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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: An4ximandros on May 23, 2013, 10:54:58 pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqf1lhK2yjo
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Enjoy this pointless, time wasting debate.
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wha? so I was pronouncing it the wrong way all along?
sorry, will keep on doing it, JIF is too alien for me right now.
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The G is short for Graphics and therefore it's a hard G in the shortened version.
I couldn't give a toss for those who want to pronounce it jif.
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i was completely taken aback the first time i heard someone pronounce it with a hard g. it just sounds terribly awkward that way.
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I dunno, the hard g is the natural choice for me (because the german language has no phonem that turns g + vocal into a j)
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I dunno, the hard g is the natural choice for me (because the german language has no phonem that turns g + vocal into a j)
same for croatia.
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Well, when pronounced 'Jif', I just think of a sink-cleaner you used to be able to get in the UK (Now changed its name to Cif), so I pronounce it with a hard 'G', but the other pronunciation is acceptable in modern English, just look at Giraffe ;)
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JIF is a kind of peanut butter, and they can get out.
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I'm english and i have always pronounced it with a hard g
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I'm english and i have always pronounced it with a hard g
Exactly, it's gift without the "t" therefore gif.
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you're all being way too prescriptivist about this
everyone pronounces it with a hard g, 'jiff' sounds stupid, it's well within the bounds of english orthography — it's pronounced with a hard g
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JIF is a kind of peanut butter, and they can get out.
I know you did not just knock JIF peanut butter. Because I mean, if you did we're going to have trouble. (http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-colbert.gif)
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If you take the raphics off graphics its the soft g, same as dropping the t of gift.
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Yup, the main argument for the hard 'G' is the fact it is an acronym, not a stand-alone word, the word it represents starts with a hard 'G' itself, but then if you wanted to be pedantic, you could argue therefore that Jpeg should be pronounced 'Jerpeg', because the first work of that acronym is 'Joint' ;)
Edit: At the end of the day, regardless of what the author desires, the word will become what it becomes, that's the nature of language.
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Well, when pronounced 'Jif', I just think of a sink-cleaner you used to be able to get in the UK (Now changed its name to Cif), so I pronounce it with a hard 'G', but the other pronunciation is acceptable in modern English, just look at Giraffe ;)
Ohh, so Jif is indeed Cif. I always wondered where they went...
I'm so used to pronouncing "GIF" in hard G.
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The only people I've ever heard pronounce it as 'jiff' are the same people I don't trust to handle their e-mail address responsibly.
Also, for bonus points: PNG is pronounced the same as the word 'ping', not 'pee-enn-jee'.
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also jpeg is pronounced "zhpeg"
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am i the only one who spells out file extensions. i call it a gee eye eff not a gif or a gif.
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I had no idea there were people who called a "Gif" a "Jif." I guess I can see why, but it's interesting.
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There was a line in an ancient Strong Bad e-mail that had to do with this. "And add lots of animated GIFs. Or JIFs. I dunno, I heard two nerds arguing about it once."
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Hard G. Say it how you want, so will I. End of story.
Or, just, y'know, holy war.
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Yeah, Steve Wilhite officially said,
(http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/519d30ca69bedd612200000d/itspronouncedjif.gif)
http://www.businessinsider.com/jif-peanut-butter-on-gifs-official-pronunciation-2013-5
I used to pronounce with hard G too, but I don't think the switch is hard since I enjoy Jif's creamy peanut butter.
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Well, the White House (http://whitehouse.tumblr.com/post/48938628507/the-white-house-tumbling-things) says it's a hard 'G'. Though granted, that was before this info came out.
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I've never heard of Jif's creamy peanut butter
Either way, I say extensions as they make sense to me. Example:
Also, for bonus points: PNG is pronounced the same as the word 'ping', not 'pee-enn-jee'.
Ping doesn't make sense for me
GIF makes more sense as I derive it from a T-less GIFT
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enm
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Also, for bonus points: PNG is pronounced the same as the word 'ping', not 'pee-enn-jee'.
Ping doesn't make sense for me
I always pronounced it "PING!" (! is necessary) because it makes me feel like a submarine captain stalking a convoy of pixel-tankers.
Much more interesting than "pee enn jee".
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Meh.. sounds to me that Steve Wilhite just wanted everyone to remember his name, so he inflamed a small, unimportant nerd controversy. Kablamo, now even I know his name. Good work, Steve.
(http://img.pandawhale.com/36243-slow-clap-citizen-kane-orson-w-JFoV.gif)
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I say we simply all convert to using PNG so as to avoid this nonsense.
Is there actually any advantage to using GIF anymore?
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Built-in animation support for pretty much everything.
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Yeah, I just looked it up. I never realised that animPNG formats were such a quagmire.
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i didn't know they could do it at all.
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Yeah, I just looked it up. I never realised that animPNG formats were such a quagmire.
It's not that bad. A few years back, there were few programs that had native support for APNG, Firefox being one of them. At least there's a small list of programs that either have native support for APNG or can view APNG with a plug-in now.
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Pretty straightforward - He's wrong. It's a hard G. Just like Mt Everest is pronounced "Ever-Rest" even though the guy it's named after pronounced his name "Eve-Rist" or something like that. He doesn't get to decide the pronunciation, we do.
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So..."jif"? :confused:
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So..."jif"? :confused:
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/38185148.jpg)
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Yeah, I just looked it up. I never realised that animPNG formats were such a quagmire.
It's not that bad. A few years back, there were few programs that had native support for APNG, Firefox being one of them. At least there's a small list of programs that either have native support for APNG or can view APNG with a plug-in now.
Based on what I've read, there's no formal standard for it, and the PNG group rejected the APNG format in favour of whatever bastardised solution they completely failed to actually produce in the end.
So basically we're stuck with this nonsense where you can either agree with 99% of the population of the planet on the pronunciation but occasionally have to deal with some know-it-all arsewipe correcting you, or spend the rest of your life putting up with people looking at you and saying "What's an animjif?"
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So basically we're stuck with this nonsense where you can either agree with 99% of the population of the planet on the pronunciation but occasionally have to deal with some know-it-all arsewipe correcting you, or spend the rest of your life putting up with people looking at you and saying "What's an animjif?"
This. Let's just accept that Steve Wilhite was brilliant in creating the image format, but he should have taken a remedial English class before naming it.
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JIF is a kind of peanut butter, and they can get out.
My thoughts exactly.
EDIT:
.JPG is pronounced "jay-peg", right? Because they are actually .JPEG (switched to .JPG b/c of MD-DOS / FAT-16 8.3 filename limits)
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No, it's pronounced jeerperged-z
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The other pronunciation would be "jay-pee-gee" :P
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Even before this whole kerfuffle, I think I wound up saying "jif" more than I did "gif," though I tended to use the two interchangeably. Lord knows what I'll use now. :p
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What that guy who created it said makes no difference. He was working for CompuServe so they have the right to name it not him anyway.
On a side note anyone else remember the great attempt of CompuServe to charge a fee for every .gif if you didn't belong to CompuServe?
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I know you did not just knock JIF peanut butter. Because I mean, if you did we're going to have trouble.
No. Actually it's the only peanut butter I buy. JIF supremacy all up in this thread.
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After all, choosy moms choose JIF.
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(http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/i-m3Cw3dX/0/950x10000/i-m3Cw3dX-950x10000.jpg)