[Rictor]

[Tiara]

[Rictor]

oh my god, his face is melting!

[Tiara]

Nah, he's just not wearing any make-up and his favorite wig is at the dry cleaner's

[Vaelinx]

Ketchup is a great condiment IMHO... made with tomato, one of my favorite American (contintents, not countries) fruits.  Sweet, tasty, healthy (as long as they don't use too much salt), and good for the prostate...  what's there to hate?  I wonder if this brand is any good?  Let me know, Templar, when your two cases arrive.

Anyhow, there's nothing wrong with this kind of patriotism...  it harms nobody and they may provide a decent product.  They just use a marketing gimmik...  no better or worse than McDonald's or the ma and pop store down the street.

I buy Australian and French wine, and I'd buy French and Swiss cheese more if it could get to me fast enough.  Why wouldn't I buy a product that my home country is patriotic about, as long as it's good?

This has nothing to do with freedom fries, which was a limited and stupid thing that recieved tons of media attention and blown out of perspective... like most trivial and stupid things...  Besides, I'm willing to let the French and the Belgians continue to fight it out over who came up with the fried potato first... (this famous tuber is another native American plant)  but the "French" seem to be winning and "freedom" and "Belgian" losing as far as the fried potato is concerned.

Other American produce that are more or less contriversial include: avacado, chocolate (cacao), peppers (not the spice pepper, but the capsicum variety), cranberry and strawberry (and many other "berries"), pineapple, and of course corn...

[Grey Wolf]

What's really surprising is that people don't realize the fact that most people don't quite seem to realize that neither Kerry nor his wife own very much Heinz stock at all.

[Rictor]

I think she owns about 4%.

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Originally posted by Vaelinx
made with tomato,

If you're lucky.

[Vaelinx]

Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB


If you're lucky.

Yow... but true... make sure you check the ingredients...  Tomato makes the ketchup...  repeat that 1000 times any you can believe it too

[Dark_4ce]

Originally posted by Rictor
Also, Heinz has donated MORE to the Republiucans than they have to the Democrats. Check their "Comments" sections.




I would hope that this never becomes illegal. People have a right to say what they want and sell what they want. And so far as I can see, these guys are donating to a charity that puts the kids of KIA soldiers through college, and does not support either political party.

What is stupid is what they are saying, not that they have the right to say it.

Nonono. I didn't mean that. People in finland have a right to post their political views and state them in whatever way they wish. But it is illegal to defame another product in order to better your own. They personally attack Heinz in name, saying that their own product is better. In finland that is illegal because that is defaming the other product and not maaking equal marketing.

[Knight Templar]

Originally posted by Vaelinx
Ketchup is a great condiment IMHO... made with tomato, one of my favorite American (contintents, not countries) fruits.  Sweet, tasty, healthy (as long as they don't use too much salt), and good for the prostate...  what's there to hate?  I wonder if this brand is any good?  Let me know, Templar, when your two cases arrive.

You don't need me to tell you it's good if Former President Ronald Reagan approved of it.

Silly goose.

[Kamikaze]

This whole "American" flavor thing is silly considering Ketchup isn't even American in origin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketchup

[Vaelinx]

I know some people who've tried it and they said they prefer Heinz.  So whatever.  I think I may have Hunts... dunno, Heinz is pretty much considered a national treasure here.

I stand corrected, after reading the site more carefully, I see that it's Partisanship, not patriotism that is the main advertising gimmik.  Dark Ace, we have similar laws here, just not so restricting.  The fact that the website makes misleading claims is enough to dissuade me, but I don't think it's illegal for Coke to say that Pepsi sucks.  Neither is it illegal for Pepsi to say that Coke sucks.  This is still equal marketing, just slightly more... colorful... you might say.  There are limits to using trademarks etc... in advertising, but they get around it by making vauge, yet specific enough references.

Anyhow, I believe tomato ketchup (which is what we mean today by ketchup) originated in America.  And the main flavor is tomato, which is American in origin...  So it is arguably an "American" flavor.  They're just trying to sell their product to a specific target audience....  Namely gullible US Republicans...  Or people looking for a Novelty food...

[jdjtcagle]

That's fake, right...

[Dark_4ce]

Originally posted by Vaelinx
but I don't think it's illegal for Coke to say that Pepsi sucks.  Neither is it illegal for Pepsi to say that Coke sucks.  This is still equal marketing, just slightly more... colorful... you might say.  There are limits to using trademarks etc... in advertising, but they get around it by making vauge, yet specific enough references.

Yeah you can do that here in Finland too by making vague comments and such like "Ours is better than the leading brand or the "other" brand. Yada yada. Just as long as they don't mention the other companies real name. Because that way you're also asociating yourself with their label and using their logo to market your own product. Even though its negative towards the other brand, their logo gives the buyer a sence of trust because they've bought that brand before. Then when they read the rest where it says it sucks, they go "oh really?" and might buy a bottle to try it out. Even though the add is negative towards the brand, the feeling of trust is implanted in the subconcious. (eg. Heinz is good. They say W is better. I like Heinz. Could W be better? They're not saying its worse... So why not buy a bottle, it can't hurt)

Now I'm not saying this applies for everyone. But mass market people usually fall for simple tricks like this wether they know it or not.

So finland has looked into it that far and realised the potential danger (not literal danger mind you. ) and covered a law for it. To quote and alter AVP a bit "Better to have a law and not need it, than to need a law and not have it."

[Zeronet]

Oooh, might try to buy some of that just for comical value.

[Vaelinx]

Originally posted by Zeronet
Oooh, might try to buy some of that just for comical value.

Yeh, and when you finish it off, you could just refill the bottle with another "leading brand" such as Heinz.

[Ford Prefect]

This would be a lot more fun if Heinz made hard liquor.