[Sandwich]

Originally posted by NeoHunter
Where can I find them? Don't just nod your head!!!

No - I was agreeing with you, I find it hard to visualize, and I want to see them, too! Silly!

[Bobboau]

""BSP"Gen..?"

it's the name of V's pof export plugin for 3Ds

[NeoHunter]

Originally posted by sandwich


No - I was agreeing with you, I find it hard to visualize, and I want to see them, too! Silly!

Oops!:o

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by NeoHunter


Oops!:o

*Will Smith voice* "No more "Oops", ok?!"

[NeoHunter]

Originally posted by sandwich


*Will Smith voice* "No more "Oops", ok?!"

[Ewok voice]YUB YUB COMMANDER!!!:nod:[/Ewok voice]

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by NeoHunter


[Ewok voice]YUB YUB COMMANDER!!!:nod:[/Ewok voice]

LOL!

Well, if I have my timezones right, you should be heading back right about now, or something like that. Have a good time, dude, and come back safe!

[WMCoolmon]

Can't you guys go back off-topic? The conversation was just getting interesting too...

[Sandwich]

Ka-BUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now that a number of new NJO books have come out, and the end is in sight, I want to revive this thread. So...

Originally posted by KillMeNow
they really need to learn from good old emperor palpatines book - those vong are lucky they didn't arive 30 years earlier

That point is mentioned a number of times in the books. I forget where, though.

I've read up to/through "Traitor"; since I refuse to spend inordinate amounts of money on hardcover books, I have to wait until August until "Destiny's Way" comes out in paperback. But in the meantime, I want to point out a few tie-ins NJO authors are making to the far past:

Greg Bear's "Rouge Planet" - set in between Ep. 1 and 2 - involves as part of the backstory how Vergere - Elan's familiar, who is revealed to have originated in this galaxy in Hero's Trial, came to join the Vong. It also involves Zonoma Sekot, a planet that is part of the plotline of "Force Heretic 1: Remnant", and perhaps the other 2 Force Heretic books

Don't read the spoiler if you plan on reading "Rogue Planet", although you discover part what I'm going to say on page 50:

Spoiler:

Vergere is/was a Jedi Padawan/Knight? Coolness. I also appreciate the link between Anakin/Vader's knowledge of the Vong's existance, and the Emperor's knowledge of a distant threat against which he sent Thrawn and the rest of the Chiss back in the day.

Another link to Star Wars past is the e-book Ylesia, which involves the planet Ylesia from the Han Solo Trilogy, written back in 1997.

Of those two above tie-ins, I'd say that the "Rogue Planet" one is more important to understanding things, especially since there are two or three whole NJO books that involve the planet, whereas "Ylesia" is but a measly e-book. But whatevers...

Random thought: What happens to Droma, that Ryn buddy of Han's earlier on in the NJO series? Do you think they'll eventually write him in to be the Chewie "replacement" that he was temporarily, or has he fulfilled his destiny already?

What're people's thoughts concerning how the Jedi understanding of the Force is being mutated and changed in the latest books, esp. in "Traitor"?

{/Warsie mode}

Ok, I think that should be plenty of substance to revive this thread. Gopher it!

[Warlock]

i've always enjoyed the links that they've used. Even Nom Anonr is actually an older SW EU character (Crimson Empire...1 or 2 can't recall which).

As to the understanding of the Force, I personally love it. It makes much more since if you think about it. It's been long argued whether or not the Darkside was an act of using the force in a certain way, or by the PERSON using the force. of the RPG groups get into that debate over things like "But if I used Force Lightning to save someone's life, is that dark?"

The planet, not going to spoil it for you, but let's leave it at it's going to be a MAJOR plot point for at least the Force Heretic books.

Droma hasn't been mentioned too much, but the Ryn come back into play near the end of the last book, so we might see Droma pop back into the series.

Also, when you read Destiny's Way, pay of attention to the last two pages Not syaing more than ..........it's a possible hint about something with the Vong

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Warlock
i've always enjoyed the links that they've used. Even Nom Anonr is actually an older SW EU character (Crimson Empire...1 or 2 can't recall which).

Ahh - I never did manage to get any SW comics... parhaps I should start looking.

The planet, not going to spoil it for you, but let's leave it at it's going to be a MAJOR plot point for at least the Force Heretic books.

Well, yeah - I actually have the first of that sub-series, and I've read the back cover, but I'm not gonna read the book itself out of chronological order. So I know what the cover says, as well as what the SW site says about the books.

Droma hasn't been mentioned too much, but the Ryn come back into play near the end of the last book, so we might see Droma pop back into the series.

How do you know? It's not even written yet.

[Warlock]

Originally posted by Sandwich


How do you know? It's not even written yet.

I meant the last one OUT  Force Heretic 1.

[Sandwich]

Ahh.

So... you have read Rogue Planet, I assume?

[Warlock]

Yup, read that when it first came out,...really liked the link between it and the NJO series.

[KillMeNow]

jsut thought i would chip in here again

with teh fall of courcant the nr died - there can be no question of that now its called the galatic alliance now

however in a way it has saved them the beauracy of courscant was an arena the vong had voices in and that cost the nr

however courscants could have been the anvil on which they crushed the vong they had them trapped between teh sheilds and a large nr fleet  by lowering the planetary shields they saved noone can condemed billions and courscant population is more than 35 billion earths population is only 6 billion and thing how many areas of it are complete dierted vast amjority of it is water/ ice/ desert or grassland courcsant is populated over the entire surface in huge building that rise up for miles

so they killed of people that day

anyway the so called turning point in teh war has apparently happened in a book i'venot read and of whihc the reviews are highlydubious with the author changing squadrons to sectors??????? damned f i know why and now squadrons are groups of capital ships now not fighters

the debate of whatsmoral or not is still going on which i feel is unrealistic - a huge number of planets have fallen to the vong galactic moral has to be increibully low and the populations backs are against the wall certainly its human nature under such circumstances to lash out and fight back every shipyeard in the galaxy wqould be producing ships and then in time attrition would let the native popualtions win agains the  vong

i dont know maybe they jsut wanted to change things maybe the njo was a way of getting rid of the stagnating nr and replacing tiwith something more lively

what i want to know is how finding a planet will help the end the war the living planet as i recall was deeply routed int eh force and dind't share teh  vongs views on anythign the reason it fled was a encounter with early vong incursion

and with teh mroal issueit seems unlikely the vong will be killed ot the last man which is what it would require

other things with teh whole tahiri things in renmant does anyone get the feeling anakin might not be dead?

anyway i'm rambling - not good at making concise statements

basically i think njo is better than ti was in teh early book with constant defeats but still no as good as the x-wing series

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by KillMeNow
anyway i'm rambling - not good at making concise statements

Periods are A1-SUP4R.

I haven't read Remnant yet, so I can't comment on the Tahiri thing except to say that for the longest time I was convinced that they'd bring Chewie back, esp. since they didn't find his body. But now...

About the planet, I think that any crucial effect it could have on the war would be the rejection of the Vong by it - recall the Vong reaction to discovering that the pollen of the Boffur (sp?) trees was lethal to the voduun crab armor? They were flabbergasted that a piece of nature was rejecting them. Could be the same type of thing here, on a much greater scale.

[Warlock]

Well I was going to direct quote and reply,..but I can't tell where some things start and others end up there  LOL

Anyways,...yea me and my gf both got that "Anakin might come back" feeling,...but IF he does,..I don't think it would be simply "Poof he didn't die" ,... his body was burned an all. I'm more to the thought the whole deal is something in Tahri's subconcsious.

As for the planet, don't forget part of it is the fact that it was able to hold the Vong off on it's own AND the story Vergere told Jason about it. Once the leader was killed the planet itself basically took over. That might be a big key to defeating the Vong.

The Squadron comment, honest I never noticed in any of the books where anything other than a group of fighters were referred to as anything but a squadron. But in that book the turning point is pretty big and quite reasonable. (Destiny's Way if I'm correct)

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Warlock
Well I was going to direct quote and reply,..but I can't tell where some things start and others end up there  LOL

Well, that's ok - we allow him a bit of eccentricity in exchange for him being one of the local SW experts (or nuts, depending on your own views on the subject... ).

Originally posted by Warlock
As for the planet, don't forget part of it is the fact that it was able to hold the Vong off on it's own AND the story Vergere told Jason about it. Once the leader was killed the planet itself basically took over. That might be a big key to defeating the Vong.

From what I understood solely from "Rogue Planet" (haven't read "Destiny's Way" yet, remember), The Vong pretty much wiped out the southern hemisphere, and it was only through Vergere's offering to go with them that they withdrew. Yeah, you see that the planet has some pretty unique and special abilities in the end battle of that book, but I must have missed anything that indicated that it was able to hold off the Vong.