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Offline Klaustrophobia

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my old PS2 keyboard whined at 3 keypresses.
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So I would argue that they are adding more USB ports in place of the PS/2.

Which sucks.  :(  PS/2 has n-key rollover, USB does not. Try moving in 3D space with just 2 keys, then use a PS/2 keyboard and get another dimension of movement. See if you can go back to 2 keys easily.

Thankfully, my 990FXA-UD3 has a PS/2 port despite being the newest chipset. And I have an old PS/2 Logitech keyboard. It may not matter to typists, but if I want to go down, strafe left, move back, look up and look right at the same time, I need either a $100+ USB gaming keyboard... or a $10 PS/2 keyboard.
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i remember each and every ps2 keyboard i ever had whine and make the pc speaker beep when i pressed 3 buttons at the same time. back when i still used ps2 kb's. and pc speakers in the pc anyhow...
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So I would argue that they are adding more USB ports in place of the PS/2.

Which sucks.  :(  PS/2 has n-key rollover, USB does not. Try moving in 3D space with just 2 keys, then use a PS/2 keyboard and get another dimension of movement. See if you can go back to 2 keys easily.

Thankfully, my 990FXA-UD3 has a PS/2 port despite being the newest chipset. And I have an old PS/2 Logitech keyboard. It may not matter to typists, but if I want to go down, strafe left, move back, look up and look right at the same time, I need either a $100+ USB gaming keyboard... or a $10 PS/2 keyboard.
i dont know what you are smoking, but, i can has some?

i remember each and every ps2 keyboard i ever had whine and make the pc speaker beep when i pressed 3 buttons at the same time. back when i still used ps2 kb's. and pc speakers in the pc anyhow...

Funny. Every last one of my PS/2 keyboards supports at minimum 3 keys. (Note: thats forward, then + left, then + up. thats W, A, Space) I can also press E to open my inv mid-flight without the keyboard complaining.

As long as they keys don't conflict (Shift vs Space, A vs D, W vs S, etc) I can use as many keys as I want to. If they do conflict, they just cancel each other out (A + D = no side movement)

And no, its not some top-of-the-line keyboard. It's just some POS generic logitech, like this one.
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So I would argue that they are adding more USB ports in place of the PS/2.

Which sucks.  :(  PS/2 has n-key rollover, USB does not. Try moving in 3D space with just 2 keys, then use a PS/2 keyboard and get another dimension of movement. See if you can go back to 2 keys easily.

Thankfully, my 990FXA-UD3 has a PS/2 port despite being the newest chipset. And I have an old PS/2 Logitech keyboard. It may not matter to typists, but if I want to go down, strafe left, move back, look up and look right at the same time, I need either a $100+ USB gaming keyboard... or a $10 PS/2 keyboard.
i dont know what you are smoking, but, i can has some?

i remember each and every ps2 keyboard i ever had whine and make the pc speaker beep when i pressed 3 buttons at the same time. back when i still used ps2 kb's. and pc speakers in the pc anyhow...

Funny. Every last one of my PS/2 keyboards supports at minimum 3 keys. (Note: thats forward, then + left, then + up. thats W, A, Space) I can also press E to open my inv mid-flight without the keyboard complaining.

As long as they keys don't conflict (Shift vs Space, A vs D, W vs S, etc) I can use as many keys as I want to. If they do conflict, they just cancel each other out (A + D = no side movement)

And no, its not some top-of-the-line keyboard. It's just some POS generic logitech, like this one.
thing is, i can do the same damn thing on my Logitech "Media Keyboard 600", which i paid $20 for. i know for a fact that i had the 3 key issue in FSO back as a kid when i played exclusively with the keyboard. using the roll keys on the numpad was ****ing impossible if i wanted to afterburn and shoot at something at the same time.


i dont know why or how, but i can tell you this for sure, i havent had the issue with any of my recent usb keyboards. (some generic genius "gaming" kb, tossed it when the keys started getting stuck, genius ergomedia 700, which was an ingenious keyboard and the most comfortable one to type on so far, but a glass of wine it wont survive)



 and yes, i can do the same damn thing in minecraft as you can.
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Actually I figured it out. This isn't a Microsoft Mouse. It's a dell mouse.

I end-tasked Intellipoint and the USB one started working. Intellipoint was overriding the other mouse.

Microsoft should tell users these things.

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this is actually funny. a few months ago my brother in law gave me a box loaded with computer stuffs, mostly cables but a few keyboards and mice. there were like 6 mince, one was a no-name usb optical, 2 logitechs, and the rest were dell and ms, all older ball mice. some of them worked and some of them needed cleaning, of course when i opened the ms and dell mice i noticed that their design was completely identical down to every detail as if they used the same molds. i also noticed that the electronics were identical, only difference were the markings on the microcontroller that drives the thing. it is common for hardware developers to grind the tops of the chips so that both their original markings can be removed, and so that they can put their own markings in their place (this prevents end users from reverse engineering their firmware sources, which is easier than reverse engineering cp software considering the code size and small instruction sets used by microcontrollers). why this is such a secret that they need to do this expensive process is beyond me, as an idiot with an arduino can make a mouse in 5 minutes.

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ms and dell mice are exactly the same, they just have different logos painted on them.
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Offline MP-Ryan

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I've got a wireless mouse that doesn't require batteries

*waits for someone to guess how this is possible*

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Offline BrotherBryon

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I've got a wireless mouse that doesn't require batteries

*waits for someone to guess how this is possible*

It squeaks, eats out of your cupboard, and leaves little brown pellet presents on your countertops?

A quick google search yields this. http://www.tomshardware.com/news/genius-mouse-wireless-gold-capacitor,14529.html
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Offline Nuke

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supercaps arepretty awesome. but id guess inductive power transfer. one way to accomplish this is with an inductive mat possibly under or in place of the mouse pad, which powers the mouse through an inductor. mouse would itself be exactly the same as a battery operated mouse, using a bluetooth or other wireless protocal to return mouse data to the computer. however its entirely possible to make a mouse an entirely passive device. whereby it receives a signal though induction, modulates that signal with passive components, and then transmits it back to the pad, much like an rfid tag. there are other methods too, like using a camera to track a mouselike device which is essentially a marker.
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