[Nico]

Unemployment in France is at 9.6 in mars and 10.5 in Germany  ( http://fr.biz.yahoo.com/040318/85/3pd8h.html , http://www.lexpansion.com/NLConj/2205.29.html, in french )

Originally posted by Liberator
What is the unemployment rate in the USA?  At or around 4%.  And our economy's supposed to be in the tank?

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

5.7% in mars
Get your numbers straight, thank you.

[Bobboau]

in mars?

[Martinus]

[color=66ff00]March in French IIRC.
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[Bobboau]

ah,
I think that's the first time he's ever done that

[Nico]

ah, yeah, oups, sorry

[Ghostavo]

Unemployment in Germany is the highest in Europe if I'm not mistaken... average unemployment?

Your point?

[mikhael]

Originally posted by Liberator
I just don't understand the utter hatred of the USA that is floating around.

Try living half your life out in the rest of the world. You get to see the way americans act when they're not at home and you get to see the way American dictates to the rest of the world. You get to see stuff that never gets reported here in the US.

Of course, all of that misses the point. Political satire in the form of tshirts and bumper stickers mocking the US Government, politics, policies, etc, is not "utter hatred of the USA". Its proper political dissent and good humor.

Only a conservative could conflate making fun of **** and Cheny into "utter hatred of the USA"

Its a funny thing that "patriots" and "conservatives" don't find much humor when they're the butt of the jokes.

[Kazan]

liberator: those stickers were made by americans nimrod

the "small' job rebound was still nothing next to the jobs lost in that very month - AND every other economic factor is looking bad

we have a price bubble is housing for christ sakes - if that bursts say hello to the Great Depression II, it will have to be slowly eased off and deflated which is going to take a freaking economic genius smarter than greenspan to manage.


Liberator is all ready to continue repeating SEIG HEIL to **** and his chronies out of sheer ignorance.  Let me recommend some reading material: "****whacked" - everything in there is in public records

[mikhael]

"Bushwhacked" was pretty funny, and raises some good points. So did her previous book about ol' Shrub.

However, like Michael Moore and Al Franken, I can't help but wonder what details they are artfully avoiding to keep the message so solidly anti-****. Their opposite numbers, like Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly and Ann Coulter, are just as bad at revealing only facts (well sorta, Ann Coulter makes stuff up pretty blatantly in "Treason") that support their attack on their target-du-jour.

What I wouldn't do for a book of political commentary that gave complete, footnoted facts and left nothing out. *le-sigh*

[Kazan]

that's why they're careful to make sure everything is a matter of public record so you can go and confirm what they've said

[Rictor]

I read about 5 pages of Treason before I closed the file (what, you didn't think I'de actuall pay for it, HA). Afterwards, this was me



I too find Moore and Franken (never read anything of his, but judging by the title of his book...) to be a bit too "entertaining". Not that its a bad thing, to each his own. They appeal more to "the masses" who like to be amused in order to digest their politics.

Personally, I prefer someone like Noam Chomsky or Naomi Klien. True, while they are less "fun" to read, the present their arguements in a better way, because they don't have to focus on keeping the reader entertained. I guess you could call them more "scholarly". I don't have to be amused in order to find the book compleling, so I appreciate the effort that is put into making the writing relevant.

edit: The pic comes with the lower portion attached (its a tshirt) so I couldn't be bothered to Photoshop it out and upload it.

[mikhael]

So in case anyone has missed the SATIRE in other threads that references back to this thread, here's the pertinent quotes:

Originally posted by Liberator
I just don't understand the utter hatred of the USA that is floating around.

Originally posted by Liberator
Didn't say they weren't funny, I just don't understand the the ambient hatred for the USA that spawned them.