22:43 am
They always are. Just ignore them.
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Turambar on March 01, 2010, 11:30:10 am
http://www.rr-bb.com/
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on March 01, 2010, 11:57:21 am
I ... think I've visited that forum before...
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Turambar on March 01, 2010, 12:01:27 pm
they certainly have a particularly potent brand of crazy over there. 
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Grizzly on March 01, 2010, 01:17:10 pm
They always are. Just ignore them.

I know someone once linked to a site full with doomsday predictions, when they were predicted, and when they (were supposed to) occur. Anyone still has that link?

Oh, wait, here it is:http://www.abhota.info/end1.htm
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Liberator on March 02, 2010, 09:46:10 pm
Doomsday "prophets", it doesn't take a genius to notice that there has been a LOT of **** hit the fan lately geologically speaking.  Somethings happening down there, and you're a fool if it doesn't make you at least a little nervous.
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: General Battuta on March 02, 2010, 09:49:39 pm
Doomsday "prophets", it doesn't take a genius to notice that there has been a LOT of **** hit the fan lately geologically speaking.  Somethings happening down there, and you're a fool if it doesn't make you at least a little nervous.

Any evidence?

Got a mean frequency t-test to show us with alpha < .05?

Or is this just another availability heuristic illusion?
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Turambar on March 02, 2010, 09:52:27 pm
maybe we can get a graph of the function of seismograph coverage vs number of recorded earthquakes
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Nuclear1 on March 02, 2010, 10:26:38 pm
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/

Past 7 days worth of earthquakes.

Not saying it's indicative one way or the other, but I'm having difficulty finding past years on the USGS website.

And I've got zero scientific evidence to back this up, but I'm more than happy to settle with "coincidence."

Chile has been home to three of the ten most powerful earthquakes in recorded history, including number one on that list.  I mean, seriously:
://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tectonic_plates_Caribbean.png

See? Chile lies right at the edge of the South American and Nazca plates, Haiti between the Caribbean and North American plates.  Are you surprised there's a few big earthquakes where huge sections of the earth's crust are smashing together?  
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on March 02, 2010, 10:29:38 pm
I'm not. Japan's also near the Pacific Ring of Fire, and they get small earthquakes all the time.
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Kosh on March 02, 2010, 10:52:29 pm
Doomsday "prophets", it doesn't take a genius to notice that there has been a LOT of **** hit the fan lately geologically speaking.  Somethings happening down there, and you're a fool if it doesn't make you at least a little nervous.


Big earthquakes seem to come in waves. In '94 we had the northridge quake, '95 was the Kobe earthquake, then in '99 there was the Taiwan quake. Then nothing huge for several years. Now it is repeating.

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Doomsday "prophets", it doesn't take a genius to notice that there has been a LOT of **** hit the fan lately geologically speaking.  Somethings happening down there, and you're a fool if it doesn't make you at least a little nervous.

We're not fools, we're the educated elite that dont believe in superstitious nonsense. Do you seriously think the end of the world is "soon"?
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Nuclear1 on March 02, 2010, 10:59:39 pm
Seriously, the world isn't coming to an end.  A few quakes (albeit a few powerful ones) aren't signs of the end, any more than a few powerful hurricanes and pandemics. 
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Dark RevenantX on March 02, 2010, 11:06:01 pm
The end of the human world might be coming to an end, but the Earth is staying right here.  As in, existing with life going on while orbiting around the sun.
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on March 02, 2010, 11:42:28 pm
The human world might be coming to an end, but the Earth is staying right here.  As in, existing with life going on while orbiting around the sun.

Fixed?
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: watsisname on March 03, 2010, 01:04:34 am
The end of the human world might be coming to an end, but the Earth is staying right here.  As in, existing with life going on while orbiting around the sun.

Really?  I thought CERN was supposed to fix that problem.
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Liberator on March 03, 2010, 05:11:10 am
If we're so scientifically advanced and knowledgeable, where is the detailed map of the Earth's interior?  I mean if i wanted to see what's 5 miles beneath my feet in graphic, obsessive detail where would I go to obtain this information?

The truth of the matter is, we're not as knowledgeable as some of us pretend to be.  The problem isn't that "superstitions" are necessarily out dated, it's that scientists are having they're instincts and gut feelings educated right out of them.  Just because you can quantify, correlate and qualify an event or series of events doesn't discount the possibility of them being factual or related, you simply lack the scale of perspective to see it.
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Nuclear1 on March 03, 2010, 08:29:28 am
If we're so scientifically advanced and knowledgeable, where is the detailed map of the Earth's interior?  I mean if i wanted to see what's 5 miles beneath my feet in graphic, obsessive detail where would I go to obtain this information?

Because funding for scientific research often gets "reappropriated" to the F-35.

Because the USGS gets a grand total of $1.1 billion a year, none of which is even dedicated to studying tectonics.

Because everyone's more interested in being an astronomer than a geologist.[/quote]
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"superstitions" are necessarily out dated
Yeah, they are.  The reason we have people in the scientific fields in our society is so they can find explanations to the things superstitious nonsense used to attribute to a guy hurling lightning bolts.  If we had a country run by people who thought The Day After Tomorrow, 2012, and Revelations were pure scientific fact...

People will attach themselves to any doomsday scenario they can imagine.  How many times in the past fifty years have groups said the world was coming to an end?  First it was nuclear holocaust, then global epidemic, then natural disasters of the last few years...even sharks taking over the world.
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: NGTM-1R on March 03, 2010, 08:34:45 am
even sharks taking over the world.

Hey, the only reason the sharks haven't taken over the world is because they're too well-adapted to their own environment to bother trying.
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Nuclear1 on March 03, 2010, 08:38:50 am
(http://www.themadhat.com/images/flying-sharks.jpg)
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on March 03, 2010, 09:33:35 am
:lol:

I thought it was more because they're endangered.
Title: Re: Mag 8.8 quake in Chile
Post by: Enigmatic Entity on March 05, 2010, 12:47:30 am
Here in Tassie many a person went swimming after hearing that there would be a wave - lucky for them it wasn't big by the time it got here...

Wait ... what?

They went swimming when they heard that a tsunami might be coming their way?

I think they reckoned they could have surfed on it or something...

As for flying sharks, it would suck to be them if they so much as bumped a building/tree, as they are allergic to punches.