[Gank]

Originally posted by redmenace
Looks as if they have armored most of the humvees. But I will say they need to armor the convoy trucks as well.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/203200_armor10.html

Kinda related:
http://fairuse.1accesshost.com/news2/lost-arm.html
http://fairuse.1accesshost.com/news2/salon45.htm

[Unknown Target]

Originally posted by Kazan
liberator is supporting the rise of fascism in america - that's a simple fact

i'm not going to tolerate it - i don't give a rats ****ing ass what his motiviations are, but in the case of him his motive for doing so is as vile as his actions

You DO have to tolerate it Kazan! You are exactly like he is! You say that everyone can disagree, so long as they agree with you! You refuse to allow ANYONE to disagree with you, yet you keep spouting that THEY are taking away our freedoms. Maybe they are, but you're not any better!

[Kazan]

WRONG Unknown target - denouncing someones position is not taking away their right to think for themselves, or discouraging their right to free speech

"your opinion is wrong and harmful" != "asking questions is unamerican"

[Bobboau]

Kaz oftine sounds a lot like them (in the opposite direction of course), but the simple fact is that he is calling for less legislation of beliefes, so he is in no way (other than perhaps superficaly) like liberator and the rest of them.

Liberator ~ "the bible should be made into enforced law"
Kazan ~ "no, and you are and idiot"

se the diference?

[Unknown Target]

Yes, but the way Kazan handles itself not only speaks of fanatisism and uproffesionalism, but it also smacks of the very same behavior he denouces.

[Kazan]

because i have lost patience with them

[Unknown Target]

Because you had no patience for disagreeing points to begin with.

[Kazan]

wrong, and it's both inobservant and insulting that you think so - you're soo busy being annoyed my righteous rage and condemnations that you won't see past my tone of voice to see what im saying

[Unknown Target]

Would you like me to point out my proof of point in your last statement, or can you do that yourself?

For the record: I agree with your statements, I disagree with Liberator, but I'm not attacking your statements and your facts, I'm attacking the way you put them, and the way you handle others.

[Gank]

Poor ould Libby, he hasnt even posted in this thread and hes still getting bashed.

[Janos]

That's his destiny. He will appear soon.

Kaz, however, acts like his tinfoil is overheating and his heat sinks are malfunctioning. ALL THE TIME

[Kazan]

you know it's really ****ing annoying when legitimate statements that are backed up with evidence are called "tinfoil hatting"

*wallops janos for being a moron*

[Janos]

Then maybe you should back up your legitimate statements and not shout them out like "omg usa is a nazi regime you know it" and then bash on everyone who, even though they might not disagree with your point, disagree with your methods of output. It's not zen.

Oh, and
DEREK SMART
DEREK SMART
DEREK SMART

[phreak]

shut the hell up hes registered here

[Kazan]

janos: refer to earlier threads where i did this (cited sources) and got listened to equally well

tell my why i should go through the effort of formulating a professional, source cited, argument when it's effect is no different than letting the fact that im pissed off show and not bothering to cite sources

[Janos]

This thread doesn't count?
Ok here.

You said your point. You are pissed off, that's fine and ok. No problem, understandanle. The fact that you are so pissed off that you just swing around is not.

And as you state, yourself, that:

tell my why i should go through the effort of formulating a professional, source cited, argument when it's effect is no different than letting the fact that im pissed off show and not bothering to cite sources

then you really can't blame people for not agreeing with you but rather get annoyed. Your own actions - which you, btw, acknowledge, lead to the conclusion that your political goals come out as inane ranting and ad hominems.

[Unknown Target]

Thank you Janos.

Kazan, notice that Janos, I, and most everyone else here state most of our opinions and refutes in calm manners. You curse like a sailor, go bonkers, scream, kick, and generally act like a two year old.
Not only that, but in you're so wrapped up in your

righteous rage and condemnations

that you can't see anything past your nose.

You're practically the liberal version of George W. with your my-way-or-the-highway attitude, and your intolerance for people who disagree with you.

[Ford Prefect]

Kazan needs a dosage of ultra-transcendental Buddhism.

[aldo_14]

Empty vessels make most noise.