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Title: What is the best competitive eSports game?
Post by: Nakura on March 02, 2014, 11:06:25 am
Which game do you think is the best competitive eSports game? I'm leaning towards StarCraft.
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Post by: Phantom Hoover on March 02, 2014, 11:13:28 am
freespace 2
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Post by: BritishShivans on March 02, 2014, 11:16:14 am
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Title: Re: What is the best competitive eSports game?
Post by: Nakura on March 02, 2014, 11:19:28 am
freespace 2

I wish FS had a large eSports community.
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Post by: headdie on March 02, 2014, 11:21:45 am
dont know cause I like playing CS bit also like watching SC2
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Post by: Phantom Hoover on March 02, 2014, 11:24:58 am
freespace 2

I wish FS had a large eSports community.

it does, you might've missed the trick to getting in though (the trick is: playing freespace 2)
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Post by: Scourge of Ages on March 02, 2014, 11:36:38 am
World of Tanks?
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Post by: SypheDMar on March 02, 2014, 03:32:28 pm
freespace 2

I wish FS had a large eSports community.
I wish it had better multiplayer.
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Post by: Dragon on March 02, 2014, 04:22:44 pm
it does, you might've missed the trick to getting in though (the trick is: playing freespace 2)
FS2 doesn't have an eSport community, just a (crappy) multiplayer mode. We're talking professional competitions you can win actual money in, like you get with StarCraft and the like.
Title: Re: What is the best competitive eSports game?
Post by: Nakura on March 02, 2014, 04:24:05 pm
it does, you might've missed the trick to getting in though (the trick is: playing freespace 2)
FS2 doesn't have an eSport community, just a (crappy) multiplayer mode. We're talking professional competitions you can win actual money in, like you get with StarCraft and the like.

I'm sure we could put together an eSports multiplayer mod and maybe start up a pro community of our own?
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Post by: Dragon on March 02, 2014, 04:44:56 pm
I'm afraid this community is too small for that, not to mention we would probably run into legal issues at some point if we did start to hand out monetary prizes (we're not the original devs, nor do we have an official permission from them). Besides, I'm afraid FS multiplayer is too finicky for that, I've tried setting it up, and couldn't manage to get it to connect.
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Post by: Phantom Hoover on March 02, 2014, 05:09:36 pm
FSO netcode is very nineties and shoddy from what I've heard, which means death in a game where combat takes place entirely with relatively slow-moving projectiles.
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Post by: AdmiralRalwood on March 02, 2014, 05:14:43 pm
Snuffleupugus.
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Post by: NGTM-1R on March 02, 2014, 05:25:51 pm
Snuffleupugus.
Title: Re: What is the best competitive eSports game?
Post by: MP-Ryan on March 02, 2014, 11:16:20 pm
Define 'best.'

Biggest userbase?  Established ladder system?  Player experience?  Complexity?  etc etc etc

In terms of size and dedication of the userbase in actual competition, I doubt there's anything that can even touch StarCraft.
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Post by: QuantumDelta on March 03, 2014, 05:48:10 am
Starcraft wins (I'm not really a fan but whatever, nothing is even close to SC, only thing that ever got close was CS, LoL is trying hard these days but frankly isn't ubiquitous enough).

As for FreeSpace - I've played a lot of multiplayer games and there was never a game where skill set you apart from your peers so dramatically (next closest that I played is probably Tribes).
If you were even fractionally better than your opponent you were virtually untouchable. If it could've been an esport, and hadn't been so niche it would've been king, especially considering how tactical multiple opponents vs could get.

SquadWars was an excellent example of early 'esports' before it evolved into what it is now.
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Post by: Ghostavo on March 03, 2014, 07:01:01 am
Define 'best.'

Biggest userbase?  Established ladder system?  Player experience?  Complexity?  etc etc etc

In terms of size and dedication of the userbase in actual competition, I doubt there's anything that can even touch StarCraft.

Nowadays I wouldn't be so sure, League of Legends has a really huge userbase, and is (hour count) the most played video game in the world.
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Post by: CKid on March 03, 2014, 07:10:43 am
Speaking of Esports, me and my team have made it to the finals of the Bronze League (http://worldoftanks.com/en/news/eSports/wglna-bronze-finals-march-3/) for World of Tanks. It will be live steamed with a 10 minute delay later today. The award isn't cash, but we are moving up to silver league next season. (Gold league is where you get cash payouts) I'am on the team "I Love Lamp".
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Post by: Grizzly on March 03, 2014, 07:18:22 am
I'm missing GTL, Rfactor, Trackmania, iRacing and the like in here. They might not be as well publicized, but there's quite a bit of competition in there, esp. in the case of iRacing (where you can earn money).

it does, you might've missed the trick to getting in though (the trick is: playing freespace 2)
FS2 doesn't have an eSport community, just a (crappy) multiplayer mode. We're talking professional competitions you can win actual money in, like you get with StarCraft and the like.

I think the point is that Nakura, unlike most (every other?) member of HLP, apperently has not played FS2 yet (whilst I am sure he will actually love it, as FS2 has some interesting political undertones).
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Post by: Rodo on March 03, 2014, 08:39:01 am
I'd have to say right now for me it's WoT as well, been sinking a lot of hours on it and this little bugger is one hell of a competition parade.
I even got two work mates to join me and do some fun runs on low tiers every now and then. Good times.
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Post by: Spoon on March 03, 2014, 06:18:54 pm
Purely as a spectator sport, I find WoT is one of the most boring things to watch ever.
I do however, enjoy SC2 on a regular basis. Somebody nerf koreans, because they are too damn good at the game.
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Post by: Scourge of Ages on March 03, 2014, 08:30:01 pm
Speaking of Esports, me and my team have made it to the finals of the Bronze League (http://worldoftanks.com/en/news/eSports/wglna-bronze-finals-march-3/) for World of Tanks. It will be live steamed with a 10 minute delay later today.

I've never actually *watched* any sort of e-sport, besides a Starcraft 2 match in the background of a TotalBiscuit rant. I'll be lurking a bit I suppose, maybe pick up some tactics.

Although, now that I think of it, there's a Minecraft mod called "Hungercraft" that was played competitively with commentators and stuff on Twitch, does that count?
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Post by: Mongoose on March 03, 2014, 10:44:01 pm
DOTA2 seems to be the huge thing at the moment, what with The International and all, but even beyond not caring for playing that style of game, I can't see what makes people drool over it as a spectator sport.  I watched a bit of one or two matches, and the commentators were going ape**** over someone using one power at a certain point, and it felt like I'd need to know a hell of a lot about the game to even care about what was going on.  At least with StarCraft, you can see a Zergling rush wipe out a bunch of enemy units and know that **** just went down.

(Honestly though I have little to no interest in "eSports" in general.)
Title: Re: What is the best competitive eSports game?
Post by: Nakura on March 04, 2014, 12:18:48 am
StarCraft eSports master race:
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Post by: Zacam on March 04, 2014, 10:06:27 am
StarCraft, namely because for one nation? It's their Nascar+NFL+WWF/E.

Sure, LoL can spectacle just as much and has large crowds at events here in NA, but it's still young compared to the rolling Juggernaut that really kicked off eSports -and still holds it-.

Other competitive games would be Quake (for FPS genre), it still holds titled tournaments to this day. May not be as large as the current gen shooters, but it's been unflaggingly consistent in its presence.

Not sure about stick-fighter based, but I'm pretty sure there is and has been a persistent penetration there and the more favored franchise seems to be Street Fighter.

I used to be a part of the Need For Speed franchise racing during eSports 1.0 (early/mid 90's) along with Descent ladder matches.
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Post by: Grizzly on March 04, 2014, 12:37:50 pm
Which ones in particular? I am a huge fan of the second and third installments.
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Post by: TrashMan on March 04, 2014, 02:58:08 pm
Meh..

The only MP games I play are Planetside 2, World of Tanks, Attack on Titan and Allegiance...also played War of the Roses and various Battlefield and counter-Strike for a while.

So "e-sports" really don't interest me much. Them koreans be crazy.
Title: Re: What is the best competitive eSports game?
Post by: SypheDMar on March 06, 2014, 06:16:44 pm
For the record, I'm the guy who voted for Smash. :nervous:

As an aside, there was an MLG-sponsored Smash Bros. tournament hosted by my student organization a couple of weeks ago.


e: I took "best" to mean "my favorite".
Title: Re: What is the best competitive eSports game?
Post by: Nakura on March 08, 2014, 11:36:56 pm
StarCraft, namely because for one nation? It's their Nascar+NFL+WWF/E.
Nah, because it's the most fun to play and watch, imho. Plus it's the most widespread eSport and the most balanced (well, SC1 is anyway).
Title: Re: What is the best competitive eSports game?
Post by: Lorric on March 23, 2014, 03:26:35 pm
I used to get plenty of enjoyment from watching people duke it out in Warcraft 3. Also, with Warcraft 3 there are so many weird and wonderful custom maps outside the core competitive experience, that once in a blue moon you can get the enjoyment of watching one.

Now though I don't get much enjoyment out of it. I think it's because everyone who's still left's playstyle has gotten so refined. Everyone does the same things, everyone knows what works and what doesn't.

Anyway, Warcraft 3 is my pick.