[aldo_14]

Originally posted by TrashMan


there is no sense of scale in symetric stations/ships? where the hell do you pul this pearls of wisdom fomr?:LOL:

I dunno, maybe my eyesight.  This thing...doesn't look imposing or impressive in any way.  How imposing does a perfect cube or a perfect sphere look?  That's more or less what you have here.  If you find me a ship which looks big and is x/z symmetrical, I'll be muchly surprised.

Look, if you want me to be perfectly blunt and honest......

  It's a dull, derivative design with no outstanding features.  The colour scheme is messy (pink, brown, black/.blue, gray and blak-yellow in the same model).  There are also clearly terran textures on the inner cylinder.

There is clear faceting, which doesn't help the overall blandness of the thing.  I can't find a single piece of aritstic or stylistic merit in it; it looks like you've taken an incredibly simple shape, copied it 5 times, and then made sure to use as many different textures as possible to avoid having to makes sure the sidesof each texture line up correctly.

It even looks horribly low poly.. like maybe 400 or so?

[Lightspeed]

Originally posted by TrashMan

CURRENTLY AVAILABLE:
- GTF Phoenix (added insignia & debris, re-did lower LODs a bit)
- GVF Shrike (100%)
 

You will be surprised. Indeed. :thepimp:

[Noise]

I like them.  As for looking Vasudan or not, let us take an example from ships that came with FS2 and FS1.  Say you were given a Hecate mod for FS1 when only FS1 was released, such a radical departure from the Orion design would have most likely met with criticism the likes of which have seen in this thread.  The solution is simple, just call it a new concept in Vasudan installation design.

[Taristin]

No. The solution is simple, stop trying to salvage failed ideas and call them Vasudan.

[TrashMan]

@Aldo - the station is far more complex than it seems. It took me a long time to do it, and it is a "difficult" design (don't know how to put this..maby unrewarding or ungratefull would be the right word.)
The hull itself has 1426 polys, and that's the lowest I could make it. The design is just like that.
I am working on a more detailed model, but it wil ltake time.

And try testing the model itself insted of just looking at one bad pic.



UPDATED DOWNLOAD:
- Retribution Assault Figate added
- Praetorian gunboat added

Both models have everything (alltough I still haven't put nameplates on the Retribution)

Oh..I am currently working on a Terran heavy bomber that has a beam cannon. Here's the concept pic:


EDIT: Raa, weather you like it or not, it IS vasudan.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by TrashMan
@Aldo - the station is far more complex than it seems. It took me a long time to do it, and it is a "difficult" design (don't know how to put this..maby unrewarding or ungratefull would be the right word.)
The hull itself has 1426 polys, and that's the lowest I could make it. The design is just like that.
I am working on a more detailed model, but it wil ltake time.

And try testing the model itself insted of just looking at one bad pic.

Post it, then.

[TrashMan]

Originally posted by aldo_14


Post it, then.

CURRENTLY AVAILABLE:
- GTF Phoenix (added insignia & debris, re-did lower LODs a bit)
- GVF Shrike (100%)
- Civy Station (100% done)
- Civy Liners (2 liners- all done)
- Columbus Colony Ship(I just noticed it doesn't have fighterpaths)
- Pirate Carriers (2 ships - fully done)
- Abthys Starbase (has it all - except for large docks)
- Gallileo Science Vessel
- Stock Orion and Typhoon (with more turrets)
- Retribution Assault Frigate
- Praetorian gunboat

-Small Texture pack

[aldo_14]

Having looked at it... I stick exactly to what i posted before.  It's the same piece of geometry copied 8 times and then mirrored top-bottom.  You';ve even left the seam line in on the inner cylinder.

  And you're using a Terran dock texture which contrasts horrendously with the blue dock tunnel.  Which itself contrasts with the khaki outside...

ah, the hell with it.  I think it's bland/dull as hell, and it looks as vasudan as a Cerberus snetry gun, but if you want to live with it, fire away.

[TrashMan]

Terran Dock texture? I'm not using a terran dock texture....

You Sir, need to have your eyes examined. Every single texture I used on that station is vasudan. Teh design is vasudan...

you don't have to like it...

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by TrashMan
Terran Dock texture? I'm not using a terran dock texture....

You Sir, need to have your eyes examined. Every single texture I used on that station is vasudan. Teh design is vasudan...

you don't have to like it...

Er...no.

WACTile5 is the standard terran 'windows' map used on AWACS and Deimos.  DocTile3A is the Ganymede (in particular) docking texture.  Beam1 is a Terran texture used for the Mjolnir.  

The fact you've got a gigantic  wodge of Terran texture right in the middle, combined with the semi-schizophrenic use of both blue, white and yellow lights (green if you count the top turrets), does not help the cohesiveness of the design.

And the design is not vasudan in any way I can see.   Maybe if you chopped off the left or right half of it and added some Vasudan looking stuff, it might help.  To me it doesn't have any of the stylistic 'flow' of Vasudan stuff.  Vasudan designs - especially looking at the concept art - are curved and almost ornate in appearance.  The 2 destroyers have an almost-peach shaped curve for the main body, but they also have a lot of additional areas where the model bulges in an out.    They have soft outcroppings of 'arms' (i.e. Aten) or 'petals' (i.e Sobek).  And soforth.

[TrashMan]

YAWN.....

WACTile 5 is Vasudan-loking texture, as are the other two. there's nothing teran about them.
And the design is vasudan. If you don't like it, don't use the station, but it WAS vasudan when I made it, it IS vasudan and it WILL BE vasudan in the future (unless you edit it, re-convert it, and somehow smuggle it under my downloads to replace this one)



Got the nameplates working!
So now I added the Orion MK2 and Retribution for download!

[Paladin1]

Personnaly I like the Vasudan Starbase model, one question though Trashman are all your models compatible with FSO 3.6.5?

[TrashMan]

Yep...

[Paladin1]

Great stuff, keep up the good work.

[Grimloq]

ugh, what a horrible subspace texture...

that lights texture is WAY too terran, trashman. it could be vasudan methinks. but the texturing is off. work on it some more. smooth it out and add vasudan-ey plates to it maybe.

as for the rest of you, he has a point. dont use it if you dont like it. and dont flame it... this is going to get into a flamewar soon methinks.

[Black Wolf]

It's a shame really - the basic concept of the Vasudan Starbase could be adapted to be quite nifty. At the moment though...