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http://store.steampowered.com/app/9900/
Should I download it?
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It is free and a good time-waster with fairly standard ground combat and fun space battles. You really don't have much to lose except time, bandwidth, and drive space. Hades, Ravenholme, and I are already playing it and Ravenholme and I have talked about starting an HLP Fleet for the Federation.
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*watches trailer* Oh I have got to try this. Too bad my pathetic internet will probably complicate things.
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Which server are you all on, if there are multiple servers? I've been considering giving this a spin, but haven't had any motivation to, yet.
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As far as I can tell there's only one server.
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Lots of people that are sick of BSGO moved to STO from what I've heard. Must be better than the latter.
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I've started playing and it's good clean fun.
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Alessia accidentally much of the EVE crew I played with into this game when it went F2P. (Or was it somebody else from that? I don't know.)
It's actually quite fun, and actually very good as a Star Trek game. If you're transitioning from EVE, though, be aware this game isn't ready for EVE market tactics. (So use them quick.)
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Speaking of EVE, this has all the parts of EVE that I liked and almost none of that I didn't. Also, looking forward to "The 2800".
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Anyone that plays set-savvy? I know what the visual effects of the Aegis set and Borg technology are, but I have little clue as to what M.A.C.O., Omega Force, and Honor Guard do.
Again, visual differences; I've read the stats on the Wiki, and only the Aegis and Borg sets have any screenshots, which matter little as they're the only two sets I ever see with the exception of someone with what I think is the Omega Force deflector.
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Been playing since it became F2P. Goddamn, maybe it's just because I'm a massive Trek geek, but this game is way too fun for what's really on offer. In all honesty, the ground combat is still rather dull, but the space combat is awesome. It's like they took everything that was good about Star Trek Fleet Commander III, and added a third dimension.
Plus, the questing is bloody brilliant. Each mission is parceled into a tight little 30-40 minute adventure that generally feels like you're playing through an actual Star Trek episode. Some are far grander than others, but I'm actually really damn impressed at the quality of what they're producing. I, too, can't wait for the 2800 to further expand on what's there. I had literally just watched "Sacrifice of Angels" a few hours before first seeing the trailer for 2800 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMoEp-vKQe4), so I got it pretty much immediately. Not only does it look like fun, but from a Trek lore point of view, it's ****ing brilliant.
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Another MMO... now free to play... always sounds to me like "another disease, now free to contract" ;)
lol.
Is this really any different?
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Compared to the average F2P offering or conversion, cryptic/PWI are basically giving the ENTIRE game for free with only a few caveats and cryptic points are ludicrously easy to get in really small amounts if you want some particular item but dont' want to spend 20 bucks on a game card or something.
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Anyone that plays set-savvy? I know what the visual effects of the Aegis set and Borg technology are, but I have little clue as to what M.A.C.O., Omega Force, and Honor Guard do.
Again, visual differences; I've read the stats on the Wiki, and only the Aegis and Borg sets have any screenshots, which matter little as they're the only two sets I ever see with the exception of someone with what I think is the Omega Force deflector.
I've never seen somebody with a complete M.A.C.O. set, but I've seen Honor Guard ones; they're essentially optimized for carrier ships like the Orion flight-deck cruiser payships or Vo'Quvs. The M.A.C.O. shield is apparently to die for if you drive an Escort, so I'll ask a friend who has a Prommie and let you know.
Is this really any different?
This is a stupid statement and you should be flogged for it. You have a crapload of single-player content here if you just grind out the episodes, easily about a week's worth of playtime. Tack on another two weeks of running the patrol missions, and endless more if you want to do the explorations and diplomatics. As Mefustae says, the episodes and to some extent the patrols are really the best approximation of playing through an actual Star Trek series you'll ever experience.
Even then, only a small number of the pay options offer tangible gameplay benefits. A vast majority are vanity items; one of the variety of uniforms from the five and half million variations Trek has gone through, different bridges to stand around and be social in, different ship bits to dress your ship up with (did we mention you can customize the look of character, ship, away team/bridge crew?). The pay alternate ships are essentially like premium stuff from World of Tanks, nice, but not actually that much better and outclassed by regular stuff of higher tier. You don't see them much.
In fact I dare say the only ultra-useful paystuff available is the Multivector version of the Prommie, and you don't see those much. (One incredibly powerful gunship into three slightly less incredibly powerful gunships.) Klink types do seem to like their pay Kar'Fi carriers but I don't see them in action to tell if they're better than a Vo'Quv.
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Anyone that plays set-savvy? I know what the visual effects of the Aegis set and Borg technology are, but I have little clue as to what M.A.C.O., Omega Force, and Honor Guard do.
Again, visual differences; I've read the stats on the Wiki, and only the Aegis and Borg sets have any screenshots, which matter little as they're the only two sets I ever see with the exception of someone with what I think is the Omega Force deflector.
I've never seen somebody with a complete M.A.C.O. set, but I've seen Honor Guard ones; they're essentially optimized for carrier ships like the Orion flight-deck cruiser payships or Vo'Quvs. The M.A.C.O. shield is apparently to die for if you drive an Escort, so I'll ask a friend who has a Prommie and let you know.
If they're meant for Escorts I might be out of luck flying a Nomad Starcruiser.
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Just finished the Tut, pretty fun, but annoying that you can't just hold the "shoot" button.
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If they're meant for Escorts I might be out of luck flying a Nomad Starcruiser.
Pretty much everyone (except my friend apparently) recommends going for the maximum shield cap over everything else, and the MACO shield is apparently like Covariant Cap[x3] and some other stuff, putting it one better in capacity than the Aegis set's shield and that's one better than the Paratrinic which is one better than the Reman prototype.
Or this is what they tell me. I just started building myself an Aegis set since good MACO gear seems to be hard to come by and I'm trying to get together enough Antiproton beams to outfit my Soverign already.
Just finished the Tut, pretty fun, but annoying that you can't just hold the "shoot" button.
Right click on a weapons bank and it will autofire once given the first shoot command for a target.
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Right click on a weapons bank and it will autofire once given the first shoot command for a target.
Thanks, that'll come in handy.
I'm a little disappointed that you can't walk around your ship and talk to people. Though I admit part of the reason for this is that, upon meeting my Tactical Officer, my mind did something like this " :nervous: :drevil: ;7"
Of course, being the Tactical Officer, it probably would have ended like this: :snipe:. Or this: :beamz:. Or possibly even this: :headz:
:P
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Well, I just started yesterday, and I'm still sort of in the tutorial. The servers went down half-an-hour in.
Name's Scourge (Scourge@scourgeofages), ship is the Kelpie.
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I'm a little disappointed that you can't walk around your ship and talk to people. Though I admit part of the reason for this is that, upon meeting my Tactical Officer, my mind did something like this " :nervous: :drevil: ;7"
You can walk around your ship. But not talk to people. (It doesn't change much aside from the bridge and general layout, which is sad, but I suspect it's onthelistTM.)
Anybody looking for me it's James S@ngtm1r. Can't promise to hook you up with cool gear, though, because all my gear-crafting goes through somebody from the EVE crew. :P
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Is this really any different?
This is a stupid statement and you should be flogged for it. [... snip...]
You know... that's such a typical response for someone on honeymoon with "their new MMO" ;)
I'll be most eager to hear what you say, once you are done with the game.
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So has someone made an HLP team yet? ("note that I am noobtastic and don't know how to join anyway :P)
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Is this really any different?
This is a stupid statement and you should be flogged for it. [... snip...]
You know... that's such a typical response for someone on honeymoon with "their new MMO" ;)
I'll be most eager to hear what you say, once you are done with the game.
Can't we say that about any game? This elitist attitude is annoying.
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Indeed, it's what it is, leave it at that and leave the elitist bull**** at the door.
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Indeed, it's what it is, leave it at that and leave the elitist bull**** at the door.
You are mistaking "jaded about companies that make inherently exploitive games" as being elitist? ;)
The typical MMO uses a somewhat entertaining early game to establish a behavior/reward pattern that is later exploited get away with more and more repetition/grind the further you go in the game.
The question whether this is "any different" was asked in all seriousness.
The MMO market is rather stale these days... and developers deviating from the norm are a rare rare breed.
Can't we say that about any game?
Not at all, as most "games" in general are designed to entertain, while most "MMOs" are designed to exploit it's players.
In the most simple terms you have games that compete with "fun" gameplay and content... and you have games that compete with "compulsion".
With very very few exceptions... MMO's always use operant conditioning to induce behavior patterns that drastically increase playtime, while the quality and variety of the offered gameplay and content takes more and more of a nosedive the longer you play.
You will find that the methods used in typical MMO are quite controversial in game designer circles, so I am far from alone with that assessment.
Oh and... for me, it's not really about the monetary cost ... but rather about the opportunity cost of all that freetime spent on mundane repetition when you play those games.
I'm missing out on way too many actual good games, books and movies as it is... so my patience with games that use grind/repetition of simplistic tasks for content gating to artificially increase playtime is rather low ;)
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Oooohhhhhkay...then we won't go into the exploitiveness of how most of the giant games from the last 5 years or so are as shallow and vapid as the sterotypical valley girl and who's sole purpose has been to look pretty on a TV spot and in a magazine and then have an average lifespan about 10 days. Seriously, I used to play WoW with this guy who was waiting for Modern Warfare 3 to come to the point that he would go on and on about it in vent, then he got it, said how awesome it was, disappeared for about 10 days and then was back on WoW at odd times because he was finished with MW3 and had blown his sleep schedule playing it so much.
MMOs, I'm speaking broadly about Western style ones here not those ridiculous Korean grindfests, are generally as much about being social as they are doing the quests and killing bosses. You generally get back what you put into them.
As we've said, this game does just about everything it can to make the player feel like a Starfleet Captain in the vein of Kirk and the style of Picard, Sisko and Janeway. It does this and then attempts to also create a community around the activities that the players partake in. Does it do this well? YMMV. Much like a lot of large scale MMOs, their reach exceeded their grasp a bit. The Klingon side, from what I'm told, is generally incomplete and not very fulfilling. But then I don't play it to be a Klingon Captain. And I suspect most other people don't either.
All that said, some of the best missions I've played are from the Foundry. Most have been suitably "trek"y without being overly trekkie.
It's not a perfect game, but it's a lot better than the 2 year old reviews give it credit for, since they are, you know, 2 years old.
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You know... that's such a typical response for someone on honeymoon with "their new MMO" ;)
Then you'll be happy to know I gave you the opinion of somebody who's been playing for about a month (they had a ten-day invite just before F2P went live) and has long since exhausted all the Cryptic-made content.
Now take your smug attitude and get that ****ing flogged too. You assume I'm an easily lead fool and expect me to take you seriously? (Christ man, you have no conception of my posting history on the subject of gaming.)
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If anyone wants to hook up with me in this I'm SpardaSon21@SpardaSon22. Original, I know. :p
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And it occurs to me that Mikes is actually incapable of reading a whole post, since I actually outlined what content is available free (all gameplay) and what is not (pretty much cosmetic, so I suppose he's just dead-set on having his DS9 uniform...which has recently become available for grindy money as opposed to real money, but I digress).
The whole "honeymoon" argument is stupid. This is F2P. They can only exploit you with your consent. If you really think of yourself as so weak-willed that you can be tricked into spending money by Cryptic, I'd say you have whole slew of other problems. I haven't spent a cent on this game. The only person I know who has has been in there for a long time and was satisified with their purchase.
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I actually just started to play this a week ago, i'll give my name out once I replace it with something that I didn't
rip borrow from a campaign. :)
Edit: I'd also like to point out that I hate that character anyway.
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And it occurs to me that Mikes is actually incapable of reading a whole post, since I actually outlined what content is available free (all gameplay) and what is not (pretty much cosmetic, so I suppose he's just dead-set on having his DS9 uniform...which has recently become available for grindy money as opposed to real money, but I digress).
The whole "honeymoon" argument is stupid. This is F2P. They can only exploit you with your consent. If you really think of yourself as so weak-willed that you can be tricked into spending money by Cryptic, I'd say you have whole slew of other problems. I haven't spent a cent on this game. The only person I know who has has been in there for a long time and was satisified with their purchase.
As said above, for me it's not about the money. It's about quality and variety of gameplay and content.
It's a fact that pretty much all MMO's make liberal use of grind/grind based content gating/operant conditioning in order to artificially extend the lifespan of their content.
(Doesn't matter whether it's free to play or pay to play... the point is that grindy content is cheap to develop and keeps players busy.)
The only Cryptic game I do have personal experience with is City of Heroes and while that had several nifty ideas it was also chock full of grind and quite blatant repetition... so there's that.
I think what I originally asked, quite directly, is whether this is any different.
Sadly... you gave me a typical MMO fanboy answer that didn't really tell me anything.
And to clear up any further misunderstandings and false assumptions right here:
Yes I do know your posting history and while I may not always agree with the views your hold I frankly do regard you as a man of intelligence who knows how to make a solid argument.
So well... is it, any different? LOL.
P.S.: Even the smartest men have been known to take the traditional MMO scam hook line and sinker... and to take quite a while/years to really figure it out. That can't be used as an argument.
P.P.S.: 1 month is hardly what would be considered a "long playtime" in MMO circles... and what would be considered the "honeymoon phase" where people are all enthusiastic about their new MMO is hardly ever over in a single month if the game appeals to them at all. What you have to be aware of is that this is the phase where a typical MMO showers you with rewards and things to do left and right... it's how it gets it's hooks into you... only to later capitalize on your attachment to the character/ship you have spent so much effort to build up/acquire. Naturally a lot of people keep going, reluctant to let "all that work and effort go to waste"... while content and gameplay becomes ever more grindy. Worst case you get people who religiously repeat their "daily repeatable quests" for months on end, ever chasing that next "reward, until the accumulative effort spent on the game becomes so much that letting go suddenly appears to them as an impossibility. Operant conditioning is a *****. ;)
P.P.P.S.: So I don't just talk about negative examples: The one MMO style game that I did respect was Guildwars 1, to my knowledge, so far the only game in that genre that allowed you to enjoy 100% of it's content without ever *having* to spend a single minute on grind or repetition. The main premise of that game was that "player Skill should trump time spent playing - always" and I would love to see more MMO style games based on that premise... if STO was like this, I'd download it in a heartbeat... but unless you tell me differently, I'll assume it's just another crappy MMO that happily exploits it's players.
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Since it's F2P now, I will give this one a try too. Though i'm not really the multiplayer guy, let's see how far I can go alone. See you in the galaxy, guys :)
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My name is LunarNightmare@lunarnightmarexp (i'm so creative), anyway, i'll be lurking around the galaxy, catching a few torpedoes.
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The beauty of a F2P MMO is that since there's no monetary investment, when you get bored, you can just play something else without feeling bad. And then if you never go back to it, you still don't feel bad that you never finished it.
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As said above, for me it's not about the money. It's about quality and variety of gameplay and content.
This was discussed. Also: you're complaining about timesinks later, so what the **** is your point? What are you afraid of in the timesinks? Do hobbies scare you or something?
It's a fact that pretty much all MMO's make liberal use of grind/grind based content gating/operant conditioning in order to artificially extend the lifespan of their content.
(Doesn't matter whether it's free to play or pay to play... the point is that grindy content is cheap to develop and keeps players busy.)
Ah, I see. You're a moron.
It is not in the interest of a gaming company to offer free content that is grindy on an MMO, because then you are using up their server cycles and their money and they get nothing.
More to the point, the only really grindy content in this game I've encountered you have to force on yourself, with either STFs, crafting, or too much exploration. None of these things need be touched. (And honestly the STFs are getting disturbingly ungrindlike with the influx of new and ****ty players who **** things up. Never boring with a team full of rainbowguns.)
The only Cryptic game I do have personal experience with is City of Heroes and while that had several nifty ideas it was also chock full of grind and quite blatant repetition... so there's that.
I think what I originally asked, quite directly, is whether this is any different.
No, you asked whether it was different from other MMOs, not whether it was different from any specific one. So yeah. It's plenty different. It's got a sadly WoW feel on the ground, but at least it looks nicer and the art department wasn't composed of morons who think fighting enemies you can only see the feet and shins of is cool. In space terms, there's nothing like it out there. It's very pretty, it's nicely polished, different ships handle differently and perform different roles, there are some dud abilities (Boarding Party comes to mind) but even then manage to look cool if nothing else.
Plus, you know, Star Trek.
Sadly... you gave me a typical MMO fanboy answer that didn't really tell me anything.
Bull****. I and Mefuste both gave you clear, concise descriptions of the gameplay (it's like Star Trek), you were simply unable or unwilling to make correct use of them.
P.S.: Even the smartest men have been known to take the traditional MMO scam hook line and sinker... and to take quite a while/years to really figure it out. That can't be used as an argument.
If you willingly spent the time and it didn't cost you money, you still have only yourself to blame. Unless hobbies scare you. c.f. my commentary on your first statement.
P.P.S.: 1 month is hardly what would be considered a "long playtime" in MMO circles...
Ah, I see. You're still a moron.
I, and they, were commentating on the Single-Player content available to you if you play. Because though it's an MMO, you can treat it as an SP game with ease. (Unlike, say, EVE.)
It's very, very easy to run out of SP content in a week. Caitlin actually did it. She still hasn't joined a guild and she's rather down on the STF experience, and PVP is actually pretty hard to come by apparently. So you see, in your rush to condemn the MMO aspect of it, you stuck your head up your ass and failed to realize that this a multi-faceted game with aspects that are not massive or multiplayer, and those are arguably the best parts.
Since you hate MMOs with an unreasoning, fierce passion, I guess one stole your girlfriend or something, I offered you a commentary on the game as a single-player experience. You simply weren't smart enough to see that.
P.P.P.S.: So I don't just talk about negative examples: The one MMO style game that I did respect was Guildwars 1, to my knowledge, so far the only game in that genre that allowed you to enjoy 100% of it's content without ever *having* to spend a single minute on grind or repetition. The main premise of that game was that "player Skill should trump time spent playing - always" and I would love to see more MMO style games based on that premise... if STO was like this, I'd download it in a heartbeat... but unless you tell me differently, I'll assume it's just another crappy MMO that happily exploits it's players.
Well, it is, and you can, but this reflects you using it as a single-player game and delibrately not participating in team-based aspects. I suspect your Guild Wars example does the same.
(And of course there's EVE where you can scam your way to infinite wealth without much effort, but hey, you've never played that either I bet.)
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Karissa@ravenholmecp if anyone wants to add me. Just bumming about the galaxy when I have time off from uni work and ****. So not terribly high level.
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NGTM-1R... I wish you the best of luck in the search of the many clues you appear to be missing when discussing this subject. I seriously do.
Maybe we can revisit this discussion in a more civil and productive manner... in a couple of years.
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How do you tell what your in-game mail address is?
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Nevermind, found it under one of the 'team' menus. Because, you know, putting the character/user identification somewhere in the 'mail' or 'character' systems would make absolutely no sense whatsoever.
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Found the Shooter control setting. Makes ground missions way better IMO.
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Found the Shooter control setting. Makes ground missions way better IMO.
I find the shooter controls terrible, but that's probably because I need to remap them and I'm lazy.
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Found the Shooter control setting. Makes ground missions way better IMO.
I find the shooter controls terrible, but that's probably because I need to remap them and I'm lazy.
Still better than "select target, stand there like an idiot and repeatedly click the "shoot" icon."
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Just like KotOR, really. :P
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What's the deal with the Borg Deep Space Invasions? Every time I get the RED ALERT message, I warp there, and it's already over.
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Yep, it was for me too :)
The thing is this :
In the sector space (the astronomical part where you fly to systems) is a borg cube flying around, this is where you get teleported. This "event" will then be quickly over, or the message is being displayed to long
However, I managed to get there once, and I died 2 time before I did get out. These Borgs are extremly powerful, not comparable to the one in the intro. There where like 10 cubes, one tactical cube, a few spheres and some probes. And even the last ones are killing. They use the full program : Bufffs on you, so you can't move, tractorbeams and then it's over :)
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And if you successfully defeat four squadrons, you get to fight V'ger. Yeah, for realz. :banghead:
Also, wave if you see VA Inara Endran cruising around in the USS Hctib Elttil, an Odyssey class star cruiser(hint for combat, the Soverign is bascially the same, sadly there is no direct upgrade from the Sovvy)
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I might want to try this one out.
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What's the deal with the Borg Deep Space Invasions? Every time I get the RED ALERT message, I warp there, and it's already over.
I dunno, I haven't gotten one yet.
But that's something to do with me still being a lowbie dicking around with the NX-01 "replica" I got through a limited promotion.
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What's the deal with the Borg Deep Space Invasions? Every time I get the RED ALERT message, I warp there, and it's already over.
Law of unintended consequences. The Borg Incursions are only supposed to be up/accessible for a few minutes, but they stay up as long as people are en route to them, in them, or loading them. When the first team to finish one (it's not easy, I've only been on a successful team once, and one other time goddamn V'Ger warps out at 3% health with three torp spreads and a Tricobalt Device seconds from impact) finishes, though, it's supposed to lock off being able to join more. Instead it just makes them empty for anyone who's in warp to or loading, who stretch the empty site's existence, so more people can warp to it and start loading...
I gather triggering V'Ger's difficulty actually been buffed substantially since F2P went live, in terms of difficulty, and possibly his own skill use.
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I think V's difficulty is based on the sector he's in. I've killed him in Sierra and Regulus, but no where else because of the ridiculous amount of probes and plasma energy bolts he disgorges.
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Is this better then Battlestar Galactica online, where you cannot progress untill you're willing to spent absurde amounts of money for ships and other stuff, only to get crushed by people with more money?!
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Is this better then Battlestar Galactica online, where you cannot progress untill you're willing to spent absurde amounts of money for ships and other stuff, only to get crushed by people with more money?!
Much better.
You don't need to pay a cent to have fun until nearing endgame, you get a tier-appropriate ship of choice at 10,20,30 and maybe 40.
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Hm, I downloaded it...I started to play it... and I like it.
Although I think once I have to operate more then 3 weapons it will get kind off...fuzzy^^
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You can set an autofire to the weapons. I just leave my torpedos at manual fire so I can launch them when I know it'll hit an unshielded quadrant.
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I quit the tutorials before beginning the ground combat, 'cause I wanted to watch some more episodes of blassreiter.
Will they tell me how I set my phaser(?) on autofire?
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I heard this game was rather shaky when it was first released, but I'm glad to hear it's a fun experience now. I don't know that I'd play it myself, since I have more than enough huge time-sinks at the moment, but you gotta love good Trek stuff.
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TBH, I don't see the point of autofire, by default everything but torpedoes and mines are bound to the spacebar.
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I use the autofire function, I find combat that way much better. Controlling the ship in 3d space with WASD is not that easy, but still the version I like best (haven't tried joystick yet). Also, I'm now at Level 25 and I have more then 10 special actions in my taskbar that I use in the battle, and without firing the weapons manually, I can more focus on the other buttons. :)
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10 from your captain or total? because I find it easier to leave the BOff powers on the BOff bar(s).
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10 overall, including bridge crew (there are more, but I don't use them all). . Sofar I packed everything in the quickbar. Since I control the ship with WASD I try to minimize space where I have to move the mouse around so I can focus my eyes on my ship movement :)
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Uff, after the tutorial...I'm dumbstruck...this game is much more complex than I thought, missions are neat...
But what about alien artifacts and mineral samples and such stuff?
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Those are for crafting items at Memory Alpha. You'll need the schematics for the item you want to create other than hypos or batteries, they can be bought for 10,000 energy credits from a vendor, typically bought for a lot less (About 1,000 - 2,000) in the Exchange, or you can craft them yourself. You find them in some missions as well.
Anything crazy awesome though needs Unreplecatable Materials, which cost refined dilithium, and becomes expensive as all hell when you want to build, say, the Aegis set or outfit a high-Tier ship with weapons and equipment.
An alternative for finding ship items would be the STF missions (Although you need to be level 45 to begin those, and is a very grinding process (Rather much like the standard RPG concept of constant fighting to gain levels) to get the Encrypted Data Chips to purchase requisitions).
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So, I heard someone talking about an HLP Fleet. What's the word on that?
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Would be nice and as we're all in different time zones, it is assured that there are always people online.
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Haha there's an ad for the game at the top right now.
If there is to be a HLP fleet I will definitely try and jump in if I have the time. MMOs are usually funner for me if I can play alongside familiar (if only slightly familiar) faces.
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The USS Raynor has been renamed the Balls of Steele, in honor of that magnificent bastard from BP Dos
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The USS Raynor has been renamed the Balls of Steele, in honor of that magnificent bastard from BP Dos
I just saw a U.S.S. Raynor, I was wondering if it was a Starcraft person or one of us.
I got bored of TOR, so I downloaded this and it's surprisingly compelling considering I didn't spend a dime on it (yeah I like both Star Trek and Star Wars, I don't care if it's blasphemy). I guess I should figure out how to let you guys look me up, eh? HLP fleet would be pretty cool, especially since I think we'd be badass. Y'know, with all the practice shooting stuff in space.
Edit: I'm Renee@rainbowderpydash, if anyone feels like shooting me a friend request or something.
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The USS Raynor has been renamed the Balls of Steele, in honor of that magnificent bastard from BP Dos
bp dos!?
he'll get you for that
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(yeah I like both Star Trek and Star Wars, I don't care if it's blasphemy)
Nothing wrong with that, at all. In fact, you shall now be known as 30 percent cooler.
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I'd be in for an HLP fleet, might be one other as well.
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If someone stumbles over the U.S.S. Deathwing, it's yours truly ;)
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Well, I'm not really sure how my username is displayed, but I think it's "michael@starman003" :)
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The USS Raynor has been renamed the Balls of Steele, in honor of that magnificent bastard from BP Dos
bp dos!?
he'll get you for that
Would it make steele madder if he found out I named my first ship the Indus?
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ngtm1r if you are able to tolerate a wargame that's not super realistic but still nods in that direction you should check out wargame: european escalation
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Sooo, Is there an official HLP fleet? (I'm new to this game and wish to see some friendly faces)... ;)
Also, a note, if you ever stumble across a USS Solaris.... Its me!
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USS Celestial is me. Though I might not be on much since my craptastic internet hasn't been letting me play recently.
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ngtm1r if you are able to tolerate a wargame that's not super realistic but still nods in that direction you should check out wargame: european escalation
If I wanted to play a super-realistic wargame I'd set up in IED in my backyard and see if I live.
EDIT: Though EE looks interesting, I can't afford it right now. :/
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I'm up for an HLP fleet, if nothing else, I can be used as the official fleet redshirt. :p My ship is the U.S.S. Phoenicia, after all.
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I'm up for an HLP fleet, if nothing else, I can be used as the official fleet redshirt. :p My ship is the U.S.S. Phoenicia, after all.
"Oh no, a Borg cube! Quickly! Park your ship in front of it!"
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I'm up for an HLP fleet, if nothing else, I can be used as the official fleet redshirt. :p My ship is the U.S.S. Phoenicia, after all.
"Oh no, a Borg cube! Quickly! Park your ship in front of it!"
Aboard the Phoenicia
Female Bridge Officer: Uhhh... sir, they want us to park in front of that cube....
LunarNightmare: Yes? Why haven't you parked yet?
Female Bridge Officer: Because sir, I don't want to die yet.
LunarNightmare: Maybe you should've paid attention to the orientation meeting. We specifically asked you if you wanted to live.
Female Bridge Officer: That question was asked after 4 straight hours of questioning!
LunarNightmare: Heh, don't worry, our shields won't fai- *boom*
Computer: Shields have failed!
Female Bridge Officer: You were saying?
LunarNightmare: Try and make the last 10 seconds of my life a little easier by just staying quiet.
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Parking in front of a cube broadside is essentially what my Sovereign does best. (This Agincourt is not required to run from random single enemy cruisers.)
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Yeah, if you are flying a cruiser, broadsides are your money shots, to the point where you might want to switch from torps to all beams for better damage throughput. That said, it is terribly satisfying to watch a Heavy Tricobalt Device hit a, unshielded ship and watch said ship go POOF!
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I found a Golden Lock Box off of some dead Cardassian. Now I just need to save up ~23k dilithium to open it. :/
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Yeah, if you are flying a cruiser, broadsides are your money shots, to the point where you might want to switch from torps to all beams for better damage throughput. That said, it is terribly satisfying to watch a Heavy Tricobalt Device hit a, unshielded ship and watch said ship go POOF!
I actually found that, perversely, it was easier to show my ass to an enemy than my front. So, phaser banks in the front, torp in the rear, no problem! I still have a little noobie ship with only 2 front/1 rear weapon banks, though.
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A Shi'Kahr? Looks like a Miranda sorta?
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A Shi'Kahr? Looks like a Miranda sorta?
That sounds like mine actually...
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I found a Golden Lock Box off of some dead Cardassian. Now I just need to save up ~23k dilithium to open it. :/
They're cheaper off the exchange, 1mil or so.
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I guess I should look into how the game's economy works. Because I'm pretty poor, regarding energy credits.
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I've been having great fun just playing the exchange. If you're just into making EC as efficiently as possible, look into buying and selling regenerators and components. But don't get in my way, I will drink your milkshake!
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A Shi'Kahr? Looks like a Miranda sorta?
That sounds like mine actually...
Yeah, that's the ship you start out as captain of. You'll get something better when you hit LTC. A cruiser, which is basically a variation(as much as you want it to be) of the Constitution refit from the TOS movies, a science vessel like a Nova(think the one from Voyager, tho that one has been immortalized as a CPoint refit for a higher tier) or an escort which are all variations on the Steamrunner class. Again, your choice will be very much related to the specialization you chose. Tac = Escort, Engi = Cruiser, Sci = Science.
I'm sometimes tempted to do some of the missions I'm working on in my Conny, except that the mobs have an absolutely ridiculous amount of HP after they're shields go down, so you'll be sitting there watching your beams and torps do hundreds and thousands of damage on an unprotected hull, even after they go critical, that you need all 8 weapons from a Sovvy to get anything like quick kills. A Soverign with Anti-Borg AP beams and Quantum Torpedos should NOT have to trade fire with a frigate for 2 minutes.
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Heh, I run a cruiser as a Tac and I find it works fine.
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I don't get the difference between escorts and cruisers in Star Trek...are cruisers smaller and pack a meaner punch or what?
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No, cruisers are bigger and have an additional engineering station for more repair buffs and such. Escorts are all in the vein of the Defiant with quick maneuvering, attack patterns and weapons buffs, and frontal pulse cannon batteries.
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Whats the difference between a Frigate and a Cruiser on STO, Frigates are supposed to be far more powerful than a Cruiser, right? It seems to be the reverse in-case of STO, You can easily beat multiple frigates with ease even with that beat-up cruiser you get at the begging.
Also, what does USS stand for?? United Space ****? :wakka:
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Whats better, phaser cannons or that phaser beam thingy?
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If you look at the tooltip for a weapon, it will tell you the Damage, Damage Per Second, and Firing Arc.
Personally, I find Firing Arc to be the most important.
Also, like someone mentioned above, I find myself turning tail fairly often in the level 15+ missions. So if you do want a limited Firing Arc (it will save you weapons power, if you don't fire a bunch of beams at once), be sure to place them on the rear hardpoints.
P.S., It bugs me that they don't explicitly tell you the fire-rate.
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I was considering placing the torpedos on the rear hardpoint(I'm still stuck with that first ship)
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The tricky thing about torpedos is when you fire one, the rest also go on CD for 5 sec. So you won't ever see a torpedo boat that just chews through stuff.
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Urgh, how long do you stay a "new Account" before you can use zone chat?
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20 hours, I think.
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Try setting torps to autofire, and it might fire more than one.
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I think that's a DOff thing, sometimes mine do it too, more with photons than quantums.
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Whats better, phaser cannons or that phaser beam thingy?
Cannons are generally more powerful than beam arrays or beam banks but require more work to bring to bear. Not until you get an Akira (Heavy Escort) or Defiant (Tactical Escort) does that really become a simple problem.
You will be laughed out of the room in an STF if you're not packing at least majority cannons with an escort, but by the time you're rolling Fleet or Advanced maneuvering is much easier.
In general, cruisers are beam array, science ships (excepting long-range, which are really tiny cruisers) are dual beam bank, and escorts are cannons.
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Got my first upgrade. You are looking at the proud owner of the Quasar Class Science Vessel: USS Celestial Joule. (like my play on words there :P? )
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P.S., It bugs me that they don't explicitly tell you the fire-rate.
They do :) I think it's the DPS value, Damage Per Second.
I'm now at captain rank, and since the captain escort don't look that good, I took myself a galaxy class cruiser. Looks really nice, but it stears like a pregnant manaty, I'm barely able to fire my foreweapons more than once on a target, and then I have to fight it off with broadside phasers or backweapons. Maybe I should have taken the Intreprid Class as Science cruiser instead, more shields and better turn rates. I hope the next rank brings me a nice escort ship again. Despite the low crew and repair rates, for battles they are most convinient.
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You didn't just badmouth the Defiant.
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Actually, I did :lol:
Meh, it's nice, but it's so tiny, somehow I do not like it. I want something big and looking powerfull. If I had already enough D, i would check out all, but sofar I can only earn 4K of dilithium a day, that's not much :)
Maybe I will stick with my Akira-Class for a while, I always loved the design of this ship
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P.S., It bugs me that they don't explicitly tell you the fire-rate.
They do :) I think it's the DPS value, Damage Per Second.
I'm now at captain rank, and since the captain escort don't look that good, I took myself a galaxy class cruiser. Looks really nice, but it stears like a pregnant manaty, I'm barely able to fire my foreweapons more than once on a target, and then I have to fight it off with broadside phasers or backweapons. Maybe I should have taken the Intreprid Class as Science cruiser instead, more shields and better turn rates. I hope the next rank brings me a nice escort ship again. Despite the low crew and repair rates, for battles they are most convinient.
DPS isn't Fire-Rate. And I can get the gist of it just by looking at the difference between Damage Per Second and Damage Per Shot (Hell, I can calculate it), but I shouldn't have to.
There should be a field that explicitly tells me whether a weapon fires 0.5 times a second or 1.2 times in a second.
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Most of the space weapon can be refired the MMO standard 1.5 sec after the previous fire sequence. I say fire sequence, because beams fire 3 times per sequence. Torpedoes are capable of being fired one launcher every 8 or 10 seconds, except tricobalt which is once per minute.
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Question, I have my second ship, but the bindings are...crap, I fire my three beams on 7,8,4, torpedos on 2 and...well, is there a way to clear the bindings and do redo them?
And after finally finding my way to memory alpha, I can get rid of my samples^^
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Hold Right-Click, and drag them.
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Okay, I like my science vessel. I can jam your weapons sensors, grab you with a tractor beam, punch a hole in your sheilds, snipe your weapons, and finish it all off by mooning you and dropping a quantum torpedo in your face :P.
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Question, I have my second ship, but the bindings are...crap, I fire my three beams on 7,8,4, torpedos on 2 and...well, is there a way to clear the bindings and do redo them?
And after finally finding my way to memory alpha, I can get rid of my samples^^
I don't even have weapons in my bindings anymore, abilities crowded them out.
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Installed, set up, had a half hour to play and I've been away from my desktop for the last 3 days. Might have time as of tomorrow night.
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Is there a way to tell your ship to auto-target / fire upon the nearest enemy AFTER you kill your current, without having to manually target something or hit the 'fire-all' button?
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Just hit Commander and picked up and Excelsior class heavy cruiser (yeah, I had some extra funds sitting around in my Steam wallet and the other heavy cruiser was ugly as all hell). 2 plasma beam arrays and 1 quantum torp launcher in the fore and aft weapons slots and I'm totally going to town. I used my free ship to pick up the heavy escort and I love the maneuverability and speed, but damn I felt fragile. Slapped some tetryon cannons on the front and did some pretty impressive damage, though.
I'm really, really liking this game.
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I've flown nothing but cruisers, and I'm continually appalled at an escorts ability to completely obliterate the same ship I've been carving on for 2 minutes, many times more than one. In the Khitomer Space TFS for example, I'll engage the probes going for the gate and get maybe one of them, meanwhile the escort drivers have cleaned up one of the nanite generators and then come and clean out the other 5 i missed, in the time i took me to kill one or two of them. And this is on a sovvy with 6 MK X AP beams and a Tricobalt on the front and quantum on the back.
I understand that this is offset, by and large, by the ability to sit there and take it. But damn it!
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You might want to look at your weapon power settings, I get reasonably good damage out of my Sov.
Either that or you have old old modules. The AP ones appear only to be craftable.
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I've flown nothing but cruisers, and I'm continually appalled at an escorts ability to completely obliterate the same ship I've been carving on for 2 minutes, many times more than one. In the Khitomer Space TFS for example, I'll engage the probes going for the gate and get maybe one of them, meanwhile the escort drivers have cleaned up one of the nanite generators and then come and clean out the other 5 i missed, in the time i took me to kill one or two of them. And this is on a sovvy with 6 MK X AP beams and a Tricobalt on the front and quantum on the back.
I understand that this is offset, by and large, by the ability to sit there and take it. But damn it!
I find it's kind of a luck crapshoot for me. I'm currently addicted to war zones, so I've been killing a lot of Borg lately. Flying my heavy escort is much more point and shoot, blow defensive cooldowns, don't die. In my heavy cruiser, I just find it way more fun. Swoop in, torp spread, turn around and punch emergency maneuvers while purging some warp plasma, which has the lovely side effect of screening heavy torps without me having to manually shoot them, use the plasma snare and tractor beams to limit the number of shield quadrants I have to deplete, broadside beams while alternating between my fore and aft quantum torps. Even got jumped by a Klingon ship (can't remember what it was) and I ended the fight at like 80% hull. Completely wrecked the guy and I don't think he expected me to survive a Borg Sphere and him. Of course it's all anecdotal; I've been flying nothing but cruisers until I picked up the Oslo heavy escort and I'm sure I'd have more refined tactics if I'd been flying them all along. But my assessment is that the escorts are way more vulnerable to snares. If I get tractored in the Oslo, I'm done. I also have a way easier time surviving getting jumped by those *&%^ing ninja cubes in the cruisers. How can something so big be so good at sneaking up on you? :P
Damn if I don't love my Excelsior. It was my favorite ship as a kid, even built a huge model of it.
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I have 6 STF acquired Mark X AP beam array with energy diverted to weapons, on an unshielded target at about 5km I hit for about 550 - 700, more if i get closer, but closer makes me vulnerable to tractor beam/heavy plasma combos.
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I guess I will sooner or later buy the Defiant class.
I like my escorts, but I really want massive forward firepower...
Other suggestions?
Edit: Is it possible to change my account type vom perfect world to cryptic?
I just want to pay with paypal and not any other thingy
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I've flown nothing but cruisers, and I'm continually appalled at an escorts ability to completely obliterate the same ship I've been carving on for 2 minutes, many times more than one. In the Khitomer Space TFS for example, I'll engage the probes going for the gate and get maybe one of them, meanwhile the escort drivers have cleaned up one of the nanite generators and then come and clean out the other 5 i missed, in the time i took me to kill one or two of them. And this is on a sovvy with 6 MK X AP beams and a Tricobalt on the front and quantum on the back.
I understand that this is offset, by and large, by the ability to sit there and take it. But damn it!
I fly a Nomad Starcruiser with its weapons power at 90 (When warp core proficency is in effect), and usually I'm the one that's attacking the runaway Probes in Khitomer Accord, the Nanite Probes / Spheres in Infected, or the Borg-Klingon ships in Cure.
These ships aren't much of a problem for me, the Probes especially. Remove a shield quadrant and High-Yield II that side with Quantum Torpedos and it pops. Tractor the second Probe right on top of the first and it does half of the work for you. The Spheres and Raptors can be hairy, and it's a good thing someone usually jumps in since I wouldn't be able to defend the I.K.S. Kang against four Raptors alone. Oddly enough the Negh'Var is easier to destroy than a Raptor...
Playing those missions on Elite are a different story though. Even the Probes are freaking tanks.
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I'm not that trustfull...I have a paypal account, but why does perfect world want to know my adress and phone number O.O
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When you select which account type you want to use I think it's permament.
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Yeah, that's for sure, but paypall has all the information and I don't get it, why perfect world wants my data too.
Playong World of Tanks, they're just happy with the name of my paypall account...
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God only knows, but I haven't been spammed with anything irritating. It could be for account recovery for all we know, but they probably sell it. However as I said, I haven't seen an uptick in my spam or any unwanted phone calls.
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There's a reason I don't trust PW.
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Just hit Commander, and I noticed a drastic increase in difficulty on generic missions. Part of that is that I have to remember to use my abilities, of course.
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So, anyone create a fleet yet?
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Just hit Commander, and I noticed a drastic increase in difficulty on generic missions. Part of that is that I have to remember to use my abilities, of course.
Yeah, I noticed a pretty significant jump in the difficulty of ground missions past Commander. Not sure about the space missions, they might be more difficult but I've got a beast of a ship and all kinds of fun goodies from being completely addicted to the Ker'rat war zone. I'm still amazed at how sneaky the Borg cubes are. Also, as a bonus, the war zone starts actually having some PvP at Commander...or, I should say, a couple of roaming Klinks that like to pick off lone Fed ships. It's a good thing the devs gave them stealth, because I don't think I've ever seen more than 3 or 4 in the zone, as opposed to 10-12 Feds. I don't get many kills, but I think they get bored trying to wear down my tank and eventually just give up and go away to find someone else. :lol: Unless I'm flying my escort, in which case all bets are off. Paper thin, but I've got it outfit with all rare tetryon heavy cannons fore and turrets aft, its forward firepower is frightening. So much fun.
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Just hit Commander, and I noticed a drastic increase in difficulty on generic missions. Part of that is that I have to remember to use my abilities, of course.
You have to step up to the plate with new kit gear about that level, possibly new away team gear. I really ran into the wall as a Captain, though, because there's at least two tiers more guns in that rank band and the lowest-possible bog-standard ones your ship is automatically outfitted with leave you throwing spitwads.
The Rear Admiral wall isn't as bad. I had my Galaxy gear on my Sovvie until I could replace it with stuff from STFs.
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I've discovered the Arena PvP is rather fun. Though I'll typically be pew-pewing someone in my science vessel, only to be blind-sided by an escort, which takes me out in about three volleys. I definitely need to hang near a bullet-sponge in that game.
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Just hit Commander, and I noticed a drastic increase in difficulty on generic missions. Part of that is that I have to remember to use my abilities, of course.
You have to step up to the plate with new kit gear about that level, possibly new away team gear. I really ran into the wall as a Captain, though, because there's at least two tiers more guns in that rank band and the lowest-possible bog-standard ones your ship is automatically outfitted with leave you throwing spitwads.
The Rear Admiral wall isn't as bad. I had my Galaxy gear on my Sovvie until I could replace it with stuff from STFs.
Also, for space combat, I noticed it's much more important to have bridge officers with useful abilities that you can actually put to use (as in, Eject Warp Plasma is fun but you probably won't be able to use it much in a cruiser because it's harder to control the speed and turning fight), and you should use them early and often. Plus, it's not necessarily the tier of equipment but also the type. Mines suck (except for chronitron or tractor mines in area-denial situations), turrets kinda suck, non-heavy cannons are meh. Escorts should pretty much have only heavy cannons fore. Cruisers and beam arrays are a match made in heaven. Torps are only useful if you're comfortable enough with your maneuvering to know that you'll be able to bring them to bear at the right times. Also, photons only. Most of this stuff seems like pretty general consensus. I could be mistaken, though. :P
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Got my third ship and I'm still using a phaser turret as aft weapon, since this thing has a FoF of 360°.
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I find the 250 degree phaser batteries to be more effective than the 360 degree turrets, at my level. Mainly because the former does four times the damage of the latter.
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I find the 250 degree phaser batteries to be more effective than the 360 degree turrets, at my level. Mainly because the former does four times the damage of the latter.
Yeah, the turrets just do such terrible damage. The beam arrays (240 deg.) are what you should be using if you have a cruiser - turn to broadside and fire both fore and aft beam arrays until you take down a quadrant, turn toward and fire fore torps. If you're in an escort, I suppose you could get away with turrets in your aft slots if you never really show your aft arcs to the enemy (since they're all about forward firepower). But compared to the heavy cannons, the turrets look even worse. I like chronitron mines in my heavy escort aft. Between the mines and warp plasma, it's pretty easy to trap some poor bastard in a snare and blow them away with the cannons. Having an aft torp launcher is nice for when you have to u-turn and open distance, and it's a nice little surprise for people trying to follow you. I don't hate turrets, I just think they get outclassed by the other options.
Oh, almost forgot: get rid of the phaser types as soon as you can. Disabling weapons sounds nice but it doesn't happen often enough or for long enough. If you can get 'em, tetryon weapons eat shields for breakfast.
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btw,
Bosch@jerkwadthesecond
I would have made a new Cryptic account, but I can't delete the link to my e-mail (let alone the account) from Perfect World.
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So, I have a photon torpedo launcher, dual plasma cannon and a dual heavy phaser cannon fore...
So I should get rid of the heavy phasers?
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If you mix energy weapons types, they will drain power from each other and your damage suffers a bit (I think it's on the tooltip somewhere, although it isn't phrased very clearly as to how the reduction works). I would recommend ditching the plasma and getting another phaser cannon from the Exchange. Phaser weapons are dirt cheap, which is fortunately one of their advantages. Also, I'm not sure I'd bother with a forward torp launcher on an escort (since you're using dual heavy cannons). Another set of cannons will actually out-DPS a torp launcher with the added advantage that cannons aren't useless on shielded targets. If you love torpedoes, you could get away with having it aft, though. Anything aft on an escort is going to be fairly situational anyway.
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Tricobalt actually works pretty well as an aft weapon. That said, Torpedo Spread doesn't seem to work with it about 9/10 of the time.
Also, the drain is when you fight more than any two energy beam weapons at the same time, which is why broadsiding with a cruiser is generally weaker than an escort. Though it's not bad if you can get them to unsynchronize.
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Oh, almost forgot: get rid of the phaser types as soon as you can. Disabling weapons sounds nice but it doesn't happen often enough or for long enough. If you can get 'em, tetryon weapons eat shields for breakfast.
Tetryon Procs do not scale with level, iirc. Phasers do. (Everything but plasma and tets does, I believe; one of the reasons plasma is cheaper than phasers at high levels.) In fact this is terrible advice since phasers have a chance to disable any subsystem (shields, weapons, engines, aux) and the hilarity of seeing somebody's shield system crash two seconds before the inbound torpedoes hit should always be experienced at least once. This matters less to escorts because they rarely fight extended battles, but it can still be quite noticeable.
Mixing weapons does not directly hurt you. The power drain is a consequence of firing any energy weapon and cannot be avoided. Rather, you get more damage out of having a standardized battery and the type-specific tac consoles to support it.
Torps on the front of an escort, I'm told, depend on having torp skills in your bridge officers. (I'm beginning to suspect the use of torps in general, once you get up to Captain and beyond, could be described that way.) If you have Spread or High Yield they're an excellent addition if managed well.
Turrets are useful mainly to escorts because they can fire frontally with the front guns and are also cannons, meaning that your bridge officer cannon skills work on them too. I don't see too many other ships mounting them.
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Tricobalt actually works pretty well as an aft weapon. That said, Torpedo Spread doesn't seem to work with it about 9/10 of the time.
It shouldn't work at all. You can only use high-yield with Tricobalt. (Because being able to launch spreads of 10k torps would be broken as ****. An HY-1 hit from a TCD does between 20k and 50k damage to an unprotected hull. I've seen them used to oneshot Borg Cubes outside of STFs.)
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It shouldn't work at all. You can only use high-yield with Tricobalt. (Because being able to launch spreads of 10k torps would be broken as ****. An HY-1 hit from a TCD does between 20k and 50k damage to an unprotected hull. I've seen them used to oneshot Borg Cubes outside of STFs.)
star trek voyager mode
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Shouldn't it be the other way around? Cubes I see in STF missions are usually four - five levels lower than my own ship (But that might be a Normal difficulty thing), and Cubes in the deep space encounters will match my level.
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I don't really get it either, all I know is that I watched my friend's escort TCD a Cube in an exploration mission and blow it away from 90+% with a 45k hit, whereas a 30k hit in an STF is good for less than 1% per thousand damage. (I assume STF ones have significant buffs since in theory you could have up to five players shooting at them and it would be awkward if they simply evaporated, even more so in missions where you need to manage them and keep them active for a little longer like Cure Elite.)
You can also pick up on serious differences between Borg Incursion baddies and regular encounter/mission ones. Incursion ones are weaker yet.
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Oh, almost forgot: get rid of the phaser types as soon as you can. Disabling weapons sounds nice but it doesn't happen often enough or for long enough. If you can get 'em, tetryon weapons eat shields for breakfast.
Tetryon Procs do not scale with level, iirc. Phasers do. (Everything but plasma and tets does, I believe; one of the reasons plasma is cheaper than phasers at high levels.) In fact this is terrible advice since phasers have a chance to disable any subsystem (shields, weapons, engines, aux) and the hilarity of seeing somebody's shield system crash two seconds before the inbound torpedoes hit should always be experienced at least once. This matters less to escorts because they rarely fight extended battles, but it can still be quite noticeable.
Mixing weapons does not directly hurt you. The power drain is a consequence of firing any energy weapon and cannot be avoided. Rather, you get more damage out of having a standardized battery and the type-specific tac consoles to support it.
Torps on the front of an escort, I'm told, depend on having torp skills in your bridge officers. (I'm beginning to suspect the use of torps in general, once you get up to Captain and beyond, could be described that way.) If you have Spread or High Yield they're an excellent addition if managed well.
Turrets are useful mainly to escorts because they can fire frontally with the front guns and are also cannons, meaning that your bridge officer cannon skills work on them too. I don't see too many other ships mounting them.
Ah, okay, thanks for clearing that up, especially about the energy drain bit. I had assumed that the "-xx power when firing other weapons" was there to discourage mixing weapon types, since I figured that it would be pretty obvious that firing weapons explicitly uses weapon system energy and the tooltip didn't need to point that out. The tooltip description is pretty vaguely worded.
Also, thanks for pointing out that tetryon/plasma procs don't scale. That's...disappointing, to say the least. I definitely have started to notice that torps are getting much less useful unless I'm using them in incredibly specific situations after boosting with a spread/HY; thankfully, my XO and tac officer has both (I'm an engineer).
Apologies for the misguided advice, then, that necessitated correction. I feel suitably chastised. :P
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I now have two phaser heavy cannons and one heavy dual phaser cannon fore and one phaser turret and a topredo launcher aft.
It is nice to see that my cannon rapid fire skill strips a ship of its shielding, and then I turn away and give them a high yield torpedo barrage to swallow...
But now I have no dilithium-.-
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We should probably set up a time and place to meet, to make the fleet.
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We should probably set up a time and place to meet, to make the fleet.
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dexter remmick spotted
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I now have two phaser heavy cannons and one heavy dual phaser cannon fore and one phaser turret and a topredo launcher aft.
It is nice to see that my cannon rapid fire skill strips a ship of its shielding, and then I turn away and give them a high yield torpedo barrage to swallow...
But now I have no dilithium-.-
It's okay, you can get it back. I have a crapton from being completely addicted to warzones. Plus I'm pretty sure when you hit grade 50 you open up a few more dailies and whatnot to get more.
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We should probably set up a time and place to meet, to make the fleet.
Is creating a fleet for free?
So if we have a name, someone can set up a fleet and invite people...
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You just need five people as far as I know, no other sort of pricetag.
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Sign me up for that fleet. If you can find me when I'm online, I'll help create it if I can. Otherwise, I'll link up with ya later.
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Urgh, I suppose I should hop again, but you HLP'ers are all higher levels than I am.
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What are these warzones you speak of... They sound fun. Also, why are you all playing on normal? I found medium much more fun, though I am still only a LC, so It may just be the easier missions.
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What are these warzones you speak of... They sound fun. Also, why are you all playing on normal? I found medium much more fun, though I am still only a LC, so It may just be the easier missions.
Things do get quite a bit tougher, and I'm only a captain.
Edit: one of the war zones is in the Ker'rat system, Donatu sector, Eta Eridani block. Not sure if there are any others. I've been too busy killing stuff to do proper exploration. Make sure you check Starfleet for the repeatable mission; it's called War Zone of Klingon Looters or something. Sort of misleading as you mostly fight Borg, until you're fighting 3 probes at once alone, your shields are down, and THEN the Klinks will come out of nowhere and 5v1 you because they're filthy cowards.
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I don't change the difficulty, still playing at normal...and I'm pretty contempt with it...
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By the way, I'm Jaesom@retsof90 . (yeah, I was a bit dumb when naming and don't want to spend money to correct it)
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Found another golden lockbox (this time off of a mine), and I still can't afford to open either one of them.
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Hm, all I found so far is a blue (or purple) "very rare" lockbox. I bought a key, and what did I get ? A tribble :mad: :hopping:
Never found a golden one yet, just the usual random lockbox. Have certainly trashed 200 of them...
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I've probably dumped close to 1000 myself. When I get some free monies, I'll probably buy a few keys and try my luck for the runabout pet from the green boxes and open the 3 purple quality ones I have in my bank.
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What are these warzones you speak of... They sound fun. Also, why are you all playing on normal? I found medium much more fun, though I am still only a LC, so It may just be the easier missions.
Things do get quite a bit tougher, and I'm only a captain.
Edit: one of the war zones is in the Ker'rat system, Donatu sector, Eta Eridani block. Not sure if there are any others. I've been too busy killing stuff to do proper exploration. Make sure you check Starfleet for the repeatable mission; it's called War Zone of Klingon Looters or something. Sort of misleading as you mostly fight Borg, until you're fighting 3 probes at once alone, your shields are down, and THEN the Klinks will come out of nowhere and 5v1 you because they're filthy cowards.
The Klinks are so sweet :)
They always attack me from behind, so they get a tractor beam for free, as well as a torpedo barrage, then I activate shield boost, turn and blast them away with rapid fire or spread burst.
When I or they're still alive, usually other people will rush towards you...
Funny thing is, when the map resets, they get killed in an instant :)
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Found another golden lockbox (this time off of a mine), and I still can't afford to open either one of them.
Selling stuff on the open market, particulary if you escaped from EVE marketeering, is pretty good. (Also the daily "tour the galaxy" thing is apparently worth a hell of lot money if you can do it, maybe 400k EC a pop.)
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What are these warzones you speak of... They sound fun. Also, why are you all playing on normal? I found medium much more fun, though I am still only a LC, so It may just be the easier missions.
Things do get quite a bit tougher, and I'm only a captain.
Edit: one of the war zones is in the Ker'rat system, Donatu sector, Eta Eridani block. Not sure if there are any others. I've been too busy killing stuff to do proper exploration. Make sure you check Starfleet for the repeatable mission; it's called War Zone of Klingon Looters or something. Sort of misleading as you mostly fight Borg, until you're fighting 3 probes at once alone, your shields are down, and THEN the Klinks will come out of nowhere and 5v1 you because they're filthy cowards.
The Klinks are so sweet :)
They always attack me from behind, so they get a tractor beam for free, as well as a torpedo barrage, then I activate shield boost, turn and blast them away with rapid fire or spread burst.
When I or they're still alive, usually other people will rush towards you...
Funny thing is, when the map resets, they get killed in an instant :)
I really like when they're losing and they run away and cloak. It happens to me a lot because I fly cruisers and go defensive. I've only fought a few who stuck it out to the bitter end and took their lumps; I always give them a "Good fight" in local. Considering that dying is basically meaningless, I don't understand the rampant cowardice (don't get me wrong, I see it a lot Fed side too). I usually ignore the Klinks when the zone resets, I can go tag 3 or 4 encryption nodes and note the location of repair hulks. If you top the zone board at the end, you get a purple as opposed to a blue. I have to say I love how the game discourages AFKing in the war zones. Don't contribute to the objectives? No loot or credit for you. :D
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Most of the time I fail to scan the nodes and so I'm used to defend the cruisers or those, who try to scan, so drawing the fire and these things.
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I know that I posted my name earlier in this thread, but that was quite a few pages back, so again, my name on there is LunarNightmare@lunarnightmarexp, if there's a fleet, i'd love to be a part of it and catch some rounds with you guys. :)
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Most of the time I fail to scan the nodes and so I'm used to defend the cruisers or those, who try to scan, so drawing the fire and these things.
They're kind of annoying because there's always some kind of thing in the way, and inevitably, while you're fighting it, someone else will come by and scan the node. Use line-of-sight to your advantage, and you can actually scan while in combat. It's easier if you fly escort but still possible in a cruiser if you play with your throttle and remember that if your turn rate stays the same, lower speed means smaller turn radius, etc.
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Are the STO servers down or something?? I get a cannot connect to auto-update error, plus, the STO site doesn't open for me.
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Well, I just got to captain, got myself a tactical escort, made it look nice, and all of my bridge officers are female. :D
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Not looking forward to Captain as much, honestly. I plan on sticking with Science, but the Research Science Vessel is just so ugly.
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Missions start to get much slower after 30. I'd seriously recommend joining a party at that point, if you can find one. (Note: one of the reasons we should start a fleet)
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As i've said before, i'm always up for a fleet, i'm getting a little tired of being a lone wolf anyway. Captain doesn't really seem any slower than commander though, i'm doing the exact same stuff as I always have, going to a warzone, turning cubes and Klingons into statistics, refining dilithium, going on the occasional mission that I get, hell, I even decided to take on 3 cubes at once with no support in my old escort. I don't know what was going through my head when I thought of that, but I can tell you what did soon after. :p
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I even decided to take on 3 cubes at once with no support in my old escort. I don't know what was going through my head when I thought of that, but I can tell you what did soon after. :p
"WE ARE THE BORG. WE WILL ADD YOUR TECHNOLOGICAL AND BIOLOGICAL DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE."
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Let's see, I'm, interestingly enough, jr2. ;) I don't really play much, though. EDIT: just posted here to put my name in, didn't notice the convo, sorry.
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I just hit rear admiral, got a sweet assault cruiser, and turned it into an evil torp-slinging beast. Two interesting things I've noticed about ST:O recently:
1.) Replaying the Klingon War arc missions seems to give better rewards than everything but STFs at max level. One in particular, the end of the arc, called "Past Imperfect," gives you a choice of a shield with massive capacity (probably ~20% more than a covariant [cap x2]) or some plasma-disruptor hybrid beam arrays or heavy cannons, which deal more damage than very rare quality weapons and have the procs of both plasma and disruptor weapons.
2.) Ground missions are cake when you're an engineer with orbital strike (still wondering how it works inside buildings, though) and an entire ground team with miniguns and with abilities that construct quantum mortars.
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I even decided to take on 3 cubes at once with no support in my old escort. I don't know what was going through my head when I thought of that, but I can tell you what did soon after. :p
"WE ARE THE BORG. WE WILL ADD YOUR TECHNOLOGICAL AND BIOLOGICAL DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE."
Nah, it was a heavy plasma torpedo, nothing was of use to the Borg after that, unless they want to assimilate a frozen leg.
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"WE ARE THE BORG. WE WILL ADD YOUR TECHNOLOGICAL AND BIOLOGICAL DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE."
Unless it was a multivector, that's pretty standard for more than one cube.
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Been having a blast with this game.
Rolling engineer, with cruisers. rank 24. loaded right now with dual beams in front, turrets in the back, like a tougher escort, I ride with them in PVE events to keep attention off the escorts, while still doing enough damage to pull aggro and stuff.
I'm @maximumname, so if we start a fleet, that's me.
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You'll find yourself looking at beam arrays when you hit the 4 nacelle beasts in 6 levels, they just don't handle like the smaller ships.
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Holy crap, I'm just reading about all these ship classes and wonder, if tactical officer ging for the promtheus or fleet escort was the best idea...
'cause the Odyssey looks realy...awesome
BTW: Thoronwen@Cr1zza that's me :)
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I'm hoping the Odyssey gets at least a new costume for more visual customization, I don't like how it looks now. Though it isn't a bad ship to fly.
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Holy crap, I'm just reading about all these ship classes and wonder, if tactical officer ging for the promtheus or fleet escort was the best idea...
'cause the Odyssey looks realy...awesome
BTW: Thoronwen@Cr1zza that's me :)
I prefer the escorts, though they lack the durability of a cruiser, I love their speed, maneuverability, and the cannons, oh God... ever since the day that I first strapped plasma cannons to my Akira, I have become a Klingon's worst nightmare.
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I stick with the phaser cannons...but when I get my Defiant, I'll buy me some new ones.
Participating in the warzones ensure a nice Dilithium income.
Played some take and hold map yesterday, although we lost, it was real fun.
The Klinks always prowled the map in a huge pack, with one lone wolve scouting ahead, while my fellow feds were more like...bears, each fighting for himself.
At the end I bonded with a science cruiser, but it was too late.
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Holy crap, I'm just reading about all these ship classes and wonder, if tactical officer ging for the promtheus or fleet escort was the best idea...
In all honesty, most team combat gets bogged down in a lack of DPS in my experience (ever tried an STF with all cruisers?), and nothing quite delivers DPS like a high-end escort and a Tactical captain.
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I'm hoping the Odyssey gets at least a new costume for more visual customization, I don't like how it looks now. Though it isn't a bad ship to fly.
I'll be honest, I didn't like the Ody at first, but I pulled her out after I set my Soverign up with a full array of AP and Quantum weapons, MACO Mk X equipement(I'm too lazy to work the STFs for MK XI), she's not a bad ship, once you get her some equipment. Though she is squashy until you get something going(Borg is great).
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You'll find yourself looking at beam arrays when you hit the 4 nacelle beasts in 6 levels, they just don't handle like the smaller ships.
And after that, the Galaxy-class handles like a slug. Oddly enough, after that, I feel that the assault cruiser handles nicely, for a cruiser.
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I have fitted my Sovereign with enough RCS that it actually turns decently. Which was probably stupid.
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You'll find yourself looking at beam arrays when you hit the 4 nacelle beasts in 6 levels, they just don't handle like the smaller ships.
And after that, the Galaxy-class handles like a slug. Oddly enough, after that, I feel that the assault cruiser handles nicely, for a cruiser.
Its turn rate is actually higher than the Explorer's, so that would explain that feeling.
I have fitted my Sovereign with enough RCS that it actually turns decently. Which was probably stupid.
At least one console wouldn't hurt, I think.
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I have two, at least. Might be more, I'd have to look.
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you guys make me want to play this game, ****
gonna get the uss FINALLY LIEUTENANT HARRY KIM
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you guys make me want to play this game, ****
Resistence is futile. :D
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Worked my science officer up to captain with an Intrepid, which was pretty cool. Nice abilities, packed into a ship with reasonable maneuverability, great shielding, and generally nice to fly. Plus, I've got to say the Intrepid has a special place in my heart. Variable geometry nacelles are awesome.
But then, I started a tactical captain. Right now, I'm flying a Defiant-class armed with three dual heavy phaser cannons, a quantum torpedo launcher, and two phaser turrets. The forward firepower of this thing is so intense, it'd make Admieral Piett proud. Now, I'm finding it really hard to go back to leveling my science captain.
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Worked my science officer up to captain with an Intrepid, which was pretty cool. Nice abilities, packed into a ship with reasonable maneuverability, great shielding, and generally nice to fly. Plus, I've got to say the Intrepid has a special place in my heart. Variable geometry nacelles are awesome.
But then, I started a tactical captain. Right now, I'm flying a Defiant-class armed with three dual heavy phaser cannons, a quantum torpedo launcher, and two phaser turrets. The forward firepower of this thing is so intense, it'd make Admieral Piett proud. Now, I'm finding it really hard to go back to leveling my science captain.
I know the feeling, I can't go back to my engineering officer now. :)
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Made it to Captain last night, finally have my Defiant...
Outzfitted it with four double phaser cannons or were it heavy dual cannons?
Don't know, but while trying to get on the same map as uh...guess it was Luna, I realized that this thing has quite a punch.
Downside: My tactical officers are crap, the skills are bugged, so I guess I'll drop them as soon as I get new ones and skill them from the beginning.*sigh*
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I got my Star Cruiser...I can die happy now.
I don't care how well they perform, they just look bloody awesome.
@dariusbei0
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You guys are making me feel weak. I just have a Lt. Commander Tactical Officer. :(
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I just started last night. Made 2 accounts, one to dick around with and learn the game and another to put forth a semi serious effort.
Can't wait to work up to get a Defiant - it was my favorite ship in a Starfleet Command 2 mod that threw in bunches and bunches of various canonical ships.
Of course, this is no Starfleet Command 2 :P
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My Officers realy worry me...but it is nice to put a torpedo heay yield 1 and 3 out short aftzer each other, when I stripped the target of its shield with rapid fire from four dual heavy cannons :)
BTW Darius: I could only add you after i removed the 0 behind your nick...
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Broke down and made an account. Cruising around in my little podunk whatever I started with as an Engineering officer, having entirely too much fun torpedo boating around with my pair of forward launchers and a disruptor turret in the back.
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Can't wait to work up to get a Defiant - it was my favorite ship in a Starfleet Command 2 mod that threw in bunches and bunches of various canonical ships.
Of course, this is no Starfleet Command 2 :P
What about SFC3? That one definitely had the Defiant, and lots of Borg to shoot at.
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Yeah but it was bad :(
If I can't slap a tractor on some ratprick and pop scatterpacks while hiding under a two-point ECM shift it's not really SFC damn it
helm execute 360 degree high energy turn
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Worked my science officer up to captain with an Intrepid, which was pretty cool. Nice abilities, packed into a ship with reasonable maneuverability, great shielding, and generally nice to fly. Plus, I've got to say the Intrepid has a special place in my heart. Variable geometry nacelles are awesome.
But then, I started a tactical captain. Right now, I'm flying a Defiant-class armed with three dual heavy phaser cannons, a quantum torpedo launcher, and two phaser turrets. The forward firepower of this thing is so intense, it'd make Admieral Piett proud. Now, I'm finding it really hard to go back to leveling my science captain.
I have almost the opposite problem. Escorts are cool and all, but if I can't soak damage from 3-4 Klinks jumping me in a warzone until all of them give up in frustration and go away, I just feel vulnerable. Cruisers are so much fun. Plus I like to think mine puts out some pretty respectable damage when I have the chance. :D
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Well I actually never had SFC2... I had SFC2: Orion Pirates.
Nevertheless... Man that game was (is) fun. Not that STO isn't, otherwise I wouldn't be planning on playing any more.. much less joining any HLP fleet that emerges, if one does.
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Worked my science officer up to captain with an Intrepid, which was pretty cool. Nice abilities, packed into a ship with reasonable maneuverability, great shielding, and generally nice to fly. Plus, I've got to say the Intrepid has a special place in my heart. Variable geometry nacelles are awesome.
But then, I started a tactical captain. Right now, I'm flying a Defiant-class armed with three dual heavy phaser cannons, a quantum torpedo launcher, and two phaser turrets. The forward firepower of this thing is so intense, it'd make Admieral Piett proud. Now, I'm finding it really hard to go back to leveling my science captain.
I have almost the opposite problem. Escorts are cool and all, but if I can't soak damage from 3-4 Klinks jumping me in a warzone until all of them give up in frustration and go away, I just feel vulnerable. Cruisers are so much fun. Plus I like to think mine puts out some pretty respectable damage when I have the chance. :D
That's why I like my current commander-level cruiser loaded with dual beams in front and turrets in the back, fly in formation with an escort and we just sweep mobs.
3 dual beam banks+fire at will beams is just crazy.
In fact, I think I'll do something like this for a science cruiser at captain, same weapons capacity, and even better turn rate+science boffs mean I can shield tank better than if I roll with a exploration cruiser.
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Has anyone an idea for descent officers?
Dropped one tactical, but I want to retrain him and the first two skills are just fixed...what use do I have with two high yield torpedos?
And finally, I was topplayer in a warzone, got a purple disrupter cannon...but sadly enough no purple cannon:P
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Worked my science officer up to captain with an Intrepid, which was pretty cool. Nice abilities, packed into a ship with reasonable maneuverability, great shielding, and generally nice to fly. Plus, I've got to say the Intrepid has a special place in my heart. Variable geometry nacelles are awesome.
But then, I started a tactical captain. Right now, I'm flying a Defiant-class armed with three dual heavy phaser cannons, a quantum torpedo launcher, and two phaser turrets. The forward firepower of this thing is so intense, it'd make Admieral Piett proud. Now, I'm finding it really hard to go back to leveling my science captain.
I have almost the opposite problem. Escorts are cool and all, but if I can't soak damage from 3-4 Klinks jumping me in a warzone until all of them give up in frustration and go away, I just feel vulnerable. Cruisers are so much fun. Plus I like to think mine puts out some pretty respectable damage when I have the chance. :D
That's why I like my current commander-level cruiser loaded with dual beams in front and turrets in the back, fly in formation with an escort and we just sweep mobs.
3 dual beam banks+fire at will beams is just crazy.
In fact, I think I'll do something like this for a science cruiser at captain, same weapons capacity, and even better turn rate+science boffs mean I can shield tank better than if I roll with a exploration cruiser.
Get the plasma-disruptor hybrid beams from the "Past Imperfect" mission if you roll with beam arrays. Their damage is absolutely ridiculously higher than everything else until you're VA and can do STFs (don't pay attention to the tooltip, it doesn't show the correct damage or the procs - I've compared them to even very rare [Dmg] x3 arrays of equal level). Actually, I'd recommend checking the Klingon arc missions; they have some great rewards for replaying them.
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can i play a klingon and get a sixty year old bird of prey and have an ability that forces the enemy player to shout PLASMA COILS into the mic fifty times before they can shoot back
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I can't decide between turrets and torpedos. On the one hand, torpedos blow **** up. Quickly. On the other hand, turrets shoot absolutely everywhere, and I'm not exactly the fastest thing around, and can't always get torpedos to bear.
Although I really want to do a reasonable reproduction of an Aeolus, and just PILE on the turrets for ****s and gigs on a cruiser or an escort.
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If you use a turret, use it on an aft slot, I do pretty good with one torpedo and one turret in the aft slots of my ships...
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Yeah, if you're gonna turret, slot it aft. Personally, I'm running an assault cruiser with 2 beam arrays/2 photon torps fore and 2 beam arrays/2 photon torps aft. Pretty much every end is pointy. Broadside beams tear up shields and I can always point one end towards the target and let loose with torps. My tac officer has spread shot and high yield, and I have two duty officers that have a chance to reduce my torp cooldowns. Considering that the photons already have an amazingly short cooldown, sometimes I'm just firing them nonstop. That's why I feel like I have pretty reliable damage, and I feel like I can project it more than adequately while still having the option to go defensive and soak a ton of damage. I love my cruiser.
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BTW Darius: I could only add you after i removed the 0 behind your nick...
That's my Cryptic account (which I kinda regret not using), the Perfect World system does some weird things to the tags and numbers.
Try @dariusbei00
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Just a thought, it anyone else "ageing" their characters? A bit after I reached LC, I decided I've been blown up enough, might as well add a scar. I plan on adding another when I make Commander, and possibly moving to the "aged1" complexion when I make captain.
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I usually start my characters out scarred in some fashion. Of course, no one will ever see that. :/
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@herratohtori
I've made a character...
His name is Jebediah.
(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5915/screenshot2012030102385.jpg)
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8728/screenshot2012030102412.jpg)
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He's not smiling. Your ship is about to get blown up pretty hard I'm afraid.
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Just a thought, it anyone else "ageing" their characters? A bit after I reached LC, I decided I've been blown up enough, might as well add a scar. I plan on adding another when I make Commander, and possibly moving to the "aged1" complexion when I make captain.
I kept revising the bio for a bit, and I know Alessia wanted to but was thwarted by the fact only certain textures work well with fake Romulans.
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can i play a klingon and get a sixty year old bird of prey and have an ability that forces the enemy player to shout PLASMA COILS into the mic fifty times before they can shoot back
important to my decisions going forward
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can i play a klingon and get a sixty year old bird of prey and have an ability that forces the enemy player to shout PLASMA COILS into the mic fifty times before they can shoot back
important to my decisions going forward
well imagination is a powerful thing my friend
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it is a thing transcendent in the way of flagellation and the fast to sit a trekkie down with star trek generations. a thing that sorts the true fan from the voyager fan
you see the true trekkie and you watch close his eyes as the star ship enterprise d the ship he has sperged over for seven seasons that graceful probert design in this wasteland of half-melted john eaves hot rods comes under attack by that bird of prey, federation flagship set against this ancient relic in a battle the trekkie knows in his heart is doomed to end in indignation and troi flying and that re-used shot from star trek six the undiscovered country
and you listen close as the trekkie tries to take command, to save his love
hear him cry: the shields, riker, remodulate the shields
return fire
return fire riker
attack pattern omega
fire all phaser arrays riker
riker stop talking about plasma coils
riker the torpedoes riker
riker the shields
remodulate
riker
in the ruins of the saucer section picard drops the kurlan naiskos and it shatters again and again forever like the uss bozeman
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Battuta is a Poettuta?
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I took out a cube with a single shot, it still had 90% health when I fired (other people were shooting it before I got there), I just came in and whacked it with a tricobalt torpedo. I tried it again, but the only thing that it killed that time was me.
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it is a thing transcendent in the way of flagellation and the fast to sit a trekkie down with star trek generations.
Generations as S&M tool. THANKS BATTS.
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Anyone else expiriencing strange errors?
By now, I'm verifying all game files...
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Anyone else expiriencing strange errors?
By now, I'm verifying all game files...
Yes, I was disconnecting frequently today, and hit a weird bug in a mission. And my brother's keeps crashing on him for no discernible reason.
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Just got duty officers.
brb head exploding.
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Hmmmm.... I just saw a Borg DS event spawn (right in front of me, no less), and it was already dead when I entered. :/
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Just got duty officers.
brb head exploding.
Their heads will do that too a lot.
I can tell you stories about this, like the time two of my doffs tried to realign a sensor array and they both died. As this is Star Trek, when I asked "wtf did the console they were pushing buttons on explode?" someone pointed out that it probably did.
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If you were to open a standard Starfleet panel up, I swear it'd be packed with bottle rockets.
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If you were to open a standard Starfleet panel up, I swear it'd be packed with bottle rockets.
Bottle rockets? With the way the explode and kill people, I'm thinking they build circuit boards out of hardened RDX or something.
One of my duty officers just died trying to "secure a prototype plasma torpedo unit." I can only imagine a tragic scenario in which the poor guy was involved in an accident falling off of a balcony with no handrail, because they didn't even get me a prototype. And thus, Darwinism reigns among duty officers...
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Strange, my duty officers are all well, only had two injured, but thats it^^
Edit: Just unloked 2 purple boxes...and got 2 junior cadre duty officer packs...great -.-
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Oh boy.
Explosive electronics weren't just for dramatic effect then. They're canonical, and made it into the game. :lol:
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Yeah, at least it made sense when I lost one on a security mission... But recalibrating the sensors? I guess they were scanning for biological samples, maybe they got mauled by a space bat or something.
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Edit: Just unloked 2 purple boxes...and got 2 junior cadre duty officer packs...great -.-
The purple box packs are actually really good in comparison to the standard stuff, with blue and green quality people guaranteed.
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I realized this as of now^^
This PvE events are also real fun, just made 2nd place in one and got a blue console, plus a nice amount of xp.
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It appears that Tour the Universe rewards are scaled.
Captain == 10,000 EC per block
Rear Admiral == 30,000 EC per block
::EDIT::
Well, that golden lockbox was a gyp. +20% cxp.
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Just now on the mission "The Kuvah'Magh I played on Advanced and screwed up and got two of those groups of small ships and a big ship after me at the same time and got beat down to 2% and managed to not die in the end.
Well at least I certainly felt like a badass, my ship all flaming and scored and ****. :)
Something else: I found out that ships don't blow up when they fly full speed into rocks like they do in SFC, and that makes me a bit sad.
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So...yours truly hit rear admiral...but which ship should I choose now?
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I made it to Rear Admiral a few days ago, I don't know why they'd give someone like me that promotion, guess they like my tendency to ram the guy that's about to kill me.
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So...yours truly hit rear admiral...but which ship should I choose now?
Depends. Which class etc.?
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Stick with the Sovvy honestly. Or the Prometheus/Gryphon. Or the Titan. Star Cruisers are a bit overrated and the extra tactical BOff slot is helpful in STFs. That said, I've really come to like the versatility of the Odyssey, even if it does turn like a 767 being pushed by a two year old, it's not THAT much bigger than the Soverign.
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Newest featured ep drops good doff pack, last bit of ground Dominion set and/or a Jem'Hadar bridge officer. Who is guaranteed to have Torpedo Spread 3.
Go grab your stuff, people.
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I chose a fleet escort...I simply have no use of four aft weapon slots.
Fore is all out heavy dual cannon, aft a torpedo launcher and two turrets...now try to hit me with targetable torpedos or mines :P
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Hmmmm.... I just saw a Borg DS event spawn (right in front of me, no less), and it was already dead when I entered. :/
I think it's a glitch with the instancing. roughly 1/2 the time I enter one of those red alerts it's already over.
But when you enter, them, it's a blast. Finally got my captain-tier ship, rolling with science to break up my sticking to cruisers, and all these funky abilities are baller. Grav well III + photonic wave is just sweet.
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Made Commander. USS Blackbody. I think I actually managed to make the Science ship not ugly.
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Made Commander. USS Blackbody. I think I actually managed to make the Science ship not ugly.
I didn't know there was a way to make it less nauseating. :P
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The slim front end ain't bad.
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I bought the Excelsior refit, after deciding that I'm probably gonna stick around. I did the "Everything Old Is New" mission six times for the blue phasers, and the new weekly episode gives a tac officer with nice torp abilities, so I filled the other slots with quantums. She's a deadly beauty, the U.S.S. Scootaloo. I really enjoy the STFs and the hourly events, especially tour the galaxy and the the mirror universe incursions. There's so much to do!
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There has got to be a better way to get dilithium than DOFF missions. x.x
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STFs = 480 per STF
Deferi and Academy dailies = ~2000
Remember, you can only refine 8000 a day.
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If you want dilithium, do War Zones. You'll rack it up VERY quickly.
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STFs = 480 per STF
If you get top DPS it gives you 720, I believe. (Hard to do without an escort spewing cannonfire.)
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Made Commander. USS Blackbody. I think I actually managed to make the Science ship not ugly.
I didn't know there was a way to make it less nauseating. :P
Well, for one thing, everything looks better in black:
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STFs = 480 per STF
If you get top DPS it gives you 720, I believe. (Hard to do without an escort spewing cannonfire.)
Nothing quite like a Odyssey class star cruiser with 8 beams, Nadion Inversion, EPS Power Tap and a Weapon Battery with Fire At Will running. For about 20 sec you are god.
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Made Lieutenant Commander.
(http://www.iaza.com/work/120306C/iaza16711163782900.jpg)
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Does the game actually take its own screenies? I can't tell and printscreen is barfing.
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Nevermind, the Derp is over.
We have the Luna-class Des Moines, the Prometheus-class Akizuki, and the Soverign-class Agincourt in Earth orbit. I'll let you sort out which is which.
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I feel the need to point out to everyone who plays this that the stats for Reverse Shield Polarity (I and II) are absolutely incorrect (1% of incoming energy damage heals shields, or something like that). IT IS FREAKING POWERFUL AND RENDERS YOU INVULNERABLE TO ENERGY WEAPONS FOR ITS DURATION.
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Ths U.S.S. Scootaloo, keeping Earth safe from...whatever.
(http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s455/RainbowDashWins/scootaloo.png)
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I'll let you guess the name.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v74/GenoStar/screenshot_2012-03-06-05-40-20.jpg)
I'm beginning to rethink my red colour schemes, though. They don't show up very strongly.
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Hit Lt. Commander, got myself a cruiser.
Tank tank tank.
On the Gorn Minefield fleet action, I can tank the aggro from an entire Frigate cluster at once. All two dozen of the ****ers.
Speaking of which, fleet actions are now one of my new favorite things. If the Gorn Minefield wasn't so bloody long I'd keep doing it for the blue gear.
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Hit Lt. Commander, got myself a cruiser.
Tank tank tank.
On the Gorn Minefield fleet action, I can tank the aggro from an entire Frigate cluster at once. All two dozen of the ****ers.
Speaking of which, fleet actions are now one of my new favorite things. If the Gorn Minefield wasn't so bloody long I'd keep doing it for the blue gear.
The Ker'rat Warzone takes a lot less time and you get more dilithium, if you can deal with the occasional Klink ambush. Usually, with tanky cruisers, they get bored and go away after a couple of minutes shooting at you and doing nothing. Fleet actions are a lot of fun, though. I like the mirror universe incursions, although it's annoying sometimes because people always cock up the bonus objective.
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Made it to lvl45 tonight, will try the first STFs today...
And my fleet escort still rips thruogh enemys with ease...hope to get a tier X all dual cannon front...
Edit: OMFG, just did the klink warzone several times...and killed the same klink several times in a row, 'cause this dumbass always focused on me, so I tanked him, another teammate backed my shields up...and I blasted him away :)
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Made it to lvl45 tonight, will try the first STFs today...
And my fleet escort still rips thruogh enemys with ease...hope to get a tier X all dual cannon front...
Edit: OMFG, just did the klink warzone several times...and killed the same klink several times in a row, 'cause this dumbass always focused on me, so I tanked him, another teammate backed my shields up...and I blasted him away :)
Check out the episode "Past Imperfect" in the Klingon arc. It gives some plasma-disruptor hybrid heavy cannons as a reward, and you can do it as many times as you like. The rewards scale with your level. The P-D hybrid stuff got a damage nerf last patch but they just went from stupidly overpowered to very good. The important thing is that it's free and the mission takes all of 10 minutes, although unfortunately you have to wait 30 minutes to repeat it. It's still an excellent option and doesn't involve grinding STFs or dilithium. Also the Klingon arc missions rule, although that might be because I love TOS and they're the missions that match the feel of TOS most accurately.
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This is good advice, unless you are flying a STF equipped ship with 3/4 borg set and a MACO shield, in which case you are mostly invulnerable already, providing you can use your repair skills properly.
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I just started with STFs, so the Past imperfect thing is a good advice.
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I've only been on a couple actual teams, though I think I'll start making them when I play now. Too bad I'm science, and it should really be the tanks that lead the way. It's annoying when you get ambushed by a klink when your teammates are off doing their own thing though.
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Avoid "The Cure" unless you already know that you can beat it.
Freaking overpowered so-and-so.
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Depends on which type it is. The Cure (Space) is easy, and fun to play. The ground mission is just absolute **** from start to finish.
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What makes a tank a tank?
My Fleet escort is a tank if it has support of a team...a cruiser can tank pretty much on its own...
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When people say "tank", they usually mean a crusier, because a cruiser has twice the HP of a science ship and 3x the HP of an escort typically. Cruisers also have more engineering console where the usual tactic is to either fit neutronium plating or mob specific plating so that you just ignore 50ish % of the incoming damage. My Odyssey for instance is perfectly fine hull-tanking everything except a uni-matrix or a tactical cube, provided I don't forget to use my skills. That said, a DS Science Vessel, with a character spec'd for maximum shield strength and the appropriate consoles is currently the best tank with something like 90k Shield HP.
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And what am I?
A damage dealer?
A rapid fire salvo usually strips most targets of its shields, but before I can fire my aft torpedos, the shields've recharged -.-
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I have my Engineering stations set for a heal, shield boost, and damage reduction. My Science station is a shield boost. I have my power set to full shields with high Warp Core efficiency skill for MOAR POWAH, and then I pull aggro from the fragile escorts and science ships. At the level of difficulty I play on (default), I can tank like half of the entire fleet action.
Two dozen frigates? NO PROBLEM.
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I go all power to weapons, my first engineer is shielding, the second repair, my science is jam sensors and tractor beam, my tacticals are two rapid fire, scatter fire, torpedo high yield and spread as well as two tactical teams...
THis gorn fleet action usually ends with me engaging severall frigate gruops at once and when I realize I'm drawing too much fire it is usually too late , which results in ramming speed and then selfdestructing...
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Yeah, those frigates are annoying. When I accidentally draw like too many, I just turn whichever direction there are fewest, hit the boost button, and manage shield/hull buffs until they stop shooting. I make it out probably three out of four times.
Then again, that tells you how spatially aware I am. Probably not a good quality for a ship captain.
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Kinda like what I did three or so pages earlier?
Just now on the mission "The Kuvah'Magh I played on Advanced and screwed up and got two of those groups of small ships and a big ship after me at the same time and got beat down to 2% and managed to not die in the end.
Well at least I certainly felt like a badass, my ship all flaming and scorched and ****. :)
I think the small ones were fighters. Makes sense because they were swarming all over me.
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Okay, internet went out as I was trying to post. I made a new character, it's up to a Lieutenant Commander now, i'm so happy that i'm done dealing with the sheer uselessness that the Miranda is. :)
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Avoid "The Cure" unless you already know that you can beat it.
Freaking overpowered so-and-so.
Cure Space ain't hard. Cure Ground (and Infected Ground) are ****ing madness.
The only ground mission worth doing is Khitomer Accord, and not least because you can get a Borg Bridge Officer out of it if you get the achievement. Otherwise, do spaces and warzones.
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I almost regret not getting an Escort now, after I switched back to my Light Cruiser to take a set of dual heavy cannons for a spin. I may only be a Lt. Commander, but jeebus a pair of Dual Heavy Plasma Cannons Mk. IV [DMGx2] lay the ****ing smackdown on the poor sod in the middle of my crosshairs.
I also finally found a reason to play Gorn Minefield. Everyone else sucks at it so bad that I get first place, and consequently ridiculous rewards such as the aforementioned heavy cannons.
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Thats why I have four dual heavy cannons on my fleet escort...rips through most shields with ease, but behold if the klinks jump you and you've no support and used most abilities...
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*Grumble* Science can't use cannons, So when I get them I just have to sell them.
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I love my cannons, nothing like vaporizing spheres with my fleet escort. :D
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Retsof, you could hand em over to me. :D
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A good use for your first 110k(thereabouts) dilithium is to purchase the 500 CPoints it takes to buy 2 character slots for your account. Then you can make that tactical character and see what you've been missing, as well as make that Klink so you can see the other side. Though I must say, my Orion babe is quite handy with a Bat'leth.
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Hm...somehow I had that Klink slot out of nothing...and now I'm cruising around with my Bird of prey^^
Edit: I found another bug...I retrained my gorn tactical officer...replace attack pattern beta with rapid fire 3...and got fire beams at will 3 ...and when I try to retrain him with rapid fire 3, the game says, he already got that skill...wtf?!
Edit2: After playing several missions I got the feeling the Klinks don't work right...bugged missions, my Ktinga cannot cloak...and so on.
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*Grumble* Science can't use cannons, So when I get them I just have to sell them.
Feedback Pulse. Return cannonfire to sender.
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The U.S.S. Kelpie on approach to DS9. Loaded up with plasma and tetryon cannons, and a Rare Mk V quantum torpedo launcher, plus a couple nasty surprises for any ships I overtake.
(http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/4661/screenshot2012030718185.th.jpg) (http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/4661/screenshot2012030718185.jpg)
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Nothing will convince me that my Excelsior refit with disruptor beams and plasma torpedoes isn't awesome. Dive bombing ships with heavy plasma torpedoes (it's what you get when you combine plasma torps with High Yield ability) is too fun, especially when they're suffering from the disruptor debuff. Tricobalts? We don't need no stinkin' tricobalts! Full broadsides are nasty enough, considering I have energy damage consoles and a constant 125 weapons power level. Plus, I have the option to go defensive. 13k shield quadrants, 53k hull, 30% resists to pretty much everything, and a lot of defensive cooldowns. It's not invincible, but you'd better bring friends. I will go down fighting to the last.
A typical scenario:
Klink - Ambush motha****a! :cool:
Me - Is that all you've got? :rolleyes:
Klink - :banghead:
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A typical scenario:
Klink - Ambush motha****a! :cool:
Me - Is that all you've got? :rolleyes:
Klink - :banghead:
A typical scenario (for me):
Klink - Ambush!
Me - Tetryon cannon spam! :mad2:
Klink - Why did he just stop shooting?
Me - A Skype call, of all times it could happen... :mad:
*Dies in a massive explosion as the duct tape reinforcement fails*
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Got a heavy cruiser, and my Tac officer decided to treat me to a grand old showing of the "Fire at Will" show, with a broad
wayside cast of six Mk. VI Phasers [DMGx2]. I fell in love with it instantly as I utterly demolished a division of frigates in something less than ten seconds.
Running with a 13% bonus to phaser damage, the best shield I can get at the moment, three consoles to boost shield energy, all of the passive abilities I can muster to increase shield strength, and then power set to full weapons, I feel like a deity cruising the battlespace.
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Yes
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Love the bulldozer the Klingons get at tier 5...big, ugly and dwarfs everything next to it.
Starfleet star cruisers aren't the biggest out there, but they damn well look pretty.
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That's pretty much what my Retribution is like except I'm using the Emissary's pylons.
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I like my Odyssey quite a bit. I wish I had some hull options with it though.
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I just got a MKV Plasma beam [crt] from a DOff mission last night, but haven't got a chance to test it yet. Also, I love my rear-mounted plasma torpedo and high-yeild ability. "Look at the coward, he's running away! After hi-... Oh, there's a huge ball of 'ruin my whole day' heading straight for my face..."
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Thats why you need another rapid fire option :P
How do I make a screenie wothout all those symbols?
I tried it with "print screen", but I didn't find the image -.-
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For my steam install I used prntscrn and I went into program files (x86)/steam/steamapps/common/star trek online/Star Trek Online/Live/screenshots
Without all what symbols? The HUD? I turned off the HUD in options or something. Or maybe there was a key to toggle it.
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By default, screenshots taken with prntscrn automatically remove the HUD for epic-er shots.
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I made a rather useless post earlier in the thread about a new character. That character is SolarNightmare (because i'm really creative when naming characters).
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I think I might join ja folks. I?m so friggin tempted...but the time..teh time!
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It doesn't take long to level. Esp. if you do the Mirror Universe events.
Hell, once you get duty officers you don't even have to be logged on to get levels.
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Quick, Emergency Power to Server! It may be wor-.... nope, the server's down again. :rolleyes:
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Well...
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It was intended as a joke, but the server is down for me. :)
Here's a piece of advice, DO NOT go to the ST:O Forums, that place reminds me of the pits of hell... or my closet.... Seriously though, Cryptic said something about putting an ETA of when the server would be going up, but I can't find it, it's 40+ pages of flame in less than 2 hours.
Edit: Almost at page 90 now, with maybe 3 useful posts out of that... I'm glad I signed up for this forum and not that one.
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I"ll never understand the propensity of people, particularly those that apparently don't speak english all that well, to absolutely lose their minds over not being able to access something as paltry as an MMO. They behave like an addict who can't get their hit. Maybe it's my ITJS showing itself, but I have a hard time having that reaction to ANYTHING long enough to take the time to make a forum post about it. But, at least it shows that the game itself has grown in popularity.
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Got my first critical success on a doff assignment.
I"ll never understand the propensity of people, particularly those that apparently don't speak english all that well, to absolutely lose their minds over not being able to access something as paltry as an MMO. They behave like an addict who can't get their hit. Maybe it's my ITJS showing itself, but I have a hard time having that reaction to ANYTHING long enough to take the time to make a forum post about it. But, at least it shows that the game itself has grown in popularity.
Oh dear Lord don't even talk about **** like that. It gives me nightmares of the lunatics you describe and I lose sleep for days on end.
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Back in the day when I played WoW, I was fairly active on my server's forums, but dear god the supernova of whining, QQing, kvetching, *****ing, pissing and moaning kept me away from the general forums. Now I pretty much avoid forums like the plague, the two notable exceptions being here at HLP and Equestria Daily. People whine about the dumbest things, especially when it's a property that's been around for a while. Unpleasable fanbases tend to develop.
Bit more OT: I've been having more and more fun on ground missions lately for some odd reason. I've got my whole away team decked out with TOS phasers. What are everyone's thoughts on the weekly episode, if you've done it?
I love the inside of the prison facility, I'm hoping it means we'll get some more interior environments to play around in, and for the people who like creating missions to use. The Jem'Hadar bridge officer is crazy good as well, and I just found the mission to be very fun to play, especially for a ground-based mission.
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It won't let me start the last mission in the episode for some strange reason. Still, I've enjoyed it greatly up until then, even if Operation Gamma did irritate me a bit. Until I ditched the torpedo launcher and phaser for a pair of plasma arrays. I'll probably end up replaying a few of those missions for the Jem'Hadar gear when I'm a higher level and it's scaled appropriately. I'm not a huge Trekkie, so the ultimate historical significance of this particular fleet was lost on me, but my friend was positively geeking out about it (big DS9 fan).
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Since starting to play I often spent huors reading in the memory Alpha wiki :)
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Damn you...now I ahve to start playing it..
Ugh..tempted to buy the Galaxy-X dreadnought.
(http://alexraptor.com/images/GalaxyX2.jpg)
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Damn you...now I ahve to start playing it..
Ugh..tempted to buy the Galaxy-X dreadnought.
I would recommend against it unless you have some personal or nostalgia reason. It handles like a slug on Xanax. The cannons are pointless if you can't keep them on target. Generally I think the Sovereign is more than good enough, although I did buy the Excelsior refit, because the Excel was my favorite ship as a kid. None of the pay ships are REALLY more awesome than the free ones. Some just have convenience benefits, mostly, like the Excelsior and its transwarp drives. I think the game did a pretty good job at avoiding pay-to-win.
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The Galaxy-X is a serious skill ship. They were quite common before f2p hit apparently, but now they're far outnumbered by Multivector Advanced Escorts, which are much easier to handle. I wouldn't recommend anybody buy one without a few weeks of handling a Star Cruiser or Exploration Cruiser under their belts.
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Damn you...now I ahve to start playing it..
Ugh..tempted to buy the Galaxy-X dreadnought.
I would recommend against it unless you have some personal or nostalgia reason. It handles like a slug on Xanax. The cannons are pointless if you can't keep them on target. Generally I think the Sovereign is more than good enough, although I did buy the Excelsior refit, because the Excel was my favorite ship as a kid. None of the pay ships are REALLY more awesome than the free ones. Some just have convenience benefits, mostly, like the Excelsior and its transwarp drives. I think the game did a pretty good job at avoiding pay-to-win.
There are times when I hate MMO balance ya know...
I LUV the Galaxy-X and it kicked so much ass in the show. Figures the in-game version would be weak in comparison.
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Damn you...now I ahve to start playing it..
Ugh..tempted to buy the Galaxy-X dreadnought.
I would recommend against it unless you have some personal or nostalgia reason. It handles like a slug on Xanax. The cannons are pointless if you can't keep them on target. Generally I think the Sovereign is more than good enough, although I did buy the Excelsior refit, because the Excel was my favorite ship as a kid. None of the pay ships are REALLY more awesome than the free ones. Some just have convenience benefits, mostly, like the Excelsior and its transwarp drives. I think the game did a pretty good job at avoiding pay-to-win.
There are times when I hate MMO balance ya know...
I LUV the Galaxy-X and it kicked so much ass in the show. Figures the in-game version would be weak in comparison.
Oh I wouldn't say it's weak. Like NGTM says, it's just difficult to handle. IF you can keep the cannons on target, it's great. In STFs or fleet action, you could probably find it easier to get away with if the enemies are focusing on someone else. A few people in my fleet have it and use it for STFs that we do. Try the original Galaxy (or some variant thereof), if you haven't already, and decide for yourself if you can stand flying it. Personally, I may love cruisers but I do like to have a little more maneuverability than that, so I didn't like the Galaxy in-game, and I got an assault cruiser instead of the star cruiser.
I personally think it's hideous, but I never liked the original Galaxy, either. :D
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Just played another STF, something with a gates and so on...after my mates managed to destroy the guardian, I focused on bringing down any borg ship trying to use the gate...worked just fine, untill an asshole decided it would be funny to lure three spheres to me. When I finished them, too much ships had entered the gate and we lost...****ing great man...
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... I keep forgetting what STF stands for...
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Special Task Force?
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Star Trek Fans
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... I keep forgetting what STF stands for...
does it really matter?
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By the way, I haven't been doing many solo missions and such, so feel free to shoot me a team invite if I'm on.
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Just got the Borg set from doing STFs, and I've gotta say, it's actually pretty interesting. Not sold on the shield thanks to its low capacity, but the set bonuses aren't bad, so I'll give it a few more trial runs. Having a tractor beam without having to have a bridge officer trained in it is nice. I do what the Borg do: deplete a shield quadrant, tractor beam the ship to make sure it can't turn away, and shove a heavy plasma torpedo into the hull. Nasty. ;7 Also constantly moving at warp 21 in sector space is nice.
The Twilight Sparkle in all of her Borgified glory:
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If feel like a noob asking this, but what exactly are STFs? Where do I get them?
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If feel like a noob asking this, but what exactly are STFs? Where do I get them?
Special Task Force. I think you have to be level 44 to start them. Anyway, they're ST:Os version of dungeons. General consensus is to avoid the ground ones, although your mileage may vary.
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What does one do with all the stuff gathered from scanning? I dumped it all in the bank so it doesn't take up space.
Also, the Memory Aplha tutorial missions. Where a guy named "Egg" wants me to deeliver some samples. WHERE TO? I checked all the logs and conversations, I don't know where I have to turn those samples in.
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Memory Alpha, in the Alpha Centauri sector block
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What does one do with all the stuff gathered from scanning? I dumped it all in the bank so it doesn't take up space.
They're used for crafting. If you don't want to do crafting, even the common materials sell for a pretty penny on the exchange. Or just send 'em over to me :)
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Was doing the latest feature episode and I'm kinda ambivalent about the Enterprise-F, mainly because I don't know what happened to the -E.
There was a hilarous moment where our escort driver, who'd spent most of the fight running away because being in the middle of a cloud of Jem'Hadar ships results in them exploding, got fed up. They hit Scatter Volley 3, Attack Pattern Omega 3, Attack Pattern Alpha 3, and turned around and roflstomped a pair of Heavy Escorts.
And then exploded when about three different volleys of Quantum Torps hit them, but it's an escort, what can you do?
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The new weekly episode was alright. The
spacewalk bit was a bit too long, in my opinion. It wore out its welcome. Also, it kinda sucks to do solo; Jem'Hadar ground troops and their incredibly cheap fake difficulty thanks to subspace mines are...frustrating. Second only to even cheaper, faker difficultier Borg ground troops. Also being thrown straight into the middle of the battle at the end was a bit annoying, especially since the aggro mechanics make no sense. I do absolutely nothing and immediately draw the fire of the dreadnought and both of the battleships. What? But, it was still satisfying to see an end to the conflict, and it was nice to shoot that smug douchecanoe Karu'kan in the face with my phaser sniper rifle.
The Jem'Hadar shield is REALLY nice. I finished off the set, got myself some polaron beams, and my ship has turned the color purple into a weapon.
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Ooh, I'm liking the purple.
I retrained my Science officer from Jam Targeting to Dampen Emissions, I now understand why the Klinks like sneaking up on people. Speaking of which, I unlocked my KDF slot, so I might start the new character... at some point.
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If it ends up like mine, you won't be able to until you unlock the next two character slots, which should cost about 110k to 120k dilithium.
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Ok i am Captain of the Botany Bay.
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What does one do with all the stuff gathered from scanning? I dumped it all in the bank so it doesn't take up space.
They're used for crafting. If you don't want to do crafting, even the common materials sell for a pretty penny on the exchange. Or just send 'em over to me :)
Well, once I join the HLP fleet, I can dump it all in the Fleet Bank.
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Bring some KDF to this thread:
Borgified Vo'quv/VOD'leh Carrier
(http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7766/borgvoqvod.th.png) (http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7766/borgvoqvod.png)
And its Gorn Science Captain:
(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8807/gornr.th.png) (http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8807/gornr.png)
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Do you guys get random people trying to friend you? I mean sure, I tend to be a friendly guy, but I don't understand how it could radiate through the computer without me saying a word. (also, for some reason I feel kind of bad to arbitrarily reject them...)
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Do you guys get random people trying to friend you? I mean sure, I tend to be a friendly guy, but I don't understand how it could radiate through the computer without me saying a word. (also, for some reason I feel kind of bad to arbitrarily reject them...)
O.O
Must be something in your username/handle.... ;)
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Do you guys get random people trying to friend you? I mean sure, I tend to be a friendly guy, but I don't understand how it could radiate through the computer without me saying a word. (also, for some reason I feel kind of bad to arbitrarily reject them...)
Reasonably often. They then never talk to me.
I don't get it either.
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I only accept people as friends whose names are in the other thread :)
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I now have a Galaxy.
Now I need more Polaron beams. NEED MOAR PURPLE.
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Well, the server just went down for me again. A thousand energy credits says the ST:O Forum is a flamefest right now.
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Likewise, though I won't take that bet because I'd really rather not enter that pit of hell unless I absolutely need to.
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Well, the server just went down for me again.
The amusing thing is their website claims it's up.
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That's strange. On the launcher they say it's down.
About three hours before it did go down I finally got my first ****ing tech piece from a ground mission.
Compare to the three techs and one prototype salvage picked up from space missions. I'll have a complete Mk.X Omega Force ground set wooo.
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I have to say, this game really abuses the Skinners Box effect.
That "Help Cadets at Starfleet Academy for dilithium rewards" event is pure evil. And you'll never get full 60 particle samples....
With 8000 dilithium a day (theorethical max, good luck getting that much, I'm lucky to get 2000), and 200 dilithium for 1 CP conversion, it would take a week to gather enough CP's for even the simplest 200CP purchases. Fascinating.
Oh, forgot to ask - a cardassian lockbox key ; does it have a fixed number of uses. Also, is stuff in the box random crap or relaly usefull, good stuff?
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I have to say, this game really abuses the Skinners Box effect.
That "Help Cadets at Starfleet Academy for dilithium rewards" event is pure evil. And you'll never get full 60 particle samples....
With 8000 dilithium a day (theorethical max, good luck getting that much, I'm lucky to get 2000), and 200 dilithium for 1 CP conversion, it would take a week to gather enough CP's for even the simplest 200CP purchases. Fascinating.
Oh, forgot to ask - a cardassian lockbox key ; does it have a fixed number of uses. Also, is stuff in the box random crap or relaly usefull, good stuff?
The only ones even worth considering opening are the gold ones. You can safely destroy the regular ones with no remorse.
I now have a Galaxy.
Now I need more Polaron beams. NEED MOAR PURPLE.
I just started using polaron beams with the Jem'Hadar set. 800 DPS per beam. My broadsides are pretty incredible; even though the proc isn't that special, it's worth looking into.
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The only ones even worth considering opening are the gold ones. You can safely destroy the regular ones with no remorse.
That's dissapointing. But I guess it figures. I only got regular boxes anyway..abotu 30 of them. Gonna put them on the exchange. Destroying them gets me nothing, at least this way I may get a few $$$.
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I think I've destroyed 10,000 of those, i have 3 gold ones sitting the bank waiting for keys, that said, the green ones do have a chance for a Runabout space pet...
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With 8000 dilithium a day (theorethical max, good luck getting that much, I'm lucky to get 2000), and 200 dilithium for 1 CP conversion, it would take a week to gather enough CP's for even the simplest 200CP purchases. Fascinating.
I can get 8k on my Admiral pretty fast. :) I currently have about 80k just sitting there, not doing anything.
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I can get 8k on my Admiral pretty fast. :) I currently have about 80k just sitting there, not doing anything.
:O
you are filthy rich!
80K dilithium is...only 400 Cryptic points. :doubt:... huh :blah:
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Oh, forgot to ask - a cardassian lockbox key ; does it have a fixed number of uses. Also, is stuff in the box random crap or relaly usefull, good stuff?
Interchangeable Antimatter Key. One use only, just like all the rest.
Anything besides a gold box is an exercise in frustrating yourself.
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Oh, forgot to ask - a cardassian lockbox key ; does it have a fixed number of uses. Also, is stuff in the box random crap or relaly usefull, good stuff?
Interchangeable Antimatter Key. One use only, just like all the rest.
Anything besides a gold box is an exercise in frustrating yourself.
Now that's just evil...
And you actually pay for a single-use key to get what? A small shield battery?
Thanks for the warning. Now I know to stay away from the key.
But WTF Cyrptic...WTF?
And why do those keys sell for 900.000 energy on the Exchange?????
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Because the gold boxes actually have decent stuff in them, mostly, and people buy the keys for gold boxes.
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Is anything in the gold boxes actually WORTH 900.000??
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So...gold is better than purple?
Out of my three purple boxes I got two blue duty officer packs and a strange 10k xp boost, which doesn't diminish...or I'm too stupid to use it o.O
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Is anything in the gold boxes actually WORTH 900.000??
The Galor (40mil or better last I looked). Console Requisition Pack, possibly (which drops consoles from pay ships, possibly ones from the other side of the Klink/Fed divide even). I have no idea what blue duty officers go for on the exchange, but stack one of those and some greens and they might be worth it too.
So...gold is better than purple?
Gold is purple. The gold boxes have the purple quality. (It's confusing, they just say Cardassian Lock Box - Gold, instead of Cardassian Lock Box, regulars have the green tint, golds the purple)
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But what about my 10k commendation boost? It just sits there and don't diminish...I have no clue what to do...
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But what about my 10k commendation boost? It just sits there and don't diminish...I have no clue what to do...
I have no idea. I assume it boost duty officer mission points somehow.
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Dont' you have to trun that boost on? I think there's a checkbox above your ship/character portrait.
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True enough trashman, but that's it.
I have I nice green bar, telling me I have the boost and that's it...nothing realy happens^^
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Jem'Hadar set + three shield distribution duty officers = incredibly, impossibly broken.
Seriously you can sleep through warzones or PVP, plus lag everyone out if somebody starts hitting you with cannonfire while you sleep through it. If Borg couldn't cheat and bypass shields with some of their abilities and torpedoes, they wouldn't stand a chance against you. There's something deeply wrong and hilarous about seeing escorts or science ships tank Tactical Cubes.
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I have a gold box. I don't think I'll be able to get to the point where I could actually use it to try to get a Galor (HAHAHA my luck is not that good) before the event is over...
but... I read about the lock boxes and apparently they stay after the event is over and master keys are used for other lock boxes as well so I could just wait until I got a key and open the gold box I suppose. Cool.
Thanks for the info on the regular lock boxes though. I have a stupid amount of them in my bank I need to get rid of and one precious gold one that I need to hoard.
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I can get 8k on my Admiral pretty fast. :) I currently have about 80k just sitting there, not doing anything.
:O
you are filthy rich!
80K dilithium is...only 400 Cryptic points. :doubt:... huh :blah:
I would also like to add that i'd have more if I wasn't trying to level my other characters up. :) I currently have my Admiral, my Klingon (that I ignore), a character that I modelled after my Admiral's tactical officer (and was so creative by naming it SolarNightmare), and then my elf. :cool:
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Jem'Hadar set + three shield distribution duty officers = incredibly, impossibly broken.
Seriously you can sleep through warzones or PVP, plus lag everyone out if somebody starts hitting you with cannonfire while you sleep through it. If Borg couldn't cheat and bypass shields with some of their abilities and torpedoes, they wouldn't stand a chance against you. There's something deeply wrong and hilarous about seeing escorts or science ships tank Tactical Cubes.
Yeah, I've been using the JH set. It's pretty good. The only thing I don't care for, as a cruiser captain, is the deflector array. I personally prefer structural integrity and shield system bonuses. For tanking ridiculous amounts of damage, it doesn't look much better than the Aegis set. I'm trying to save up the materials to have it crafted.
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I actually have an Aegis set, I've never been very impressed with it in comparison to Borg, to be honest.
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I actually have an Aegis set, I've never been very impressed with it in comparison to Borg, to be honest.
One thing I shall never do is put the Borg equipment and my elf together.
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I actually have an Aegis set, I've never been very impressed with it in comparison to Borg, to be honest.
Really? So it's one of those things that looks awesome in theory but isn't so awesome in practice? I do have the full Borg set already, and it's pretty nice for soaking damage if I can get a few procs from the shield regeneration. Plus, I do like the tractor beam, since I've found Science Team to be more useful to have my Science bridge officer trained in for almost all situations. The tractor beam is great for holding some hapless gob****e still while I slam a heavy plasma torp into his/her hull.
I actually have an Aegis set, I've never been very impressed with it in comparison to Borg, to be honest.
One thing I shall never do is put the Borg equipment and my elf together.
If you don't want to feel like you're using Borg tech, you can turn the visuals off. Not sure if you knew if that was possible or not; it's never exactly stated. You can also do it with armor and kits.
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Really? So it's one of those things that looks awesome in theory but isn't so awesome in practice? I do have the full Borg set already, and it's pretty nice for soaking damage if I can get a few procs from the shield regeneration. Plus, I do like the tractor beam, since I've found Science Team to be more useful to have my Science bridge officer trained in for almost all situations. The tractor beam is great for holding some hapless gob****e still while I slam a heavy plasma torp into his/her hull.
I have a cruiser, so as a general rule it's all the same to me when I can go "lol drop three abilities and tank a tac cube"; that said it also means I should live long enough for the resists to start stacking like crazy. The thing is, they're just not huge benefits to begin with, and I thinking the stacking may not be straight additive either. (It certainly doesn't seem when I have six stacked that incoming damage drops by 30%.) It could just be that the Borg set offers tangible, distinct benefits, whereas it's hard to prove at any one moment that your Aegis is working the way it should...but I remain dubious.
Mind, I'm not taking it off the Sovvie either, but that's because getting another set of Borg gear would chew up EDCs I'm saving for MACO.
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I ought to swap accounts with my friend while playing STF missions. While getting anything other than data chips is a chore for me, the game literally dumps Mk.XI tech on him every mission. :blah:
I do have the Mk.X Omega Force set though, so woot.
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I actually have an Aegis set, I've never been very impressed with it in comparison to Borg, to be honest.
One thing I shall never do is put the Borg equipment and my elf together.
If you don't want to feel like you're using Borg tech, you can turn the visuals off. Not sure if you knew if that was possible or not; it's never exactly stated. You can also do it with armor and kits.
I was referring to the tentacles on the Borg equipment, and i'm well aware of disabling visuals. :)
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I have just seen some... very interesting things at Drozana Station...
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I have just seen some... very interesting things at Drozana Station...
Bonnie-kin, Bonnie-kin, dressed all in red
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Really? So it's one of those things that looks awesome in theory but isn't so awesome in practice? I do have the full Borg set already, and it's pretty nice for soaking damage if I can get a few procs from the shield regeneration. Plus, I do like the tractor beam, since I've found Science Team to be more useful to have my Science bridge officer trained in for almost all situations. The tractor beam is great for holding some hapless gob****e still while I slam a heavy plasma torp into his/her hull.
I have a cruiser, so as a general rule it's all the same to me when I can go "lol drop three abilities and tank a tac cube"; that said it also means I should live long enough for the resists to start stacking like crazy. The thing is, they're just not huge benefits to begin with, and I thinking the stacking may not be straight additive either. (It certainly doesn't seem when I have six stacked that incoming damage drops by 30%.) It could just be that the Borg set offers tangible, distinct benefits, whereas it's hard to prove at any one moment that your Aegis is working the way it should...but I remain dubious.
Mind, I'm not taking it off the Sovvie either, but that's because getting another set of Borg gear would chew up EDCs I'm saving for MACO.
Ah, alright. I see what you mean. It's hard to attach numbers to things like that, since we don't really have combat log parsers. I really am hoping for a little more functionality in terms of modding for the game, mostly along the lines of interface clean-up/minimalization. I'd just like them to avoid putting in any kind of "gearscore" crap. But, that's kind of off-topic. I'm not really going that out of my way to get the Aegis stuff, so it won't be too much of a letdown if it's not as good as I thought. I like to have options when I open up my bank before an STF.
I have just seen some... very interesting things at Drozana Station...
If it's the mission where everything is dark and you have the future's most ineffectual flashlight: :banghead:
If not, I bet it's ERP.
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I have just seen some... very interesting things at Drozana Station...
If it's the mission where everything is dark and you have the future's most ineffectual flashlight: :banghead:
If not, I bet it's ERP.
Heh, wrong direction. There were female player characters (some in as little clothing as the game allows) dancing on the tables. It's kind of disturbing that people do that actually...
Funnily, I was working on that mission earlier, but PvP ques would make me restart the mission. (PvP is more fun, but less XP...)
Wait, what is ERP?
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It's kind of disturbing that people do that actually...
Welcome to the internet? This has been a thing since...WoW? Galaxies? Maybe even UO.
Chalk it up to boredom.
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I can't believe I did that. I picked up a Romulan Ale on one mission, but stuck it in my action bar to save inventory space. I went to remove it later, but forgot that I can't take items directly out of my action bar; I drank it instead. Then I checked the exchange to see them selling for 200k. :banghead:
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The only thing I consistently find annoying about this game is the bug in teh Starbase 24 fleet action that makes the 2nd wave of klink ships bunch up and steamroll everyone
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The only thing I consistently find annoying about this game is the bug in teh Starbase 24 fleet action that makes the 2nd wave of klink ships bunch up and steamroll everyone
QFT. When the counter rolls up toward 48 or so, I engage Evasive Maneuvers and GTFO the immediate area around the station until everyone regroups.
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Almsot reached rank of Commander. Heavy Cruiser or Heavy Escort? Akira or Cheyene?
Hurr...
That said, got a gold box...anyone want it?
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Lockboxes are bound.
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Question: Lvl 40 is coming up soon, and with it Mk X gear. Should I go tricobalt torpedoes or quantum?
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Almsot reached rank of Commander. Heavy Cruiser or Heavy Escort? Akira or Cheyene?
Hurr...
That said, got a gold box...anyone want it?
I'd go with heavy escort. The Commander cruiser was singularly unimpressive in its looks, and I didn't enjoy it near as much as the new Galaxy I have or the old Excaliber I used to use.
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You are basically asking if you want to fly the Stargazer or an Akira(no one mods it from the Akira frame very much because the other 2 free ones are hideous.)
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I'm kinda leaning for the akira...because CANNONS. Picked up some nice klingon disruptor cannons.
But heavy cruiser...4 nacelles. Bonus power to all systems...
That said, Cryptic is indeed devious. You only got 4 bridge officer slots and various ships have different bridge officer posts. So you HAVE to buy new slots in order to fill those.
I got 1 tactical, 2 engiener, 1 science officer....any my current ship has 2 science slots. Which I cannot fill.
Akira has 2 tacticals..which I won't be able to fill.
Good move Cryptic..good move. If only your micro-transactions actually were micro..
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Uh, you do realize you can requisition more bridge officers, right? And then have them join the crew when you switch ships? Without paying for it Cryptic points?
Also, number of nacelles means **** all when considering maneuverability. That heavy cruiser is a slug compared to the escort.
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Uh, you do realize you can requisition more bridge officers, right? And then have them join the crew when you switch ships? Without paying for it Cryptic points?
Tried, doesn't work.
Switching ships or not, I have a fixed amount of slots for bridge crew. No mucking about possible.
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Question: Lvl 40 is coming up soon, and with it Mk X gear. Should I go tricobalt torpedoes or quantum?
Personally, I don't think tricobalts are worth it. The CD is just too long, and since they're slow, it's too easy for your target to rotate and take the hit on a not-depleted shield quadrant and absorb it. You have no idea how frustrating it is to fire a 60 sec CD torpedo and either have it shot down or have it hit a shield and do basically nothing.
I actually prefer photons for most situations. Their raw damage isn't too much lower than quantums, and they have the lowest cooldown (and thus the highest DPS value). It actually does make a difference in the STFs when you're firing at a lot of high-value, unshielded targets. If I'm just fighting ships, I use plasmas. High Yield gives me all the fun of massive hits with heavy torpedoes without the absurd cooldown period of tricobalts, and unlike the near worthless plasma energy weapons, DoTs from the torpedoes stack. They also bypass shields, and benefit from the disruptor debuff if I happen to be using my disruptor beams.
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Question: Lvl 40 is coming up soon, and with it Mk X gear. Should I go tricobalt torpedoes or quantum?
Quantum probably. Tricobalts, despite their hilarious one-shot damage output, have incredibly long cooldowns and wide AoE effect. My escort-driver friend also claims the AoE mechanic has been recently rebalanced, resulting in some fairly bizarre behavior compared to previously and making them nearly unusable inside 4km.
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I use a tricobalt torpedo launcher, which explodes in several smaller mines.
Funny thing, it sometimes get shot down just in front of my little fleet escort.
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The Borg repair yard comabt zone (Kl'atu?) is heaviyl bugged.
Borge cubes stretching and expanding, various miniature borg ships that are untargetable (but can shoot you from 30 km rage..and them beign dispalyed as 0.2KM out--lol) Hillrious!
LVL19...just one more level to go for my Heavy Escort!
EDIt:
Duty officers are far more expsnsive than bridge officers???? WHAT GIVES???
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They're also much more useful, in the grand scheme of things. Your DOFFs give you ridiculous amounts of dilithium, can give you permanent buffs to your skills, and give you tangible and *not* small increases in combat effectiveness when on active duty.
In short, they're more expensive because they're more useful.
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I'm kinda leaning for the akira...because CANNONS. Picked up some nice klingon disruptor cannons.
But heavy cruiser...4 nacelles. Bonus power to all systems...
That said, Cryptic is indeed devious. You only got 4 bridge officer slots and various ships have different bridge officer posts. So you HAVE to buy new slots in order to fill those.
I got 1 tactical, 2 engiener, 1 science officer....any my current ship has 2 science slots. Which I cannot fill.
Akira has 2 tacticals..which I won't be able to fill.
Good move Cryptic..good move. If only your micro-transactions actually were micro..
Umm, not counting the one i sent over from my VA, I've got 3 bridge officers candidates i have no stations for atm. My VA has like 8.
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Uh, you do realize you can requisition more bridge officers, right? And then have them join the crew when you switch ships? Without paying for it Cryptic points?
Also, number of nacelles means **** all when considering maneuverability. That heavy cruiser is a slug compared to the escort.
Oh yes, the heavy cruiser handles like a 747 with the engines disabled. :P The good news is that i'm almost done with it.
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Oh yes, the heavy cruiser handles like a 747 with the engines disabled. :P The good news is that i'm almost done with it.
Wrong number, but now I'm inspired to go back and rename my Stargazer "USS Gimli Glider"
But then, if you think the Heavy is bad, just wait until you get a Galaxy.
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Even the ody handles better than that...
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It has the same turn rate actually. It handles "better" given that it's a larger craft but doesn't turn any slower.
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Yeah, I actually just kept using the Excelsior until I got the Sovereign because the Galaxy had such sub-par maneuverability. I felt like it wasn't worth it for what (mostly) amounted to one more fore weapon slot.
I'm actually saving up some dilithium to try out a fleet escort. I've got my polaron cannons ready and an extra tac officer trained in some cannon abilities. I know I'm an engineer, but it should be a fun diversion in STFs, where I usually avoid drawing attention anyway.
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To be fair, ships cost so much dilithium that you could buy 2 more character slots for what one costs. Then you could do a Tactical captain and a Science captain.
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If you want to avoid the Galaxy, get an Intrepid. It plays like a small cruiser, though it's not nearly as durable.
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Is it just me or is the Retro Phaser type 2 really OP?
Also, watching your BOffs to flying drop kicks off of crates does NOT get old.
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Strange to say, but while playing warzones and the like it happens to see fleet escorts with dual beam banks...quite a light show to se eight beams fire at will^^
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Is it just me or is the Retro Phaser type 2 really OP?
Also, watching your BOffs to flying drop kicks off of crates does NOT get old.
... Where do you see that? It sounds awesome. Wait, if that exits... (dreads the trailer scene with the funeral)
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Is it just me or is the Retro Phaser type 2 really OP?
Also, watching your BOffs to flying drop kicks off of crates does NOT get old.
The damage is nice on the type 2 phasers, but if you really want powerful ground weapons, try compression pistols.
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Strange to say, but while playing warzones and the like it happens to see fleet escorts with dual beam banks...quite a light show to se eight beams fire at will^^
You know, I think I'm going to have to mount one of those alongside my fore cannons, just to get a little more use out of my beam-fire-at-will. I've seen the sort of thing you're talking about with cruisers, it's neat.
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Don't do that, retrain something useful (like cannon rapid fire).
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Is it just me or is the Retro Phaser type 2 really OP?
Also, watching your BOffs to flying drop kicks off of crates does NOT get old.
The damage is nice on the type 2 phasers, but if you really want powerful ground weapons, try compression pistols.
Yeah, compression pistols are cool, but I've been noticing the Phaser 2s because they make the target disappear in a flash of blue light.
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Umm, not counting the one i sent over from my VA, I've got 3 bridge officers candidates i have no stations for atm. My VA has like 8.
CANDIDATES. I have 4 active bridge officers nad 4 candidates.
My whole point is about only being able to have 4 active ones. Regardless of what ship you use of how you switch, you can only select bridge officers from the active pool. And that pool only has 4 slots.
If I want to put one candidate in, I have to dismiss an active officer...or buy more slots.
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HArr....get a fleet going already! I got items I need to dump into the Fleet Bank...and I want to raid the bank.
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I've got 6 active on my VA. There are more slots available from the cash shop, but it's kinda pointless since the VA ships only have 5 BOff slots.
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I assume everyone in this game is a member of the HLP Steam group? Someone should just make an event. (preferably on a weekend or after 9:00 P.M. E.S.T. on a weekday)
If I'm available (see parenthetical statement above), I'll definitely hop on to help start a fleet.
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Yeah, nothing saves your day then have two tac officers who have the rapid fire, high yield and scatter torpedo skills :)
That's just sweet.
But it is odd to see the Defiant(that Defiant out of the DS9 missions) fire only beams, when it ought to have these sick quad cannons.
Or the new Enterprise F, which was playing dead most of the fight^^
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Truly, this game hates me.
I have to put forth thrice the effort to complete any ground STF in the presence of a full team of morons time and time again, only to get the most insulting rewards at the end of the mission.
And then I play Cure (Space) because of today's extra data chip and dilithium bonus.
I get a ****ing Common Engine Tech drop at the end of the first attempt.
And I already have the Mk.X M.A.C.O. and Omega Force engines.
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@crizza: That's pretty weird considering the Defiant in that mission has the BoP AI, I think, meaning it's competent to use cannons unlike most Fed Escorts. I certainly saw it enough.
The Enterprise, though, is incredibly slow moving but at least fires tricobalt torpedoes.
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Well, I think I figured out why I die so much on ground missions. I have been rushing in like a grunt. As Science, I should be hanging back, applying my abilities, and taking potshots with my sniper rifle.
Also, what's better? Buying a plasma torp and using my high-yield 1, while discarding my now bound Chroniton tactical console; or keeping the Chronoton torps and retraining my Tac-off with torp spread?
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Chroniton torps do a lot less damage than even a transphasic torpedo, which are broken atm. The movement debuff is very useful in PVP, but the NPCs mostly ignore it. Your best best is either quantums or photons.
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BTW I use a breen transphasic cluster torpedo launcher...pretty usefull...sometimes...
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Well, I think I figured out why I die so much on ground missions. I have been rushing in like a grunt. As Science, I should be hanging back, applying my abilities, and taking potshots with my sniper rifle.
Also, what's better? Buying a plasma torp and using my high-yield 1, while discarding my now bound Chroniton tactical console; or keeping the Chronoton torps and retraining my Tac-off with torp spread?
Chroniton torps do a lot less damage than even a transphasic torpedo, which are broken atm. The movement debuff is very useful in PVP, but the NPCs mostly ignore it. Your best best is either quantums or photons.
Yep. If you wanna snare, use warp plasma or tractor beams. Chronitons might actually be useful if the debuff was 100% chance (or a much stronger debuff, like the warp plasma), but 33% is just way too low a chance for how (relatively) rarely the torpedoes get fired and the debuff doesn't seem to make all that much of a difference. It's kind of a shame that the alternative torpedoes just aren't up to snuff, I'd like there to be more choice. Transphasics are especially terrible. That being said, plasmas actually aren't bad in my experience. HY makes them hit like a train and the DoT does bypass shields. The consoles even at VA are like a piddly 11k dilithium, so don't worry about those too much.
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I had a really weird experience this morning. I was doing a Klingon front mission, the Briar Patch one, solo. Even the Raptor Escorts were wiping the floor with me, they were depleting entire shield quadrants with just a couple disrupter shots. Even their photon torpedoes were killing my shields, and if I took just one torp to the hull without Brace for Impact on, I was toast.
It was really as if I was fighting at a higher level, like if the Klinks were still leveled to 50 from when I partied with LunarNightmare.
The Battlecruiser was an exercise in me exploding. Finally got it by zipping in behind, tractor beaming it, unloading every weapon with every buff and a weapons battery, then hiding behind an asteroid when the tractor beam ran out. And doing it again once my shields recharged to finish it off.
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Raptors can be pretty hairy.
Oddly enough Negh'Var Warships are a walk in the park compared to them.
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It was really as if I was fighting at a higher level, like if the Klinks were still leveled to 50 from when I partied with LunarNightmare.
:wtf:
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Had that happen with a friend of mine. We were doing the mission where you chase the Ferengi who stole the kemocite and you run into some orions. They were scaled to my VA, who was in a Conny refit so as to not completely out class the mission.
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Raptors can be pretty hairy.
Oddly enough Negh'Var Warships are a walk in the park compared to them.
The Negh'Vars, I think, are just way too sluggish to be viable combat ships. Even in a Sovvy, I basically get to completely dictate positioning and range, and, thus, pound them non-stop with torps. They're also easy targets for warp plasma.
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The NPCs are generally better at driving the midsize ships then the heavies, while the lights are...still lights.
This changes with some of the later opponents, mind. Mogais are deeply frustrating but D'Deridex are no walk in the park either, forcing careful range control. Keldon are better than Galors simply because they're really the same ship, only bigger and tougher, while the Hideki-class frigate (it's a frigate, not a fighter, though you might be confused by that when see them) is actually the most annoying and capable frigate in the game. Jem'Hadar ships go back to the pain being mainly in the midsize, but their heavies recently got tractor repulsors that bypass shields. Borg bring the heavy as pain, and so do Undine.
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This game really needs more and better endgame content. I'm not sure what's worse, the fact that I need to grind 40 EDCs for the next piece of my MACO Mk XI space set (the first piece having come from a rare Borg shield tech) or the fact that there's really not much better to do at VA50.
...Well I guess there's Terradome, but I'd rather pull my own teeth out with a pair of rusty pliers than play Terradome ever again.
The NPCs are generally better at driving the midsize ships then the heavies, while the lights are...still lights.
This changes with some of the later opponents, mind. Mogais are deeply frustrating but D'Deridex are no walk in the park either, forcing careful range control. Keldon are better than Galors simply because they're really the same ship, only bigger and tougher, while the Hideki-class frigate (it's a frigate, not a fighter, though you might be confused by that when see them) is actually the most annoying and capable frigate in the game. Jem'Hadar ships go back to the pain being mainly in the midsize, but their heavies recently got tractor repulsors that bypass shields. Borg bring the heavy as pain, and so do Undine.
Mogais aren't that hard. They take forever to kill, but they can't one-shot you from 100% hull like the D'Deridex can.
Also the Borg are painful in pretty much every form except probes and basic drones. It's like Cryptic sat down and tried to come up with the cheapest, most irritating, annoying, and unfair opponents possible, especially in Infected, where you can have Borg ships giving you three different shield debuffs at once. And since I have the Aggressive trait on my captain they all aggro on me first (this made the end of Boldly They Rode...interesting).
Since everyone is posting their ships, meet the USS Actium, a Fleet Escort with two Antiproton Dual Heavy Cannons, two Antiproton Beam Arrays, an Antiproton Dual Beam Bank, an Antiproton Turret, two Quantum Torpedo launchers (fore and aft). With the weapon power console and my skill setup, I get around 200 weapons power at the beginning of an alpha strike.
(http://is100.imagesocket.com/images/2012/03/15/2453463-ri8b.png)
I love how brutal this ship looks. It looks like a compact, no-nonsense warship for blowing people to bits rather than an exploration luxury liner like the Enterprise. And with two RCS consoles it gets 37 deg/s turn rate, which is a revelation compared to my other ships (the Odyssey-class USS Resolute, and Star Cruiser USS Imperieuse).
Until I ditched the torpedo launcher and phaser for a pair of plasma arrays.
Good lord, why would you do that? The torpedo launcher is the only real firepower a shuttle has. I always put a Mk XI rare torpedo launcher on a shuttle (the standard shuttle equipment is garbage), as well as the polaron beam array from Operation Gamma (and a dual bank in my inventory to switch to when I don't need a full firing arc) and the complete Jem'Hadar set.
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I had a really weird experience this morning. I was doing a Klingon front mission, the Briar Patch one, solo. Even the Raptor Escorts were wiping the floor with me, they were depleting entire shield quadrants with just a couple disrupter shots. Even their photon torpedoes were killing my shields, and if I took just one torp to the hull without Brace for Impact on, I was toast.
It was really as if I was fighting at a higher level, like if the Klinks were still leveled to 50 from when I partied with LunarNightmare.
The Battlecruiser was an exercise in me exploding. Finally got it by zipping in behind, tractor beaming it, unloading every weapon with every buff and a weapons battery, then hiding behind an asteroid when the tractor beam ran out. And doing it again once my shields recharged to finish it off.
Simialr thing happened to me. Did a war zone and went to re-play the "Bodly They Rode" missions. The Jem'hadar were killing me like me shields were made from tissue paper. I had no trouble completing hte mission the first time... I did get promoted tough..
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Note to self: Remember to switch OUT of your shuttlecraft before doing the last DS9 mission, next time.
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Until I ditched the torpedo launcher and phaser for a pair of plasma arrays.
Good lord, why would you do that? The torpedo launcher is the only real firepower a shuttle has. I always put a Mk XI rare torpedo launcher on a shuttle (the standard shuttle equipment is garbage), as well as the polaron beam array from Operation Gamma (and a dual bank in my inventory to switch to when I don't need a full firing arc) and the complete Jem'Hadar set.
Because I only use the shuttle *for* operation gamma and a quick RoF and 360 degree firing arc is much more important? If I actually want firepower, I'll be using my cruiser.
Note to self: Remember to switch OUT of your shuttlecraft before doing the last DS9 mission, next time.
Yes, this is an unfortunate (although hilarious) way to die repeatedly.
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Having some beams alongside your cannons I think is a good idea. Beam Overload does some serious damage.
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In the end, there really wasn't any point in getting the Odyssey requisition box last month.
It's **** compared to the three you can buy now. At least the new ones have the two Universal slots that the first was supposed to have.
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OH SH--
(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/487752896010414644/E210552E63EE95E0ED3BD1291947D5C515AB815A/)
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Wait, the mission or the duty officer disaster? They're both pretty bad. :lol:
Edit: OH MY GOD READY THE AIRLOCK!!!
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Having some beams alongside your cannons I think is a good idea. Beam Overload does some serious damage.
Yes, having a weak torpedo with a very slow cooldown is very good, everyone should do it, it would make my time in Ker'at much easier.
At least a Tricobalt does 15k-20k consistently for the same cooldown.
OH SH--
(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/487752896010414644/E210552E63EE95E0ED3BD1291947D5C515AB815A/)
TRIBBLES ON THE BRIDGE.
VENT THE SHIP TO SPACE, IT'S THE ONLY WAY.
I always loved that Tribble disaster is basically a Dwarf Fortress catsplosion.
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Well there's your problem, sir. You gave a Caitian the task of breeding small, furry, likely delicious creatures.
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Having some beams alongside your cannons I think is a good idea. Beam Overload does some serious damage.
Yes, having a weak torpedo with a very slow cooldown is very good, everyone should do it, it would make my time in Ker'at much easier.
At least a Tricobalt does 15k-20k consistently for the same cooldown.
Yeah, it's not like the weapon can't fire during the ability cooldown. Oh wait, it can, and its damage is excellent with double the firing arc of the dual cannons. And it doesn't miss as easily as a torpedo, and does tremendous damage to shields. I personally find beam overload to be a great part of an opening alpha strike as, unlike cannons or torpedoes, the damage is instant, and it can help burn away a shield quadrant immediately to let a torpedo salvo through on the first pass. Plus, you know, it looks cool, and sometimes if it looks awesome enough I don't really care what its stats are.
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OH SH--
Playing with genes is legal now in the Federation?
I could have sworn all those other missions kept telling me how illegal and eeeevul is was. Then again, this is ST...
Oh..
Tribble genetic tampering?!?!? :eek2: :eek2: May God have mercy on us!
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OH SH--
Playing with genes is legal now in the Federation?
I could have sworn all those other missions kept telling me how illegal and eeeevul is was. Then again, this is ST...
Oh..
Tribble genetic tampering?!?!? :eek2: :eek2: May God have mercy on us!
I don't think that he'll save us from this hell... so let's just blow it away... :D
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*grumble* why does this game spam me with canons? I'd much rather get something I can actually use from loot and missions. Or at least sell in a not-flodded market.
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I?m currently running an All-offense, all cannon (turrets in rear) heavy escort. The damage output is GLORIOUS
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I?m currently running an All-offense, all cannon (turrets in rear) heavy escort. The damage output is GLORIOUS
Wait until you see the damage my fleet escort can release with its cannons. :) Escorts should be on the offensive, those that try going on defense in them are what we call "screwed".
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I?m currently running an All-offense, all cannon (turrets in rear) heavy escort. The damage output is GLORIOUS
I tried turrets, like that, but the damage from turrets is pretty pitiful. I decided that I got much better results by loading 1-2 beam arrays and a torpedo launcher in the rear slots instead: Charge at target -> fire everything -> when too close to do much more, turn to the side and let your rear firing things pound away a bit -> around 5km, about-face and repeat. If he follows you, you'll be spreading incoming damage to your ship over 2-3 shield sections, and all your firepower will be focused against one of his.
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I?m currently running an All-offense, all cannon (turrets in rear) heavy escort. The damage output is GLORIOUS
I tried turrets, like that, but the damage from turrets is pretty pitiful. I decided that I got much better results by loading 1-2 beam arrays and a torpedo launcher in the rear slots instead: Charge at target -> fire everything -> when too close to do much more, turn to the side and let your rear firing things pound away a bit -> around 5km, about-face and repeat. If he follows you, you'll be spreading incoming damage to your ship over 2-3 shield sections, and all your firepower will be focused against one of his.
I use turrets to shoot down torps, that's the only thing they're good for.
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Turrets count as cannons, so they are affected by Rapid Fire and Scatter Volley. Add this to the fact that they can fire in the same forward arc as your main armament, where a beam array cannot, and that's why their more desirable. Still doesn't explain why they are 5x the price they were a month ago on the exchange though.
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Eh, I think it market is crazy right now because, as far as I can tell, the game is still gaining momentum. F2P is always a huge change, but it seems like I see more people every day. Might be because people are getting convinced by word of mouth to ignore the crappy reviews from years ago. With people focused on leveling up and gearing themselves out, there's probably not enough crafting going on to support the economy. Hopefully it'll all level out.
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I use cannons with my dual phaser banks on my cruiser 1) because I wanted a Galaxy and an escort at the same time and couldn't make myself pick the escort, and 2) because nothing else overlaps with the forward firing arc for dual phaser banks.
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I just got a Galaxy class cruiser. I swear to god, this thing is more nimble than my Heavy Escort! Weird....
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Yes. Very weird. The Galaxy is a slug. You must have everything specc'd perfectly for speed and maneuverability or something. Or all power engines.
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Actually no..normal specc'd.. stationary. Weird. It's behaving sluggish now. I'm kinda underwhelemed by the Galaxy.Then again, It's not equipped that well yet.
The Heavy Escort (U.S.S Phoenix) is a damage dealing monster. Heh..I'll probably get rid of all the torpedo launchers...or sumtin'. Or go all torp?
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I can't stop thinking of "fire at will" as "Beam-Free-All"
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Something tells me a full phaser/dual phaser setup for the Galaxy is the best bet.
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I just got a Galaxy class cruiser. I swear to god, this thing is more nimble than my Heavy Escort! Weird....
:eek2:
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The galaxy beign nible is definately a one-time glitch.
anywhoo, I spent today hunting for equipmetn for my twoships. My Heavy Escort now packs tripple dual heavy tatryon cannons (wiht extra damage) and 3 +15% teryon damage consoles. And one plasma and one tetron turret in the back. My two tac officers have cannon rapid fire and cannonsalvo,my engineer has aux power to weapons, and I'm stocked on aux power, shield and weapon batteries.
If It turn all of it on, my damage output becomes unholy. Alas, I don't have much in terms of durability.
My Galaxy - I decked it out with dual phaser banks and photon torpedos. Would plasma be better?
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Isn't the Tac console on the right for cannons?
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That's me.
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How are people getting the range boosts I keep seeing?
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How are people getting the range boosts I keep seeing?
Which range boosts are you talking about? I haven't logged on much lately thanks to painkillers; is it some new thing?
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How are people getting the range boosts I keep seeing?
I believe you speak of the magical LagMonster.
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Hm...I got my first five EDCs and wonder what I should do with them...save them or buy the first weapons etc.
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If you're like me you're better off saving them for the set you want, if you want one of the sets anyway.
I got Common Armor Tech as an act of mercy, and bought the shield and weapon of the same Mark.
If I'm lucky I'll be able to get a Rare Armor Tech at the least, then use the 80 chips I need for the next shield and weapon.
Though I could try getting the shield tech as well, I'm not lifting a finger to try getting weapon tech. **** Cure Ground.
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As an aside, before you guys get neck deep in figuring out which set you want, Cmdr Roxy has a set that costs 15 EDCs and 3/4 pieces of it are VERY desireable from a survivability standpoint, just look under her General Merchandise store.
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Yeah, get the Borg set and then you can start saving up for MACO or Omega Force, use Salvage for weapons.
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EDCs?
On another note, I found a way to get rid of all the R&D hassle. I just dumepd all of my research/crafting materials on Retsof. Easier to build up one person to high levels of craftsmanship than 1 person.
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Encrypted Data Chips that you pick up as STF rewards, or sometimes in the middle of a STF as a drop (If you can get it during the Need or Greed phase that is).
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This thread has convinced me to try it out...so I am :)
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This thread has convinced me to try it out...so I am :)
And another one joins! Bwahaha. :lol:
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If retsof wants, he can have all my R&D stuff...half of my bank acc is full and as of now I don't even scan the anomalies...
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This thread has convinced me to try it out...so I am :)
And another one joins! Bwahaha. :lol:
Hahah :) Installed it today but absolutely no time to play it yet. Such is life these days! I'll give it a whirl sometime this week and see if I can link up with some of you.
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This thread has convinced me to try it out...so I am :)
And another one joins! Bwahaha. :lol:
Hahah :) Installed it today but absolutely no time to play it yet. Such is life these days! I'll give it a whirl sometime this week and see if I can link up with some of you.
I haven't been on much lately, either, due to health reasons, but if you see me on (I'm on "the list" in the other thread), give me a shout and I'll gladly do the Klingon arc missions with you; I love them.
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I haven't been on much lately, either, due to health reasons, but if you see me on (I'm on "the list" in the other thread), give me a shout and I'll gladly do the Klingon arc missions with you; I love them.
I detest the last few missions of the arc. Time-travel? Guardian of Forever? ****ty explanation for why klingons in TOS didn't have forehead ridges? (why the **** does that need explanation???? Technical and budget limitations!) Also, name-dropping. Name droping EVERYWHERE. And Ku'mavagh. The arc started so promising.
I find the foundry missions far better to that one.
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If you can't handle Star Trek references, you might perhaps be in the wrong game.
Since, it's, y'know, a Star Trek game.
(Also the ridges thing is actually mildly clever, as it plays upon things that were actually commented on and established in DS9 and Enterprise but whose significance was not discussed.)
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If you can't handle Star Trek references, you might perhaps be in the wrong game.
Since, it's, y'know, a Star Trek game.
(Also the ridges thing is actually mildly clever, as it plays upon things that were actually commented on and established in DS9 and Enterprise but whose significance was not discussed.)
IT's garbage
A thing that doesn't need explaining turned into a HORRIBLE explanation. All that they had to say way "Klingons always had ridges". And that's it.
but noo..they hade to go with the STUPID DS9 plto and the STUPID VOY plot about the klingon savior....
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star trekkinnnnnnn
across the universe
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Eh, it's all opinion. I, personally, enjoyed the Klingon arc and I also like The 2800 featured series, especially the prison mission. The arcs I really don't like are the Undine and Borg arcs, and I really only dislike the Borg arcs because ground combat against the Borg is bullcrap thanks to having to remodulate every 5 seconds.
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The prison mission was actually the second worst of the lot (not saying they're terrible), imo. Seeing all of the heavy security was sweet, but the 'person who's seen everything a million times' inside me figured out that it was going to turn lame far before it did.
Also, lmao at the "choice" you're given.
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Aside, I love having purple engine trails.
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The prison mission was actually the second worst of the lot (not saying they're terrible), imo. Seeing all of the heavy security was sweet, but the 'person who's seen everything a million times' inside me figured out that it was going to turn lame far before it did.
Also, lmao at the "choice" you're given.
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Aside, I love having purple engine trails.
I think I just liked it because I liked how the inside of the prison looked.
On a note slightly related to your last statement, we should really get to choose our base impulse engine and nacelle color. Would do a lot for diversity.
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(Also the ridges thing is actually mildly clever, as it plays upon things that were actually commented on and established in DS9 and Enterprise but whose significance was not discussed.)
That Enterprise two-parter was really good stuff, too. If only Manny Coto had been running that series from the beginning... :(
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Aside, I love having purple engine trails.
You love having broken shield buffs too, amirite?
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Eh, it's all opinion. I, personally, enjoyed the Klingon arc and I also like The 2800 featured series, especially the prison mission. The arcs I really don't like are the Undine and Borg arcs, and I really only dislike the Borg arcs because ground combat against the Borg is bullcrap thanks to having to remodulate every 5 seconds.
The Undine arc felt...unfinished to me, they wimped out at the end and blamed it on the Iconians, which apparently are coming back as a big bad after 5000 years or something.
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Eh, it's all opinion. I, personally, enjoyed the Klingon arc and I also like The 2800 featured series, especially the prison mission. The arcs I really don't like are the Undine and Borg arcs, and I really only dislike the Borg arcs because ground combat against the Borg is bullcrap thanks to having to remodulate every 5 seconds.
The Undine arc felt...unfinished to me, they wimped out at the end and blamed it on the Iconians, which apparently are coming back as a big bad after 5000 years or something.
They actually foreshadowed the Iconians in the DS9 episode. Me thinks they will be appearing sometime in the near future.
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The only problem with doing the 2800 at Commander rank is that all this lovely gear I'm getting will be outdated by the time I hit Captain :(
And the rewards are time limited only too, aren't they? The 2800 arc will be disappearing if I understand it correctly, so I won't be able to get the Jem'Hadar Ship and Ground Combat sets for my Vice Admiral :(
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They actually foreshadowed the Iconians in the DS9 episode. Me thinks they will be appearing sometime in the near future.
They've been foreshadowing them since the Romulan arc, tbh. There's stuff in the code about an Iconian STF that's not active, I'm told.
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LVL40.
Could decide what ship to take, so I took the (custom) Sovy in the end. Now I'm having seconds thoughs..should have gone for Fleet Escort (I luv DPS...but my Heavy escort is luvely)
Gonna deck the Sovy with plasma torps and see how it goes.
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The only problem with doing the 2800 at Commander rank is that all this lovely gear I'm getting will be outdated by the time I hit Captain :(
And the rewards are time limited only too, aren't they? The 2800 arc will be disappearing if I understand it correctly, so I won't be able to get the Jem'Hadar Ship and Ground Combat sets for my Vice Admiral :(
I believe that the part that is going away is Gamma DOff box. The other rewards will remain in place.
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The only problem with doing the 2800 at Commander rank is that all this lovely gear I'm getting will be outdated by the time I hit Captain :(
And the rewards are time limited only too, aren't they? The 2800 arc will be disappearing if I understand it correctly, so I won't be able to get the Jem'Hadar Ship and Ground Combat sets for my Vice Admiral :(
I believe that the part that is going away is Gamma DOff box. The other rewards will remain in place.
Ah, I did wonder if that was the case, but a friend of mine stated otherwise - I did wonder if he'd got the wrong end of the stick (because that happens fairly often tbh)
That's fine, I love me a set of purple ship gear :3
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The only problem with doing the 2800 at Commander rank is that all this lovely gear I'm getting will be outdated by the time I hit Captain :(
And the rewards are time limited only too, aren't they? The 2800 arc will be disappearing if I understand it correctly, so I won't be able to get the Jem'Hadar Ship and Ground Combat sets for my Vice Admiral :(
I believe that the part that is going away is Gamma DOff box. The other rewards will remain in place.
They already took away the shroud and recipes (I noticed they were gone when I went to get them on my Klingon-side character).
Now, what I want to know is, can you get the one-time items (the badass shield, for instance) again if you destroy the one you have?
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Has there been any progress on forming an HLP fleet btw?
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No..there's almost no one on-line. I got everyone on the list on the front page, but I've seen 2 people on at most.
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Using the foundry to create missions requires a purchase???? Really Cryptic? Really?
Foundry missions are the best part of this game, you have othe poeple make it for you..and you want to charge them??? That is just so low...
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Speaking of Foundry Missions - check out RogueEnterprise's missions and the Overture series
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No..there's almost no one on-line. I got everyone on the list on the front page, but I've seen 2 people on at most.
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Using the foundry to create missions requires a purchase???? Really Cryptic? Really?
Foundry missions are the best part of this game, you have othe poeple make it for you..and you want to charge them??? That is just so low...
I don't think you comprehend, it doesn't cost anything extra to play foundry missions. Only if you want to use the foundry to create one. And it's a one time fee from the CStore, of it you are a subscriber.
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If you can't handle Star Trek references, you might perhaps be in the wrong game.
Since, it's, y'know, a Star Trek game.
(Also the ridges thing is actually mildly clever, as it plays upon things that were actually commented on and established in DS9 and Enterprise but whose significance was not discussed.)
IT's garbage
A thing that doesn't need explaining turned into a HORRIBLE explanation. All that they had to say way "Klingons always had ridges". And that's it.
but noo..they hade to go with the STUPID DS9 plto and the STUPID VOY plot about the klingon savior....
What else were they going to do? The damage was already done. The ass was already pulled. All they did was fill in a few more blanks.
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Surely TrashMan much prefers inexplicable retcons. Those always leave the fans happy! :D
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Well, he certainly prefers bad torpedo procs. :p
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TBH, Trek is all about strange phlebotinum, improbable science, technobabble and ridiculous plots. I never took it too seriously, and my physics knownledge didn't helped. But it's a part of it's charm. I personally found the whole plot with Klingon ridges very fitting into the universe.
As for the game itself, I downloaded it and played for a bit. It's a bit on a slow side, space combat system is somewhat inferior to that of Bridge Commander (though somewhat more Trekky) and the ground one is rather generic. Overall, the whole game fits the Star Trek style. I also like how vast it is.
Maybe I just didn't figure it out, but I see no reliable way to gain money and drops (well, drops that actually sell for something) at a steady rate, as the drops are either lockboxes or artifacts, which don't sell for ECs. I don't know what to do with the latter and I'm not paying for keys for the former.
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TBH, Trek is all about strange phlebotinum, improbable science, technobabble and ridiculous plots. I never took it too seriously, and my physics knownledge didn't helped. But it's a part of it's charm. I personally found the whole plot with Klingon ridges very fitting into the universe.
As for the game itself, I downloaded it and played for a bit. It's a bit on a slow side, space combat system is somewhat inferior to that of Bridge Commander (though somewhat more Trekky) and the ground one is rather generic. Overall, the whole game fits the Star Trek style. I also like how vast it is.
Maybe I just didn't figure it out, but I see no reliable way to gain money and drops (well, drops that actually sell for something) at a steady rate, as the drops are either lockboxes or artifacts, which don't sell for ECs. I don't know what to do with the latter and I'm not paying for keys for the former.
The lockbox issue should disappear pretty soon. As for money, when gear does start dropping, you can sell gear to other players via the exchange, or replicate the mass produced crap for EC. Dilithium tends to be a mission reward, especially for Duty Officer assignments when you unlock your roster.
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Simply reprocessing a lot of low-end gear you can't use will make you some money. I did that up until Mark X gear started dropping, because the sell prices weren't much better.
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Surely TrashMan much prefers inexplicable retcons. Those always leave the fans happy! :D
I prefer retcons if the end result is better. DS9 fraked it up big time. It should have been retconend out of existence. Just like the abortion that is the new ST movie. But evidently the license holders went on with the insanity.
Maybe I just didn't figure it out, but I see no reliable way to gain money and drops (well, drops that actually sell for something) at a steady rate, as the drops are either lockboxes or artifacts, which don't sell for ECs. I don't know what to do with the latter and I'm not paying for keys for the former.
Kerrat war zone. Go to DS9 and grab the Klingon Looters mission. You can repeat the mission any time you want. You get decent loot every time you play a a War Zone. Fleet missions usually have nice rewards (gorn minefield, Starbase 24)
Then you sell it on the exchange.
For XP - daily Borg encounters and Mirror Universe invasions. 5x XP boost for every ship destroyed.
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For Energy Credits:
Hang on to every food item you pick up until you can check their price on the exchange. Some of them, seemingly randomly, are worth quite a bit of money.
All components are easy to sell for a profit, and sometimes regenerators.
Common, Uncommon, and sometimes Rare ground equipment you're usually better off selling to the NPC.
Much of the common space equipment (deflectors, shields, consoles) make you more selling to the NPC, though some stuff goes really well on the Exchange (quantum torpedo launchers, phaser beam arrays, some phaser heavy dual cannons)
Don't forget to sell off new Bridge Officers if you won't be needing them for your crew or for training!
Weapons and Shields Batteries also well pretty well.
Even materials for crafting (data samples and junk) sell for hundreds to thousands each, depending on what it is.
You can get about half of an item's stated value when selling to an NPC, but only a bit more than a third if you recycle it through your replicator.
MORE: The Jem'Hadar stuff, if you got it at a lower level and don't need it anymore, has a huge stated value if you choose to NPC it.
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I belive the Jem Hadar shields are 100.000K.
I might do the mission again.
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Energy creds...tbh, I sell everything just to the replicator and I have too much money, although I don't play much these last days.
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Yeah, as a couple of people have already suggested, war zones and fleet actions will get you nice gear to sell (and dilithium). Pay extra attention to shield arrays and deflectors, as they oddly seem to sell for the most scratch.
I haven't found a pressing, urgent need for energy credits, besides for customizing stuff. If you need gear, there's almost always a mission you can replay somewhere that will give you nice stuff, or you can use dilithium. It's only at admiral that dilithium stuff gets expensive, unless you want a ship.
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I'll think about buying the Defiant refit or the...how is she called...the ship which can...that Prometheus thing...damn...never try to talk about Star Trek if you're drunk...
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I actually picked up extra EDC drops and Rare Borg Salvage? I was awarded Rare Borg Armor Tech at the end of the mission?
What madness is this? The world must be ending.
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I'll think about buying the Defiant refit or the...how is she called...the ship which can...that Prometheus thing...damn...never try to talk about Star Trek if you're drunk...
The Multi-Vector Advanced Escort.
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I'll think about buying the Defiant refit or the...how is she called...the ship which can...that Prometheus thing...damn...never try to talk about Star Trek if you're drunk...
The Multi-Vector Advanced Escort.
Exactly.
You're my hero NGTM-1r ;)
Pros and cons please^^
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MVAE
Pros: Easy to use. Lieutenant Commander Science slot. Multi-Vector Assault Mode Console can be transferred to a standard Multivector escort if you prefer the Tactical Lieutenant Commander slot. Player-controlled sub-ships are extremely maneuverable, have excellent stationary turn rate enabling you to keep cannons on a mobile target without being forced to make passes at it (very useful on Khitomer Accord and Cure). Pets can be destroyed without affecting ability of player to continue to fight.
Cons: Sub-ship pets are very fragile, go down easily when faced with serious fire, piloted poorly like most AI ships so they get caught and killed by the blasts of heavy ships often. Small loss of durability for player ship while separated. (10%) MVAM console takes up a console slot. Pets only display ship name and not player name above them, making it easy in PVP to figure out which is the player and kill him. Long recharge for MVAM ability, ten minutes from recall of pets to next use.
Tactical Escort Retrofit
Pros: Cloak. Tactical with Commander, Lieutenant Commander, and Ensign slots allowing lots of options on the bringing of pain to your enemies and stacking of Tactical Team for best ability to keep your engaged shield up. Slightly more maneuverable than an unseparated MVAE, on a par with the individual sub-ships, while retaining the full durability of a whole MVAE. Cloak can be removed to free up console slot if not used.
Cons: Cloak isn't really that useful since few other Fed ships can cloak and can't operate when the ship is in combat. Doesn't have the same potential damage output as a separated MVAE, but a match for a whole one.
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I have to ask, is there any point whatsoever in buying a shuttle? Also, is there a list of the available sets somewhere?
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I have to ask, is there any point whatsoever in buying a shuttle? Also, is there a list of the available sets somewhere?
There's one mission in the 2800 series where you're required to use a small craft (shuttle or runabout), but other than that, as far as I can tell they're mostly for #$%^# and giggles, like, "Hey, let's do a 5-shuttle STF!"
As far as I know, the only sets are Borg, Breen, Jem'Hadar, Aegis, MACO, and Omega Force.
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Anyone else severely underwhelmed by the mining update?
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I have to ask, is there any point whatsoever in buying a shuttle? Also, is there a list of the available sets somewhere?
There are two missions, one in the Romulan and one in the 2800 arc, that require a shuttle. You can also troll with them in STFs, Fleet Actions, and Kerat.
There's also an Honor Guard set, but for your listing needs, There's a wiki for that. (http://www.stowiki.org/Main_Page)
Other useful resource: Google Docs duty officer chains spreadsheet kept updated by players. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0An0kX7PcNK-vdFBpcWJRaWoxNkt3VktpaS1sTURkdmc#gid=65)
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You can also troll with them in STFs, Fleet Actions, and Kerat.
I actually did this in a Mirror Universe FA to destroy the trios of Frigates that would kill Captain-rank players.
What I found out doing this was that an Advanced Escort 20 levels lower than me is pretty hairy in a shuttle. ;)
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I am now a proud owner of a Galaxy Dreadnought (Galaxy-X). That is all.
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I cannot sign in...after reseting my password twice it still says, my username or password is invalid o.O
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I cannot sign in...after reseting my password twice it still says, my username or password is invalid o.O
Dumb question, but I have to ask: did you make sure the launcher is set to use the correct account (PW/Cryptic)?
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Yeah, it works now, after retrieving IDs etc...but still strange^^
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Almost abandoned this game, came back to find like 9 doff assignments finished, all successful. Also grabbed the free EV suit.
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Can't say I liek the balance approach to this.
A Galaxy has 0.9 shield modifier, Sovy has 1... Intrepid has 1.2????? That's thing is half the size! By what abortion of logic does it have better shields than an assault cruiser???
Also: Phaser Lance - utterly unimpressive.
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Science ships have a positive shield modifier.
And a negative hull modifier.
As my science ship friend says, if you're out of shields in a Luna, you're out of HP.
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To me, that's wonky balance. Smaller vessels should have a defense bonus (on account on their speed and size), hence being more difficult to hit. They are already faster and nimbler. :doubt:
Meh...
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That stat actually makes a surprising amount of sense for Treknobabble. Surface area increases as the square of the radius, so as your ship gets bigger, you have to pump out way more energy to maintain the same shield strength.
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That stat actually makes a surprising amount of sense for Treknobabble. Surface area increases as the square of the radius, so as your ship gets bigger, you have to pump out way more energy to maintain the same shield strength.
... don't bigger ships = more power?
and would that mean that shuttles have the strongest shields of all?
Allright..technobable..but you can hand-wave everything with technobabble :lol:
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That stat actually makes a surprising amount of sense for Treknobabble. Surface area increases as the square of the radius, so as your ship gets bigger, you have to pump out way more energy to maintain the same shield strength.
... don't bigger ships = more power?
and would that mean that shuttles have the strongest shields of all?
Allright..technobable..but you can hand-wave everything with technobabble :lol:
Linearly increasing hull dimensions = quadratically increasing shield power requirments. Add to this the fact that Science Vessels are built to do that kind of stuff and would have proportionally higher energy outputs, and also that you just can't fit a massive shield generator or powerplant on a shuttle means that it makes perfect sense.
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Makes sense to me, Cruisers can take far more punishment than a Science ship, but the idea behind Science ships was Voyager, and look at what they acomplished. Stupid episodes or not, Voyager functioned at 90ish percent of a theoretical 100% for 7 years vs. everything from Telepathic Pitcher Plants to Macro-Viruses to the Borg to other things that would have made Kirk wet his pants.
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I thought Kirk was more about making green alien women wet their pants.
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True enough, but you get the idea.
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Linearly increasing hull dimensions = quadratically increasing shield power requirments.
Add to this the fact that Science Vessels are built to do that kind of stuff and would have proportionally higher energy outputs, and also that you just can't fit a massive shield generator or powerplant on a shuttle means that it makes perfect sense.
Shield science?
I wasn't aware we have that. Seriously lookign for sense here is pointless. It's ST. They can technobbable anything.
And yes, according to their logic, small craft should be the strongest one. They friggin can replicate anything adn have a badge-sized portable holodeck, and shuttles have shield (and in case of VOY, redicolously powerful shields, given that it took more fire than the Enterprise-D)
Makes sense to me, Cruisers can take far more punishment than a Science ship, but the idea behind Science ships was Voyager, and look at what they acomplished. Stupid episodes or not, Voyager functioned at 90ish percent of a theoretical 100% for 7 years vs. everything from Telepathic Pitcher Plants to Macro-Viruses to the Borg to other things that would have made Kirk wet his pants.
Voyager doesn't exist. That inconsistent abomination enver happened.
NEVER.
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Oi, Voyager was lots of fun. First Trek I was able to watch as it premiered.
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They can technobbable anything.
Through the main deflector dish. (Ever notice that? There's your answer, too: science ships are designed to route large amounts of power through the main deflector in a way others are not. Ingame, certain abilities are actually classified as "Deflector Abilities", like Gravity Well and Tyken's Rift.)
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Honestly Trash...why do you play a game, where every thing which every happened in the ST universe is taken for granted, but you can't stand it?
I have watched TOS, next generation, Voyager, DS9 and I liked them all, 'cause it was so drasticly different of Star Wars or B5, but I loved them all.
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Only the most insanely dedicated sci-fi writers actually make sci-fi that makes complete sense, anyway. Technobabble is everywhere. Trek just took the concept and ran with it; they do make some half-hearted attempts at continuity but at the end of the day, things do what the plot needs them to do. And, I'm fine with that. I loved the TV series, even Voyager, although that was because I have a vivid imagination and I loved what it COULD have been, I love the ships, the weapons, and the universe.
It's a game. Don't worry about it too much.
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Star trek online your killing me! Why must take 11 hours to download?! *Sad face*
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A tactic for dealing with Borg Command Ships:
The first many times I fought in Borg encounters, I would tend to crawl up to the command ship at about 5km and park. It's not moving, no reason for me to move, plus I get to keep all my forward cannons on it. This had a few problems, in that I was in the firing arc for that thing's torpedo salvos, and was a sitting duck in case a plasma energy bolt came my way, which it often did.
However, I observed an interesting behavior: The command ship is really big, and you can fire at any part(s) of it. If any part of the ship is within one of your firing arc, you can fire at it. That means that if you get close enough to the hull that part of it is in your front firing arc and part is in your rear arc, you can fire all your weapons at it.
By strafing down the length of the ship at full speed, I found that I was able to use my full arsenal, and all my abilities to maximum effect, while simultaneously being out of the command ship's torpedo spread arc, and able to outrun/destroy plasma energy bolts more easily. Plus it looks really cool.
Sure, you're probably spreading firepower over two or three different shield quadrants, but in most of the battles I've been in, everyone else is also attacking from two or three directions as well.
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I park next to it's side (near the front) and open fire from all weapons. When a plasma bolt comes, Emergency power to engines, full speed, get the hell out of dodge. Then come back and continue chipping away at it.
Aht said, I need to find a team to paly with. Most mission are now for teams.
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I park in front of it, and then when the torpedo happens, I hit Beam Fire-at-Will and laugh as it evaporates.
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Honestly Trash...why do you play a game, where every thing which every happened in the ST universe is taken for granted, but you can't stand it?
Because of all the other stuff from ST that I do like?
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Star trek online your killing me! Why must take 11 hours to download?! *Sad face*
I was told 10 hours to download. It ended up getting it in like 2 or 3, if that.
Even so, get a good book. :yes:
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Star trek online your killing me! Why must take 11 hours to download?! *Sad face*
I was told 10 hours to download. It ended up getting it in like 2 or 3, if that.
Even so, get a good book. :yes:
Or watch cool YouTube videos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPJUBQd-PNM).
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Honestly Trash...why do you play a game, where every thing which every happened in the ST universe is taken for granted, but you can't stand it?
Because of all the other stuff from ST that I do like?
Well, if you hate the sci-fi elements and the writing (not to mention the core MMO-grindiness of the gameplay), that means you must really like ripply foreheads and pointy ears.
In any case, I gave the game a try and used some time I had off of work to power through the story missions (and the character levels). I gave some of the end-game content a try, and kept up with The 2800 series as it was released. I then set the game down and feel no real desire to pick it back up again.
I will give credit to the developers, as they appear to have some true passion for Trek, but I had a concern going into the game. I was worried that a genuine Star Trek experience would be incompatible with the demands of the MMORPG genre. Ultimately, those concerns were pretty well borne out over the course of my experience with STO. As a Trek fan, I felt that STO sat in a really uncomfortable part of the uncanny valley. It resembles Star Trek, but concessions had to be made to shoehorn the aesthetic into the MMORPG mold. STO looks like Star Trek. STO sounds like Star Trek. STO feels like WoW with some slightly interesting variation in the realm of space combat. Star Fleet has to be combat-focused, and everyone and their dog/targ has to be at war to ensure that there is a component of excitement. Phemomena that were incredibly powerful and encountered once or twice in a Trek series are made into character abilities to ensure some variation of spells capabilities. (Example - A Tyken's Rift crippled the Enterprise-D, and an episode was dedicated to the ship trying to escape. (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Tyken%27s_Rift) Meanwhile, the USS Pavlov, my ironically-named recon science ship, can pop off a Tyken's Rift every 45 seconds as a mild AOE energy and speed debuff that lasts a whole 15 seconds (http://www.stowiki.org/Ability:_Tyken%27s_Rift).)
Maybe if I was raised on DS9, instead of TNG, STO wouldn't feel quite as odd.... That series was, after all, given a strong focus on the war between the Dominion and the Alpha Quadrant, so the combat-heavy approach of STO wouldn't be quite as alien to the setting, if DS9 had been the series establishing the setting in my mind's eye. As a TNG fan (and I'm sure this holds for TOS, Enterprise, and Voyager fans as well), it's off-putting to see exploration and diplomacy turned into a very repetitive and often combat-focused set of daily quests. Trek, to me, is about launching into the unknown, expanding the star charts, discovering scientific phenomena, and defusing diplomatic tensions (Cardassians and Romulans were insideous Cold War-style opponents, and the alliance with the Klingons often felt tenuous, throughout TNG). In STO, all of that is reduced to the bits you grind through to gather experience, dilithium, or crafting materials, which will ultimately be used to improve your capabilities in combat.
In fairness, the space combat mechanics are pretty fun. If you had dorsal and ventral shield sectors and six degrees of freedom of movement, I'd say you'd have a near-perfect set of mechanics for a capital ship-focused space combat game. I'd love to see those mechanics transplanted into another game, because I did have a measure of fun with the space combat. It's ultimately the grind and the misguided layering in of the Star Trek aesthetic that lets the overall experience down.
All my other gripes with the game are pretty minor and easier to look past (and are therefore omitted from this post!). As someone whose been hungry for a good Trek game, since the 1990's, I wanted STO to suck me in and not let me back out, but it just doesn't. They got the aesthetic right, and they have some really strong gameplay elements at work, but those two components work against each other in the overall evaluation. If you're a non-Trek MMORPG fan, STO's a fine game that will offer you something a little different from what you're used to. If you formed your conception of Trek around DS9, STO may provide a better experience for you than it did for me. If you are a Trek fan looking to boldly go, where no one has gone before, then the whole experience of STO is going to feel a little off.
(Footnote - Okay, I am going to bring up one of my larger 'minor' gripes, since it further plays into the uncanny valley thing. Star Fleet has a uniform code, goddammit. Yes, it was loosely enforced, allowing for culturally-significant accessories to be added to the uniform (e.g. the Klingon baldric sash and the Bajoran earring), and yes, Roddenberry objected to it as an apparent militarization of Star Fleet, but it's there. The only person who flagrantly and regularly violated the Star Fleet uniform code was Troi, and I suspect that was because her Season 1 TNG persona was so ****ing whiny that nobody wanted to hear her ***** about her cleavage needing ventillation, until she started showing aspiration for promotion. In STO, the uniform code seems to be entirely absent. The default uniforms look like they're made of fetish film-quality leather/latex, and in lieu of those, I've seen people opt for anything from the TNG film uniforms to 20th century suits to humans in Orion casual wear to **** that looks more at home in a truly awful anime, pink hair included. I know that customization options are the heart of the microtransaction MMOG business model (we'll leave the definition of microtransaction for another time), but no two people in Star Fleet appear to be wearing the same uniform. The end result is that you have no hope of maintaining a suspension of disbelief when gameplay requires you to step foot on a busy installation. Also, there will be nausea, when you walk past someone who tried to pass off Rei's plugsuit as a Star Fleet uniform.)
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Have you tried Bridge Commander? It has pretty much what you describe as "almost perfect system for capship combat". It's a quite good TNG-era game.
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Have you tried Bridge Commander? It has pretty much what you describe as "almost perfect system for capship combat". It's a quite good TNG-era game.
I've been looking for a copy, since leaving STO by the wayside, but they're difficult to come by. It's one of those titles that hasn't hit digital distribution sites yet, and used copies seem to be running about $40-$50. I will probably bite the bullet and shell out for a copy at some point, but right now it's not in the budget.
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Blue, I'm with you on some of that. But what hooked me is the fact that despite being 50 years after the end of Voyager, culturally, at least, it feels like Starfleet has gone back to like they were in Kirk's time. They don't stickle the rules nearly as much as they did during TNG and DS9. I really dig the callbacks to stuff we haven't seen since the 60s or stuff that was effectively throw away stuff from TNG or DS9 be used as a plot point.
That said, there are caveats to it being an MMO, because it IS an MMO. In a sea of mindless MMO flavors with EVE being on one end and WoW being on the other this one definately slides toward WoW. But, and I've said this already, it's got most of the stuff I liked from EVE, without the "white guy in harlem" feeling that you could be knifed at any moment(no offense to anyone that might be living in Harlem, that's the analogy that came to mind), and I've been looking for that.
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Honestly Trash...why do you play a game, where every thing which every happened in the ST universe is taken for granted, but you can't stand it?
Because of all the other stuff from ST that I do like?
Well, if you hate the sci-fi elements and the writing (not to mention the core MMO-grindiness of the gameplay), that means you must really like ripply foreheads and pointy ears.
As usual, you assume too much.
It's not necessary to go into details of exactly what elemetns I do like and why. Suffice to say there's things I liek and things I hate about ST, and jsut the same things I liek and hate about STO (which might be different things)
Phemomena that were incredibly powerful and encountered once or twice in a Trek series are made into character abilities to ensure some variation of spells capabilities. (Example - A Tyken's Rift crippled the Enterprise-D, and an episode was dedicated to the ship trying to escape. (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Tyken%27s_Rift) Meanwhile, the USS Pavlov, my ironically-named recon science ship, can pop off a Tyken's Rift every 45 seconds as a mild AOE energy and speed debuff that lasts a whole 15 seconds (http://www.stowiki.org/Ability:_Tyken%27s_Rift).)
Try driving around in a Galaxy-X and fireing the phaser lance. In the series it fires directly forward and goes trough a Negh'Var, killing it in two shots. In the game it has a 45° fire arc, 2 minute cooldown and is unimpressive.
If you are a Trek fan looking to boldly go, where no one has gone before, then the whole experience of STO is going to feel a little off.
Bridge Commander.
I want Bridge Commander 2... :(
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Blue, I'm with you on some of that. But what hooked me is the fact that despite being 50 years after the end of Voyager, culturally, at least, it feels like Starfleet has gone back to like they were in Kirk's time. They don't stickle the rules nearly as much as they did during TNG and DS9. I really dig the callbacks to stuff we haven't seen since the 60s or stuff that was effectively throw away stuff from TNG or DS9 be used as a plot point.
You referring to the Klingon arc? Loved the begining, hated the ending. It feels like they tried to shoehorn as much ST references as possible. Some missions were great. Others felt..out of place.
The cheesy guardian of forever for example.
And how both in the Klingon and Romulan arc, both sides are morons with no security to speak off. Comicly inept security measures. Ineffectual villans.
But what irks me the most is the hypocrisy of Starfleet. It's perfeclty fine with abusing time-travel left and right (where was the time police when Janeway made her stunt????? ), entereing into other peopels territory and attacking peopel/installations based on nothing more than hunches... and yet if anyone else does that they are EEEVIL. Researching borg tech? We're Starfleet, so it's good. Romulans do it? Quickly, blow up all their research!
I'm tempted to make a foundy mission that gives Starfleet a karmic kick in the nads.
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In response to the phaser lance, it's fairly obvious, that if the lance behaved as it does in the show, it would be imbalanced and Cryptic would be rightly accused of pay 2 win. Also, to hit that hard it could be firing from a capacitor which could have a longish recharge time. I haven't messed with it, but it's probably like the heavy graviton beam from equipping the MACO set, it looks like a wave motion gun, but hits just slightly harder than a single volley from a cannon. I am with you though, long CD abilities need to hit harder than they do. GIVE ME A REASON TO GO 3/3 MACO!
As far as the Tyken's Rift goes, the one that crippled the Enterprise(and another alien ship BTW) was not only enormous, it was naturally occurring. The one's that SciShips make are obviously artificial facsimiles that have neither the magnitude or sheer power to be as effective as the naturally occurring one. It's logical.
Also, as an aside, I have tronified my fleet escort! It's very pretty.
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In response to the phaser lance, it's fairly obvious, that if the lance behaved as it does in the show, it would be imbalanced and Cryptic would be rightly accused of pay 2 win. Also, to hit that hard it could be firing from a capacitor which could have a longish recharge time.
I don't play PvP, so I don't care. That single ship costs more than most game in my library. I dont' care how they do it. IF has different stats in PVP, I dont' care. I want my moneys worth.
Oh, and my point is that the phaser lance SHOULDN'T have such a wide fire cone. Something like 10° fire cone would be more sane.
And if you talk about balance - phasers and torps act roughly like in the show.
Meh..I always was a proponent of natural balance. There's a reason there are teams and fleets. Balancing 1on1 just feels artificial.
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In case anybody ever needs anything crafted, I boosted my levels all the way, so can make just about anything if you send me the materials.
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Same here, though if you want Aegis I'm out of dilithium atm so you'll have to bring your own unreplicatable materials.
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Guys, we really need to see about making an HLP Fleet - So I'm proposing that next weekend, on Sunday, at about 8PM GMT, everyone gets their asses online and we form an HLP Fleet.
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Guys, we really need to see about making an HLP Fleet - So I'm proposing that next weekend, on Sunday, at about 8PM GMT, everyone gets their asses online and we form an HLP Fleet.
I support this, but I'm afraid I'll be out at that time, so I'll just have to join in after. It shouldn't bee too hard to get the required 5 or 6 people though.
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Not to criticize a game I've never played, but it seems like a massive (and unnecessary) inconvenience to require multiple people online at the same time in order to set up a fleet. The only MMO-ish games I've played let you set up guilds/the equivalent on your own...is requiring numerous people something that's fairly standard?
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No, that is weird. Every one I've played - not a whole lot, but still - allow just one person to set up a guild or whatever. This is mighty inconvenient. They probably do it to prevent people making a fleet just to get their own personal fleet storage. Understandable, but annoying.
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It only takes five, if you can't get that many people online at once, you don't have any business starting a fleet.
WoW takes 10.
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I just discovered something very interesting: Even though the event is over, you can still replay "The 2800" missions and get the rewards for them. They're in the Cardassian Front chapter, down a ways.
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Umm, yeah? It's not STO's policy to straight up remove content like that. They also added another dozen missions before it.
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The only reason you can't buy Galors straight up from the C-Store is because CBS didn't want to allow it. And so forth.
These guys work hard on content, they're not going to just yank it.
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Ah. I didn't know that. At the time it seemed like it would disappear though it didn't make much sense.
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Hit Admiral, got my first piece of borg gear today. I find it amusing that I've only just accepted the first Romulan Front mission, but I'm already a rank 45.
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Experimenting with mines on my Escort in place of turrets. If it works with these random quantum mines I got from a fleet action, I'll see how it works with some nice Borg mines. Fun times for everyone! \o/
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Their is an XP boost in FAs and Borg attacks. It kind of skews the leveling path a tad, but it's not too bad.
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I'll tell you what messes with leveling: DOFF missions. After you unlock them, you could feasibly hit the cap without ever fighting another battle.
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/me went from ~30 to ~39 without moving from the same spot by just doing his DOFF missions for a week and a half while he was too busy to actually play.
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Tried the STO Foundry tools..
Horrible, unintuitive and you can't do jack s*** with them.
You got no control over anything.
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Maybe you do fiddle with them long enough. There are tons of well made missions available to play.
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Guys, we really need to see about making an HLP Fleet - So I'm proposing that next weekend, on Sunday, at about 8PM GMT, everyone gets their asses online and we form an HLP Fleet.
Too busy with exams to do that this month, but last week of april I should be okay.
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Latest I can be on is 5pm GMT on Sunday if you need people on around that time.
Just discovered the benefits of martial arts/melee combos. Took down Hakeev in the final Romulan Arc mission with my bare hands. It was easier than shooting him from range!
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I have acheived Vice Admiral. I have, incidentally, not yet gotten even halfway through the Romulan Arc. Woo DOFF missions.
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Maybe you do fiddle with them long enough. There are tons of well made missions available to play.
No, they just suck. Horribly. The missions seen required a tons and tons of workarounds and are still very limiting.
You can't set statistics or weapons of enemy ships. You have no control of their strength, nor can you give them any order (like patrol). You cannot change their IFF. When you place a squadron, you have no control over the number of ships spawned.
Scripting is non-existant.
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My God, it's as if this were an MMO, and the mission building was an entirely optional extra!
Oh wait, it is.
It's there to be played. Tinkering around with it is, to the vast majority of players, ultimately irrelevent.
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I'm guessing then we won't be able to get the required amount of HLP players together to form a fleet tonight?
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I'm up for it.
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That makes two of us then. If I get a roll call of the required amount (Five?) going on here, we'll jump on and get it done quickly. I'm about falling asleep from fatigue so the sooner the better. Times will be in UTC/GMT if posted.
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I can make it...
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@Scotty - but they did add an editor. If you're adding something, then do it right. As it is, the editor is still in Alpha/Beta state, and the devs are promising enhancements.
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Well, Trash, complaining whilst it's in Alpha/Beta seems a bit silly. Instead, submit some useful crits to the Devs instead.
Okay, FleetMind Count is at Three.
Need Two More, Stat.
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So, assuming we get the five, how do we form a fleet?
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So, assuming we get the five, how do we form a fleet?
Earth Spacedock, register at an NPC there... I dunno if we need to be formed into a team but we'll do it just in case.
Any catchy names for the HLP fleet?
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Well there's the obvious 'Hard Light Productions'.
Over in the MechWarrior thread someone suggested 'Hard Lighters' for a company name. Could work?
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Earth Spacedock, register at an NPC there... I dunno if we need to be formed into a team but we'll do it just in case.
You have to be teamed, and all in the same instance.
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Well there's the obvious 'Hard Light Productions'.
Over in the MechWarrior thread someone suggested 'Hard Lighters' for a company name. Could work?
Ehehe. That was me who suggested 'Hard Lighters'. Yes, it could work.
And, I suspected as much NGTM, cheers for clearing it up for me :)
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Welp, I'm just gonna camp around the Fleet guy if/until we manage to get five people.
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Welp, I'm just gonna camp around the Fleet guy if/until we manage to get five people.
Well, if NGTM's input was him volunteering as well, we're sitting on four. If not, we're still at three.
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Sparda, you, NGTM, Trash(?), and myself. Dunno if Trash is already in a fleet or not, but that *does* make five.
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Sparda, you, NGTM, Trash(?), and myself. Dunno if Trash is already in a fleet or not, but that *does* make five.
Ah, is Sparda online? I didn't realise. In which case we may have our five.
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Yeah, I think he's doing his first fleet actions right now. I know he's on, at least.
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I am in fact online, but was already part of the failheap fleet.
I'm not sure it matters.
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Yeah, I think he's doing his first fleet actions right now. I know he's on, at least.
Hmmm, then shall we set the meeting for 2200 GMT/UTC? Give him time to finish his fleet action and see if he wants to help out.
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I can be there.
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I think we're meeting on instance #16 of the spacedock. There are three of us there already, at least. :P
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I'm there.
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Well that took *entirely* too much effort for something that should be kinda simple. But it's done.
I'm not sure how invites and applications are handled in game, but we're the 'Hard Light Irregulars' fleet, if anyone who wasn't there wants to join.
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Have an account now. Only recently started playing. My account name is the same one I have here: BritishShivans, but my character's name is the same as my EVE one, Ramus Syrbriak.
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Not sure how to join. If you can invite remotely, can you send one to @dariusbei00?
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Not sure how to join. If you can invite remotely, can you send one to @dariusbei00?
Will see what I can do but I suspect we might need Scotty to do it as the Clan leader right now, as he hasn't promoted any of us through the ranks
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Now that we have a fleet, should we make an IRC channel on esper.net to go with it? There's already #HLP-ME3 for ME3 fans, so I don't see how this would be any different.
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You can make a chat channel inside of STO, and you can have people connect to it via external chat clients, as well.
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I knew about chat channels, but I didn't know about outside connections. Thanks.
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IIRC, in one of the side tabs, you can see a list of all Fleets and ask to join.
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Fleet invite sent, members promoted to more than just recruit and stuff. Took me a few minutes to figure out how to do stuff in the fleet management menus.
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As one of the founding members and the one who came up with the name, I expect to have ample rights!
Not that I need anything from the fleet bank- I'm fully stocked anyway. Speaking of which - anyone need anything?
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This game is becoming better. I used to think my escort was boring, but then in the last few missions of the Klingon arc I started getting into turning fights with multiple Birds of Prey. Needless to say, engaging in battles of maneuver with Birds of Prey is pretty damn fun. I think I'll start enjoying STO more with the more escort-on-escort battles I get into, since taking down the larger vessels in an escort is aggravating since you only have one direction's worth of significant firepower, with the end result being your frontal shields always take a ton of damage and your other quadrants are forced to be depleted to recharge them.
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Tac Team x2 +Emergency Power to Shields fixes that problem. Well mostly.
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I actually use EPS a lot, plus Evasive Maneuvers so I can show a full shield quadrant and the Attack Patterns for damage. It still doesn't solve the fact that fighting cruiser-type vessels is a boring slog as I hammer one quadrant over and over again with cannons and torps. Fortunately my new Heavy Escort has rear torps in addition to rear phasers so I can hurt people coming and going.
P.S. I really need to hire that new Tac Officer candidate I've got sitting around with Torp Spread and a couple cannon abilities.
P.P.S. I can't wait until I get the Defiant. :D
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Tac Team, in addition to removing tactical debuffs like Borg Ship Assimilation, auto balances shields toward the one taking damage. I don't know if it's a bug or not, but under most circumstances I can go from almost no shields to full shields in less than 10 seconds. Of course that's on my VA Engineer. Who can tank a tactical cube in a vanilla odyssey. With one Engineering Boff. With Weapons set to full power.
It's actually quite easy, you stay outside of 5km so they can't tractor you down and use Beam Fire At Will and Tractor repulsors to keep the heavy plasma torpedos away and you are golden.
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You're a Vice Admiral Engineer. I'm a Tac Officer who just hit Commander. Of course you're going to be tanking everything.
Oh, I can't really complain too hard about poor shielding. Attack Pattern Beta + Cannon Rapid Fire + High Yield Torpedo = insane alpha damage.
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If you're out of tac teams to fire off, you're in trouble.
Hell I barely get away without one on my Sovvie.
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My Engineer in a long range science boat has been racking up 1st place in several fleet actions now. It feels uncanny until I notice all the rainbow cruisers I'm playing with.
But Gravity wells, torpedo spreads, shockwaves, twin DBB+photon up front, turret, BA, mines in back, ride in, pop some abilities, nuke one ship with beams and cannon, get all the aggro with a spread tossed in, EPTS, shockwave the mob, then throw down mines and turn around before another pass. rinse&repeat (CD on gravity well is done by the time I'm set for another run) is working great as a strategy
too bad the swag is not of much use to me, got some purple dual and dual heavy cannons last 2 times.
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My Gryphon escort is now pretty much a weaponization of the color purple. Dual Heavy Polaron Cannons x4 forward, two Tac consoles for Polaron damage, two consoles for energy weapon damage, Polaron Turrets x3 aft. Jem'Hadar set to make my ship even more purple. I kinda dislike not having the extra speed in sector space, though, so I still carry around a M.A.C.O. set in my inventory to go fast. :P
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I'm runing a Galaxy-X as a tac officer.
2x Beam Fire at will, 1x Beam overload (thinking of replaceing ti with something else)
2 different shield buffs (power to shields and ..somehing else)
3 hull bufffs (Engineering team, Hazzard Emitters and something else)
2x Reverse shield polarity
rear: 4x phaer arrays rear,
front: 2x phaser arrays, 2 dual phaser banks
3x Phaser Tac consoles. 2xRCS consoles, 2x armor platings, 1 console for crew recovery, 1 for shield recharge. Got rid of the cloak as it simply ins't worth it.
This setup works well enough. But my lance damage is so utterly unpredictable...It goes anywhere from 1000 damage to 40000 damage
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Check the shield status of your target, I wonder if it's getting it's damage calculated like a torpedo and taking shields into account.
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Crits (which are more likely vs. a still/slow target) and tac buffs have a dramatic effect on the lance, tac officers can get up in the 50,000 point range for damage with that thing.
It's a phaser and is treated as such by the game, phaser consoles boosting it's power too.
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I wish the heavy graviton beam was like that...
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My KDF tac officer was recently promoted to Captain, and I grabbed a nice heavy cruiser. Being Gorn, I had no choice but to outfit it with Heavy Dual Disrupter Cannons and a pair of Plasma Torpedoes. And some plasma mines and a plasma beam array in a rear slot because PLASMA!
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I just downloaded star trek online and I am Salnath Dragon@omnisphere33, if anybody Is curious. :p
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Crits (which are more likely vs. a still/slow target) and tac buffs have a dramatic effect on the lance, tac officers can get up in the 50,000 point range for damage with that thing.
It's a phaser and is treated as such by the game, phaser consoles boosting it's power too.
I know..I do have 3 phaser consoles. The highest damage I ever got is 40K, but that is very rear. Lately I can't seem ot get mroe than 15K.
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Really.
We're really doing more lockboxes.
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They spawn so much more than the Cardy Boxes.... It isn't funny.
They're worth ~400 per on the market, atm.
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They spawn so much more than the Cardy Boxes.... It isn't funny.
Not convinced this is possible.
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Really.
We're really doing more lockboxes.
TF2 makes money on crates! STO will make money on crates! MOAR CRATES!
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They are giving us a "AA" game for nothing, I'll put up with some spam.
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I don't mind microtransactions... .But this? This ISN'T micro-transaction.
You get garbage from most crates, and the key is NOT cheap. IF it was 50 cents or maybe 1$ per key....maybe.
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It is $1 a key...or it was.
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They don't seem to advertise their point-cost in USD, wherever I look on their site.
Looks like 1.25 USD per 100 point (1 key).
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I've opened three golden crates, and every time I've gotten complete crap from it. If I'd payed actual money, I would have been really pissed.
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They spawn so much more than the Cardy Boxes.... It isn't funny.
Not convinced this is possible.
I'm basing this off of an STF (the one with the probes trying to get to the past) where there must have been at least 10 Ferengi lockbox drops.
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The only thing even remotely interesting about the lockboxes is to see how many of them I can accumulate in a moment of pure, pointless greed before destroying them.
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The D'Kora is, actually, legitimately awesome if you manage to get it.
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Is it crusiery(tough), escorty(can mount cannons and has appropriate BOff slots) or sciency(I dunno yet because my SciOff is level 3)?
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It's essentially a Galaxy Dread that can turn and has good special abilities and some nice out of combat stuff (like onboard mail/exchange access).
Never dock ever again.
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It has a Phaser Lance(or equivalent)?
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Nope. It seems to have some pretty spammy missile batteries though. It also comes with a stupid "I WIN" button. It is also ugly.
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It has a Phaser Lance(or equivalent)?
The D'Kora's special abilities are apparently considerably more effectual than Phaser Lance, but yes.
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The D'Kora is, actually, legitimately awesome if you manage to get it.
I've fought it, and it is very, VERY impressive. Can easily take on 2:1 odds, and can hold it's own against 3:1. After that, it can die.
Tips for fighting: Do NOT follow directly behind it. That EMP burst is nasty. At the same time, it can only hit a very narrow range behind it, so dodge to the side and it'll probably miss you entirely. You're a sitting duck if it hits you though, worse when the ship dumps warp plasma at the same time.
That burst fire will take down your shields if you don't reinforce them quickly, but that's not the real danger. The real danger is the missile barrage that comes afterwards. It can and will take down a ship with 40k hull very, VERY quickly.
It's very tanky, but fights more like an escort.
Also, the bridge is stupid small for some reason.
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I have seen text messages of a player getting a D'kora every five minutes. Well, I'm almost Captain, I want my Enterprise ship! :p
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You'll continue to see them until the lockbox thing is gone. It'll be VERY annoying.
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There is an option that disables those announcements in the Options menu.
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I just had the most fun battle in Kithomer Accord Space STF (Elite).
The team cleared the gates and Donatra showed up. We pummled her a bit, and once her rear shield fell into red, I buffed up and lanced her in the ass..for 2x 30K damage.
She didn't take it well...for the rest of hte mission she was after me constantly. Whenever she cloacked and decloaked, I was in the center of her fire cone for the super-weapon. When the weapon fired, she'd turn and try to hit me. Ignoring everyone else. She'd go after me even after I left her weapons range. And fired everything at me..
My evasive manouvers and engine batteries were in constant use, as were all of my healing and buffing abilities. She nearly got me twice.
In the end, when her health dropped low, I charged her head-on, using every buff I had as I powered trough torpedo spreads and cannon fire (thank god for reverse shield polarity!) and lanced her again right in the nose.
Assimilate THIS!
BOOOOM
Fun. So much for borg not being emotional.....
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HAHa..it happened again.
Donatra hates me so much her rage carries on to each mission.
Of course, now I make it a priority to lance her in her posterior every time.