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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: FlamingCobra on February 25, 2012, 02:08:07 pm
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Wireless Mouse's batteries went dead. No more AA batteries in house. Found some old mouse that used some kind of purple connector, but PC doesn't have port for it. Then found USB wired mouse. Sort of works. Can move pointer and scroll, but click don't work. Had to use TAB to even get here.
Don't feel like going to town just to get batteries.
Can't figure out what setting will fix this when went to Control Panel -> Mouse Properties.
Old mouse used dumb MS intellipoint or something. Help?
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Sounds like your USB mouse has dead buttons. Solution: Go to town. Get new batteries.
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Actually I figured it out. This isn't a Microsoft Mouse. It's a dell mouse.
I end-tasked Intellipoint and the USB one started working. Intellipoint was overriding the other mouse.
Microsoft should tell users these things.
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the lesson here that I learned with my first wireless mouse is always have a wired mouse near by in case the batteries run out.
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the lesson here that I learned with my first wireless mouse is always have a wired mouse near by in case the batteries run out.
or, dont use a wireless mouse if you can avoid it anyhow.
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Well, technically, I could have used a screwdriver to disassemble the battery pack from my Wii Remote recharge station and used the AA batteries from it, but I'm too lazy.
so now my question is, why were PS/2 ports phased out?
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Well, technically, I could have used a screwdriver to disassemble the battery pack from my Wii Remote recharge station and use the batteries from it, but I'm too lazy.
np use the USB port's chief advantage and hot swap the mice when the batteries go flat
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Well, technically, I could have used a screwdriver to disassemble the battery pack from my Wii Remote recharge station and used the AA batteries from it, but I'm too lazy.
so now my question is, why were PS/2 ports phased out?
They haven't completely phased them out, but they went the "it's compatible with everything so why have multiple standards supported" route. They started phasing out PS/2 ports on laptops around the time dual core processors came around IIRC, and Macs have used USB keyboards and mice pretty much exclusively since around 1999. Manufacturers stopped bothering to make new PS/2 keyboards, and by extension motherboard manufacturers started stopping to bother to put them on their boards. Some still have them, some have combo ports that support one mouse or one keyboard, but they're getting less common.
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Yeah but manufacturers aren't bothering to put more USB ports on their motherboards either. So we're becoming more limited in the peripherals we can attach.
Oh, and FYI, The E, gas has gone up 6¢ in the past 2 days. It would be ridiculous to go all the way to town for one item.
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Yeah, well, you can chain up to 127 devices through a series of USB hubs. Yeah that gets messy, but I've got a few hubs, two for my laptop, one for my desktop. They are invaluable, just be sure they are powered and come with an AC adapter (otherwise you may end up with a hub and devices that won't turn on due to the very limited power coming through the USB hub from your motherboard).
Bonus, IIRC you can use powered USB hubs when the computer is off or the hub is disconnected from the computer, you can still use it to charge / power USB devices.
Yes I know manufacturers should put more ports on. In the meantime....
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Yeah but manufacturers aren't bothering to put more USB ports on their motherboards either. So we're becoming more limited in the peripherals we can attach.
Oh, and FYI, The E, gas has gone up 6¢ in the past 2 days. It would be ridiculous to go all the way to town for one item.
Actually, the last couple systems I've built that didn't have PS/2 ports had something like 8 or 10 USB ports on the back, instead of the 4 my current box (which still has PS/2 ports) has on the back. Actually, they even put two USB ports in the location where there would usually be PS/2 ports. So I would argue that they are adding more USB ports in place of the PS/2.
EDIT: Just checked: neither one of those were high-end boards, one Gigabyte with 8 USB ports, and (I remembered incorrectly) one Biostar with just 4. So at least some manufacturers are adding more USB ports.
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Oh, and FYI, The E, gas has gone up 6¢ in the past 2 days. It would be ridiculous to go all the way to town for one item.
That's what bikes are for.
(I'm a decadent socialist european. I am 31 years old, and do not have a driver's license, or have a desire or need to get one anytime soon. I use bikes, buses, and trains to get around.)
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Oh, and FYI, The E, gas has gone up 6¢ in the past 2 days. It would be ridiculous to go all the way to town for one item.
That's what bikes are for.
(I'm a decadent socialist european. I am 31 years old, and do not have a driver's license, or have a desire or need to get one anytime soon. I use bikes, buses, and trains to get around.)
Bikes work if you're not, like I used to be, a 15 minute DRIVE from the nearest (5000 person) town with absolutely no transit. It was about an hour and 15 minutes each way to town by bike.
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That's what bikes are for.
(I'm a decadent socialist european. I am 31 years old, and do not have a driver's license, or have a desire or need to get one anytime soon. I use bikes, buses, and trains to get around.)
Welcome to America, where public transportation outside of cities is near-nonexistent and you have to drive to go anywhere! :p
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I've got a wireless mouse that doesn't require batteries
*waits for someone to guess how this is possible*
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Internal battery with a charger? I've seen that done, IIRC on some higher end Logitech mice.
Anyway, I'm not using a wireless mouse because they sometimes have response problems and don't respond as quickly as wired mice. Not to mention you have to either swap batteries or charge it, which would be a problem for me. I have a G500 and I'm happy with it, and I can't really imagine working with a different mouse (except for similarly shaped G2 or G5) for long.
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Wires for life.
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I will always take the greatest effort to avoid using wireless devices for that very reason.
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recharge your old alkaline batteries! (http://www.afrotechmods.com/reallycheap/batteries/batts.htm)
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So I would argue that they are adding more USB ports in place of the PS/2.
Which sucks. :( PS/2 has n-key rollover, USB does not. Try moving in 3D space with just 2 keys, then use a PS/2 keyboard and get another dimension of movement. See if you can go back to 2 keys easily.
Thankfully, my 990FXA-UD3 has a PS/2 port despite being the newest chipset. And I have an old PS/2 Logitech keyboard. It may not matter to typists, but if I want to go down, strafe left, move back, look up and look right at the same time, I need either a $100+ USB gaming keyboard... or a $10 PS/2 keyboard.
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my old PS2 keyboard whined at 3 keypresses.
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So I would argue that they are adding more USB ports in place of the PS/2.
Which sucks. :( PS/2 has n-key rollover, USB does not. Try moving in 3D space with just 2 keys, then use a PS/2 keyboard and get another dimension of movement. See if you can go back to 2 keys easily.
Thankfully, my 990FXA-UD3 has a PS/2 port despite being the newest chipset. And I have an old PS/2 Logitech keyboard. It may not matter to typists, but if I want to go down, strafe left, move back, look up and look right at the same time, I need either a $100+ USB gaming keyboard... or a $10 PS/2 keyboard.
i dont know what you are smoking, but, i can has some?
i remember each and every ps2 keyboard i ever had whine and make the pc speaker beep when i pressed 3 buttons at the same time. back when i still used ps2 kb's. and pc speakers in the pc anyhow...
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So I would argue that they are adding more USB ports in place of the PS/2.
Which sucks. :( PS/2 has n-key rollover, USB does not. Try moving in 3D space with just 2 keys, then use a PS/2 keyboard and get another dimension of movement. See if you can go back to 2 keys easily.
Thankfully, my 990FXA-UD3 has a PS/2 port despite being the newest chipset. And I have an old PS/2 Logitech keyboard. It may not matter to typists, but if I want to go down, strafe left, move back, look up and look right at the same time, I need either a $100+ USB gaming keyboard... or a $10 PS/2 keyboard.
i dont know what you are smoking, but, i can has some?
i remember each and every ps2 keyboard i ever had whine and make the pc speaker beep when i pressed 3 buttons at the same time. back when i still used ps2 kb's. and pc speakers in the pc anyhow...
Funny. Every last one of my PS/2 keyboards supports at minimum 3 keys. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A4vOZw_Qek) (Note: thats forward, then + left, then + up. thats W, A, Space) I can also press E to open my inv mid-flight without the keyboard complaining.
As long as they keys don't conflict (Shift vs Space, A vs D, W vs S, etc) I can use as many keys as I want to. If they do conflict, they just cancel each other out (A + D = no side movement)
And no, its not some top-of-the-line keyboard. It's just some POS generic logitech, like this one. (http://cb4.upanh.com/19.0.25460503.Ufh0/dsc00058.jpg)
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So I would argue that they are adding more USB ports in place of the PS/2.
Which sucks. :( PS/2 has n-key rollover, USB does not. Try moving in 3D space with just 2 keys, then use a PS/2 keyboard and get another dimension of movement. See if you can go back to 2 keys easily.
Thankfully, my 990FXA-UD3 has a PS/2 port despite being the newest chipset. And I have an old PS/2 Logitech keyboard. It may not matter to typists, but if I want to go down, strafe left, move back, look up and look right at the same time, I need either a $100+ USB gaming keyboard... or a $10 PS/2 keyboard.
i dont know what you are smoking, but, i can has some?
i remember each and every ps2 keyboard i ever had whine and make the pc speaker beep when i pressed 3 buttons at the same time. back when i still used ps2 kb's. and pc speakers in the pc anyhow...
Funny. Every last one of my PS/2 keyboards supports at minimum 3 keys. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A4vOZw_Qek) (Note: thats forward, then + left, then + up. thats W, A, Space) I can also press E to open my inv mid-flight without the keyboard complaining.
As long as they keys don't conflict (Shift vs Space, A vs D, W vs S, etc) I can use as many keys as I want to. If they do conflict, they just cancel each other out (A + D = no side movement)
And no, its not some top-of-the-line keyboard. It's just some POS generic logitech, like this one. (http://cb4.upanh.com/19.0.25460503.Ufh0/dsc00058.jpg)
thing is, i can do the same damn thing on my Logitech "Media Keyboard 600", which i paid $20 for. i know for a fact that i had the 3 key issue in FSO back as a kid when i played exclusively with the keyboard. using the roll keys on the numpad was ****ing impossible if i wanted to afterburn and shoot at something at the same time.
i dont know why or how, but i can tell you this for sure, i havent had the issue with any of my recent usb keyboards. (some generic genius "gaming" kb, tossed it when the keys started getting stuck, genius ergomedia 700, which was an ingenious keyboard and the most comfortable one to type on so far, but a glass of wine it wont survive)
and yes, i can do the same damn thing in minecraft as you can.
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Actually I figured it out. This isn't a Microsoft Mouse. It's a dell mouse.
I end-tasked Intellipoint and the USB one started working. Intellipoint was overriding the other mouse.
Microsoft should tell users these things.
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this is actually funny. a few months ago my brother in law gave me a box loaded with computer stuffs, mostly cables but a few keyboards and mice. there were like 6 mince, one was a no-name usb optical, 2 logitechs, and the rest were dell and ms, all older ball mice. some of them worked and some of them needed cleaning, of course when i opened the ms and dell mice i noticed that their design was completely identical down to every detail as if they used the same molds. i also noticed that the electronics were identical, only difference were the markings on the microcontroller that drives the thing. it is common for hardware developers to grind the tops of the chips so that both their original markings can be removed, and so that they can put their own markings in their place (this prevents end users from reverse engineering their firmware sources, which is easier than reverse engineering cp software considering the code size and small instruction sets used by microcontrollers). why this is such a secret that they need to do this expensive process is beyond me, as an idiot with an arduino can make a mouse in 5 minutes.
tldr:
ms and dell mice are exactly the same, they just have different logos painted on them.
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I've got a wireless mouse that doesn't require batteries
*waits for someone to guess how this is possible*
It squeaks, eats out of your cupboard, and leaves little brown pellet presents on your countertops?
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I've got a wireless mouse that doesn't require batteries
*waits for someone to guess how this is possible*
It squeaks, eats out of your cupboard, and leaves little brown pellet presents on your countertops?
A quick google search yields this. http://www.tomshardware.com/news/genius-mouse-wireless-gold-capacitor,14529.html
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supercaps arepretty awesome. but id guess inductive power transfer. one way to accomplish this is with an inductive mat possibly under or in place of the mouse pad, which powers the mouse through an inductor. mouse would itself be exactly the same as a battery operated mouse, using a bluetooth or other wireless protocal to return mouse data to the computer. however its entirely possible to make a mouse an entirely passive device. whereby it receives a signal though induction, modulates that signal with passive components, and then transmits it back to the pad, much like an rfid tag. there are other methods too, like using a camera to track a mouselike device which is essentially a marker.