[DaBrain]

Maybe this was suggested already, but I can't remember seeing it.

What I have in mind will increase the qulaity for high-end user and increase the performance for low-end user.

I call it "dynamic lod range". This overwrited the lod ranges from the tables according to your fps.

You set the desired fsp value (in my case 30 fps) and the game handles the lods with a simple system.

Low fps means the lower poly ships will be used longer. High fps means you only see lod0 ships.


What do you think about this?

Is it possible?

[karajorma]

It's an interesting idea but what's wrong with using the detail options in-game?

[DaBrain]

Some missions need a faster PC than other missions.
People with low-end systems would have to adjust their settings all the time.

Or they just sacrifice the potential image quality in the less complex (perfomance-wise) missions.

And one other thing would be possible with this feature:

BOE style missions. Everything will be a bit less beautiful, but the performance sill be fine.

(The slower the PC, the less image quality you get.)

This means the modder teams could create super-high-res maps and high-poly ships, as long as the create lods. In a few years´, when the PC are faster, those maps and models won't be a problem for the hardware anymore.

This means the mod would evolve along with the PC hardware.

(Well, at least that's possible )

[karajorma]

Ah. See what you mean now.

[Primus]

I like and fully support your suggestion DaB.

[SuperCoolAl]

I think some games have this feature already, like UT. It turns down/off the special effects based on what fps you set and get (like foliage/projectors/coronas/decals/dynamic lighting). Not sure if it lowers model detail though.

[phatosealpha]

Hm.  Will we also be able to use this to make the game use higher poly ships at a greater distance if we've got the GPU/CPU firepower to do so?

[SuperCoolAl]

yes I think that is also another reason why this is a good idea

[DaBrain]

The best example for this is the RT-DAT engine, but I don't think we need a system as complex as this.

[Kazan]

once every couple of ticks

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if (framerate < lower_limit) { detail_skew -= 0.1;}
if (framerate > upper_limit) { detail_skew += 0.1; }



and detail_skew is obviously how we control the detail


for example:
LOD_BOUNDRY = TABLE_LOD_DISTANCE * (1/detail_skew)

[vyper]

I like, I like...

[WMCoolmon]

It'd be best as a tick in the options screen, maybe below "Custom". You press it, and everything is disabled, and the FPS box is enabled.

[Kazan]

nah - have it an additional setting - because theorectically it should work with any setting there is

[WMCoolmon]

Right, but I'd think most of the stuff on the options screen (eg model detail and such) would be auto-adjusted by the setting, so changing the settings wouldn't do anything.

[DaBrain]

Originally posted by Kazan
once every couple of ticks

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if (framerate < lower_limit) { detail_skew -= 0.1;}
if (framerate > upper_limit) { detail_skew += 0.1; }



and detail_skew is obviously how we control the detail


for example:
LOD_BOUNDRY = TABLE_LOD_DISTANCE * (1/detail_skew) [/B]

I think that's perfect.

This way Omniscaper wouldn't even have to set all these lod ranges for "his" Deathstar, the PC would "choose" the perfect settings by itself.

You will always get the perfect quality for your system without slowdowns.

In theory....

[Kazan]

you will still have to set LOD distances - that variable just skews them based on your frame rate

[aldo_14]

What does the current model detail (IIRC) setting for graphics do?  Just tweak the 'max' lod displayed?

[Kazan]

it does the same thing - scales the distance

[SuperCoolAl]

Except of course it doesn't auto-adjust based on framerate.

Remember this could be done with more than model detail. Possibly before changing that the game could turn down/off other special effects/details.

[Col. Fishguts]

Good idea, IIRC Homeworld had something like this, and it worked pretty well.