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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: Black Wolf on June 02, 2011, 07:46:23 pm
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I was just thinking, (and wiki browsing while waiting for a taxi)... everyone seems to agree that Terrans dominate the modding scene. And this is true - the numbers stack up vastly in favour of Terran ships. People also tend to say that everyone wants to make a destroyer, or juggernaut or whatever. I've said this myself, in the past. But, really... where are they all?
Seriously... Look at the Terran destroyers on the wiki. With the exception of BPs Strattcomm ships, there really are very few modern (i.e. HTL), high quality post capella destroyers. Lots of retail ones, lots of dubious quality ones, one or two acceptable ones (Henderson springs to mind) and a few truly brilliant, but non freespacey ones (Esarai's Emperor being the most obvious).
So, I'm left to assume that all these destroyers are sitting in the modpacks of campaigns, unreleased. I have no problem with that, of course, but I just can't think of/picture them in my head. So, can anyone throw up some pics or DL links for high quality, HTL, Terran post-capella destroyers? I'm not planning on using them for anything, so it doesn't matter if they're unreleased - I'm honestly just curious.
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I'm all for this. I could use some new releases to good ships. I'm also rather limited by the selection of Shivan ships especially, but any good looking new ship for any race would be greatly welcomed.
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GTD Capella comes to mind, but that user was run off before it was done. :doubt:
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GTD Capella comes to mind, but that user was run off before it was done. :doubt:
He ran himself off, more or less.
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GTD Capella comes to mind, but that user was run off before it was done. :doubt:
I have that on my hard drive but even in PCS2 that one has my system begging for mercy, I know a few other more experienced community members were working on it so might be worth doing a forum search to see if any others got close to taming it. I hope they did because it is a beautiful model.
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Shadow Genesis/Inferno has like three-four for GTVA (Icelus, Boreas, Anchorage, Lenaeus, etc), and like four for EA (Tereus, Lindos, Auriga, Basileus).
Which is like eight.
There's also the Sirona, and Stratcomms terran destroyers as released, like you mentioned (which is already more than all the Vasudan and Shivan ones that exist put together, mind you)
There's also the Zagreus...and probably half a billion others I can't think of right now.
The Shivans in Inferno are not HTL, so there's a grand total of ONE Shivan destroyer that is high poly (the ASW HTL Vassago), and like two Vasudan ones (Stratcomm's)...
There aren't any that are like modern-modern like the Cain/Lilith/Sath/Hattie...
Wait, the Terrans have one of those too, the Solaris
So yeah, **** terran destroyers.
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I thought the Sirona was on a similar release period as the Reyena.
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Yes but it is a fairly high poly mesh, as is the reyena.
Definitely not retail.
They're as "HTL" as the Sobek and Deimos. (except for their ****ass turrets)
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going back to the GTD Capella
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=70408.msg1391528#msg1391528
though re-reading the thread it looks like no one has done any serious work, well not that was reported back anyway
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No one ever wants to UVmap/texture anything.
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post-Capella?
Wouldn't the Titan count? And the Raynor? And the Orion Mk2? And whatsitsname....
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post-Capella?
Wouldn't the Titan count? And the Raynor? And the Orion Mk2? And whatsitsname....
Black Wolf's op stated that he wants to avoid stratcom ( Titan & Raynor ) but the Orion mkII is an idea
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post-Capella?
Wouldn't the Titan count? And the Raynor? And the Orion Mk2? And whatsitsname....
Re-read the OP. He said models not made by Stratcom. The Raynor and Titan were both made by him.
EDIT: ninja' by headdie :(
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GTD Capella comes to mind, but that user was run off before it was done. :doubt:
Yeah, no. He pretty much ran off like little babies when people gave him any sort of criticism, be it constructive or not, on his ships (which also resulted in him deleting his ships too)
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As if there's a difference. :blah:
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Throwing up some pics for Black Wolf
(http://blueplanet.hard-light.net/daegon.jpg)
GTD Daegon (Esarai)
(http://blueplanet.hard-light.net/galaxy.jpg)
Galaxy Carrier (Trashman)
(http://blueplanet.hard-light.net/soccarrier.jpg)
SOC Carrier (Aldo)
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As if there's a difference. :blah:
There is. Leaving because people were just flat out assholes is one thing, but leaving (and deleting his models) when people tried giving him constructive criticism is a whole different matter.
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I'm not sure if the Vexor would be a good GTVA ship considering the sheer difference in design, and given it was originally planned to be used as the Solaris but eventually dropped for being a nightmare to fix, it would probably discourage further use.
Other than that the Wiki mostly has Inferno / Alliance ships and Strattcomm's ships.
As if there's a difference. :blah:
There is. Leaving because people were just flat out assholes is one thing, but leaving (and deleting his models) when people tried giving him constructive criticism is a whole different matter.
Regardless he still left.
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though re-reading the thread it looks like no one has done any serious work, well not that was reported back anyway
Right...not being worked on... :nervous:
INFTeam
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Are you going to release it publicly?
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though re-reading the thread it looks like no one has done any serious work, well not that was reported back anyway
Right...not being worked on... :nervous:
INFTeam
Highlighted the important part of the quote ;)
If you guys are then that is awesome
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*snip*
Galaxy Carrier (Trashman)
As far as i remember that thing is bugged like hell. Several fighterbay subsystems aren't even done + some other minor issues :(
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Yeah, that's to be expected.
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*snip*
Galaxy Carrier (Trashman)
As far as i remember that thing is bugged like hell. Several fighterbay subsystems aren't even done + some other minor issues :(
That takes all of five minutes too fix, and is not "bugged like hell".
All of the errors on TrashMan models are basically (aside from the ungh overtiling) True**** created, or just lazy pof work.
A clean reconvert (just killing all smoothing, which works fine for all the SPACEBRIX), and a bit of PCS2 work adding back in paths and special points and you're done.
A n00b could do that.
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Hm, I'm unable to find that Daegon model...
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Then you fail at looking http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/GTD_Daegon
direct link
http://www.freespacemods.net/download.php?view.459
lern2wiki
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Wooot?
(http://blueplanet.hard-light.net/daegon.jpg)
Looks not like the model your link is containing...
And I browsed every user made ship with a GTD tag...
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I'm fairly certain the maps are the same, the Daegon shown on the Wiki is at a different angle and looks longer, but they're both the GTD Daegon. Were you looking under user-made ships in the Large Capital Ships section? Keep in mind they're not alphabetically arranged.
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You're right Zane, thank you.
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People should just trust me because I generally verify all my claims before I make them :doubt:
I've messed with the Daegon enough to know that those are indeed the same.
Did you even open the model up in PCS2 and take a look? :doubt:
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well ive got lightwave, so if u can tell me how to convert models to pof and do the turrets etc Id be making new ones and fixing old ones fast, so Droid link me to a how to to to lw and from lw to pof etc and itll be done :)
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PSC2 can open DAE files, which I presume Lightwave can export/import (it should, starting version 9.5 something, according to Collada website)
I've never used Lightwave so I donno the specifics, but if you just save an existing POF as DAE via PCS2 (take like uh, the MediaVPs Cain), and look at it in Lightwave, it should show you how it's set up. Honestly, I don't know anyone else who uses LightWave, seems to be a minority here.
Assuming the importer and exporter don't **** stuff up like 3Ds Max's sometimes does. (Which is why I don't set up POF data in Max, just hierarchy and pivots).
Plenty of people can help you with setting stuff up in Blender though (and I can run through what I do to go from max->pof, as well as a few other people).
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well if lightwave opens dae without issues ill be fine, I use it coz I did a film course and lightwave is prefered for CGI work, plus I find it the best interface etc :)
thanks mate
EDIT: PCS2 only has cob, perhaps I got the wrong version?
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Check Spicious and a few others's sig for the latest version of PCS2.
A bad Terran Destroyer/Battleship would be the GTBs Moscow. It's an overstretched and badly mapped version of the Cumulative Modeling project's Moscow.
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I found it on FS mods.net, thanks for the info :)
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Galaxy Carrier (Trashman)
As far as i remember that thing is bugged like hell. Several fighterbay subsystems aren't even done + some other minor issues :(
It's bugged?
Works fine for me. What version did you try?
And nah, the fighterbays are done, just the doors aren't animated...so they are always open.
Altough, now that you mention it... I could give it a workover...maybe.
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Galaxy Carrier (Trashman)
As far as i remember that thing is bugged like hell. Several fighterbay subsystems aren't even done + some other minor issues :(
It's bugged?
Works fine for me. What version did you try?
And nah, the fighterbays are done, just the doors aren't animated...so they are always open.
Altough, now that you mention it... I could give it a workover...maybe.
Trufax, it's been a looong time. (How have you been? :lol: ) I think it could have been three years even, but i used what was on FSmods, so don't blame me :P
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I have made some Vasudan ships recently, but they are just meshes and due to my workload in Real life, I cant spend the time I want too. Also, I never got past designing then such as UV Mapping as I have been told my designs need to be smoothed and lowered poly count. My Vasudan Cruiser is one example and my Advance Vasudan Interceptor needs it as well. If anyone wants to work these models let me know.
Vasudan Advance Interceptor
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Onyxwing2004USA/FreeSpace2/VasudanAdvancedInterceptor3.png)
Advance Vasudan Cruiser
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Onyxwing2004USA/FreeSpace2/VasudanLightCruiser15.png)
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@Jadehawk:
Can I have another pic from anoter angle of your Cruiser?
This is very close to a battleship I've drawed over the last weeks, but was unable to get it modeled.
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Sure, here are some more shots. Hope these help. :yes:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Onyxwing2004USA/FreeSpace2/VasudanLightCruiser24.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Onyxwing2004USA/FreeSpace2/VasudanLightCruiser23.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Onyxwing2004USA/FreeSpace2/VasudanLightCruiser22.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Onyxwing2004USA/FreeSpace2/VasudanLightCruiser17.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Onyxwing2004USA/FreeSpace2/VasudanLightCruiser16.png)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Onyxwing2004USA/FreeSpace2/VasudanLightCruiser15.png)
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Well, that one really does look Vasudan, nice job there. :yes: