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Title: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: S-99 on November 09, 2011, 09:35:04 pm
Found here (http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/08/3254386/northland-gamer-thwarts-gunmans.html#disqus_thread).

Quote from: the article
Court records gave this account:

Morales went to the store shortly after midnight to buy the game but became discouraged by the long line of customers. He then considered “taking it from somebody so that he could get it for free.”

That’s when Morales spotted Adam Freeman leaving the store with his reserved copy of the game. Morales allegedly followed Freeman to his apartment in the 2000 block of N.W. 68th Terrace. When Freeman pulled into a parking lot stall, Morales allegedly parked his red Ford Explorer behind him, blocking him in.

Freeman stepped out of his car when a young man wearing a hood approached and “racked a round” in his gun.

“Give me the game!” the gunman ordered.

“(Expletive) you!” Freeman replied.

The gunman racked another round, causing the first round to eject and fall on the ground. Freeman grabbed the gun’s barrel and pushed it back toward the gunman. The pair struggled briefly before the gunman climbed back into his vehicle and sped away.

Freeman ran to his apartment and called 911.

ROFL
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: Beskargam on November 09, 2011, 09:57:44 pm
I dont know whats more sad. that the victim was almost robbed for his copy of MW3 or that the victim fought him off for the copy. . .
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: redsniper on November 09, 2011, 10:05:19 pm
Or that the guy racked the gun twice for some reason... O_o
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: Nuke on November 09, 2011, 10:21:04 pm
when the fight or flight response kicks in its kinda hard to actually stop and think. if you read the article he says that. but im rather impressed that he was able to fight off a robber, who had him outgunned and still manage to come out of it alive. as an added bonus the ****tard leaves a round (which likely has his prints on it) at the scene. he obviously showed ignorance of firearms and his supposed victim capitalized on it. ****tard goes to jail and victim keeps his life, property, and dignity.
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: Qent on November 09, 2011, 10:28:37 pm
Or that the guy racked the gun twice for some reason... O_o
It works in movies!
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: S-99 on November 10, 2011, 01:22:07 am
The robber was in it for robbery through intimidation. Chambering a round  once didn't intimidate, chambering a round the second time made robber look like dumbass. The guy being robbed just happened act accordingly; he may have known deep inside the robber was just about flashing a gun and nothing else. Even if not, he still acted accordingly getting the gun out of his face, and that's cool.

But, there is still that moment of being unsure when you have a gun or knife in your face.
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: Dilmah G on November 10, 2011, 03:25:03 am
I thought people like this were the kind of trash that natural selection took care of back in the stone age?
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: Grizzly on November 10, 2011, 05:41:45 am
I thought people like this were the kind of trash that natural selection took care of back in the stone age?

That's big goverment for you :P.
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: The E on November 10, 2011, 07:11:42 am
I thought people like this were the kind of trash that natural selection took care of back in the stone age?

What, people who play Modern Warfare? :P
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: Dilmah G on November 10, 2011, 07:38:44 am
Good call, you bastard! :P

/me quietly pretends grabbing MW:3 for some mind numbing post finals exam mush wasn't his primary objective for next week.
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: Polpolion on November 10, 2011, 07:47:04 am
Quote
The gunman racked another round, causing the first round to eject and fall on the ground.

lulz
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: S-99 on November 10, 2011, 07:58:33 am
/me quietly pretends grabbing MW:3 for some mind numbing post finals exam mush wasn't his primary objective for next week.
Tell me you didn't get the game for free with "third time's the charm" chambering rounds on someone.
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: JCDNWarrior on November 10, 2011, 08:02:36 am
Let's look it another way, Call of Duty and movies have saved Mr. Freeman's life for giving the wrong interpretation of gun handling ;)
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: StarSlayer on November 10, 2011, 08:03:21 am
The robber was in it for robbery through intimidation. Chambering a round  once didn't intimidate, chambering a round the second time made robber look like dumbass. The guy being robbed just happened act accordingly; he may have known deep inside the robber was just about flashing a gun and nothing else. Even if not, he still acted accordingly getting the gun out of his face, and that's cool.

But, there is still that moment of being unsure when you have a gun or knife in your face.

Yeah but it would have been safer to let him keep racking rounds till he emptied the magazine :P
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: S-99 on November 10, 2011, 08:44:42 am
I agree. Honestly the only time i've seen people eject a round after they've already chambered one are the noobs who are getting familiar with their fire arm's operation at home (while of course not firing the thing).
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: Nuke on November 10, 2011, 05:26:03 pm
when i see mw# i still think of the mechwarrior series. sorry, im old skool :D
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: Mongoose on November 10, 2011, 06:04:42 pm
I wonder if he tried to look down the sights, thinking that it'd magically make him better. :p

(man I hate that mechanic)
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: Commander Zane on November 10, 2011, 06:38:42 pm
Well would you be more likely to hit the center mass of a paper target firing any weapon from the hip, or actually looking through its sights? :P
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: Nuke on November 10, 2011, 08:12:23 pm
anyone know what kind of weapon he was using? i get the impression it was a bolt action rifle or a shotgun but the article was kind of vague about this. attacking with a rifle at close range is a very stupid way to engage a target. seems he didnt place himself far enough back to have effective control of the weapon. and the ****ing around with the bolt would make an inexperienced person drop his aim. i had a hard enough time with that in my last batch of hunting exploits. last year i took out a buck near point blank, so it was a one shot deal, but all the bucks ive seen this yer were at range. the time it takes to chamber a new round and find your target is not as fast as you might think, and it cost me a kill. at close range this is less of an issue though, but stilla bolt action rifle tou need to use your trigger hand to jack a round in, meaning your taking your finger off the trigger, and if your gun isnt well maintained you might have trouble chamberlain a new round and could take a second or two. you give your victim a window in which to act, and combined with the short range, he needs less to take control of the weapon. now a handgun or a pump action shotgun can chamber a round with the left hand and no loss of target is required. then of course on top of that a lot of people hesitate the first time they need shoot to kill something.
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: Mars on November 10, 2011, 08:17:13 pm
It sounds like a double/single-action semi-auto pistol to me.
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: deathfun on November 11, 2011, 04:26:44 pm
Protip for the robber: Attach water bottle to front, fire first shot at persons leg
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: S-99 on November 11, 2011, 07:36:40 pm
Maybe he was looking for skill achievement with the pistol.
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: Nuke on November 11, 2011, 08:14:46 pm
you cannot get achievements if you are too busy getting raped in prison to play video games.
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: S-99 on November 12, 2011, 02:00:03 am
I digress. The robbers failure of relation of video games to real life looking for a skill achievement earlier, will continue on in prison.
Hey, he's got to have something to cheer himself up while receiving the butt ****ing of a life time.
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: deathfun on November 12, 2011, 03:01:52 pm
I digress. The robbers failure of relation of video games to real life looking for a skill achievement earlier, will continue on in prison.
Hey, he's got to have something to cheer himself up while receiving the butt ****ing of a life time.

That's not digressing, that's disagreeing.
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: S-99 on November 12, 2011, 06:58:09 pm
You're right. I should have used disagree.
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: Polpolion on November 12, 2011, 08:40:12 pm
I disagree.
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: Dragon on November 13, 2011, 03:29:03 am
Somebody should let Darwin know about it. What was that guy thinking? Going for a "Dramatic Gun Cock"? Not to mention robbing somebody for a game. Twice. And that wasn't even a limited edition, just a regular edition of a rather average (and completely unrealistic) game. Not to mention MW3 is on Steam and most likely in dozen online stores. He could just get it from there, without waiting in line. In short, Idiot with a capital I.  :)
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: Nuke on November 13, 2011, 03:31:40 am
if we would just shoot impale these people then evolution would be served
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: deathfun on November 13, 2011, 05:13:32 am
I say we go French Revolution on them
Bring out the guillotine and paper towels. This is going to get bloody
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: Nuke on November 13, 2011, 06:12:22 am
too quick. impalement, if done right, could take days to kill its victim.
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: The E on November 13, 2011, 06:16:22 am
Somebody should let Darwin know about it. What was that guy thinking? Going for a "Dramatic Gun Cock"? Not to mention robbing somebody for a game. Twice. And that wasn't even a limited edition, just a regular edition of a rather average (and completely unrealistic) game. Not to mention MW3 is on Steam and most likely in dozen online stores. He could just get it from there, without waiting in line. In short, Idiot with a capital I.  :)

Yes, but that would involve paying money...
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: Grizzly on November 13, 2011, 07:04:51 am
If you can afford a weapon, you should be able to afford MW3...
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: Mikes on November 13, 2011, 09:59:05 am
Might be worth a honorary mention (for trying) on the Darwin Award site... ;)
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: deathfun on November 13, 2011, 04:43:44 pm
too quick. impalement, if done right, could take days to kill its victim.

Well, if you want length, you'd have to go with the tying them to a post and leaving them to the elements. It'll take as long as they can survive without water and food
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 13, 2011, 05:49:30 pm
Well, if you want length, you'd have to go with the tying them to a post and leaving them to the elements. It'll take as long as they can survive without water and food

Forgetting hypothermia.
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: deathfun on November 13, 2011, 08:37:56 pm
Well, if you want length, you'd have to go with the tying them to a post and leaving them to the elements. It'll take as long as they can survive without water and food

Forgetting hypothermia.

Set up a nice fire nearby... or heatlamps
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: Polpolion on November 13, 2011, 08:48:16 pm
Well, if you want length, you'd have to go with the tying them to a post and leaving them to the elements. It'll take as long as they can survive without water and food

Forgetting hypothermia.

Set up a nice fire nearby... or heatlamps

If you want length you'll let them live the rest of their life.  :P
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: deathfun on November 13, 2011, 10:49:13 pm
Well, if you want length, you'd have to go with the tying them to a post and leaving them to the elements. It'll take as long as they can survive without water and food

Forgetting hypothermia.

Set up a nice fire nearby... or heatlamps

If you want length you'll let them live the rest of their life.  :P

Touche
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: Nuke on November 14, 2011, 09:01:29 am
NO! youre doing it wrong. apply pain theory:

torture effectiveness = time * suffering^2

the pain is more significant than the time allotted to experience it. granted some forms of torture-murder significantly shorten the effective time of the torture part of the punishment and this should usually be avoided. but one should not underestimate the psychological torture imposed by inflicting mortal damage and then allowing the victim time to contemplate their situation. vlad the impaler took steps to perfect his technique so as to have the victims remain alive for as long as possible. for example, blunting and greasing the steak so as not to damage organs, using a wider steak so as to restrict blood loss, and imposing the threat of impalement on your executioners should they do it wrong and let the victim die to early. if you compare that to something like getting put in the stocks till you die of exposure, starvation, or consumption by wild animals, the pain is limited to discomfort and eventually becomes hardly noticeable, and the onset of death is quick and/or unexpected. it also invites the option of escape, since there is no mortal damage to

should also point out that torture-murder if used as a form of execution must prioritize execution. executions need to be cost effective. i mean you could come up with a really elaborate torture system involving medical technology to keep the victim alive for months before they die, while simultaneously providing constant, severe pain. for example directly torturing dense nerve clusters, like those in the genitals. you could use sleep deprivation drugs to keep the victim awake and conscious and apply psychological torture techniques to compound against the physical ones. but at some point this gets expensive. which is bad if you need to do this to a lot of people.

thats why i like impalement, its cheap, slow, painful, humiliating, almost impossible to survive it, it serves as a warning to others and is a good way to decorate a landscape, providing a form of public works.
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: Enzo03 on November 14, 2011, 01:14:59 pm
I can always count on Nuke to make my day.
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Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: deathfun on November 14, 2011, 03:19:53 pm
If you want psychological torture, you restrain them in a room where a single drop of water constantly falls on their head for eternity
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: Scourge of Ages on November 14, 2011, 04:26:02 pm
Or stick a pendulum in there somewhere too.
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: deathfun on November 14, 2011, 04:48:26 pm
Tie him down to a bed, having a swinging pendulum slowly come down towards him, with a water drip drip dripping away with him already impaled

Huzzah
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: S-99 on November 15, 2011, 09:24:00 am
I disagree.
I disagree.
Title: Re: MW3 dumbass with a real gun
Post by: The E on November 15, 2011, 09:30:29 am
I disagree.
I disagree.

I lock.