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Offline Kosh

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CD ripping not fair use?
http://music.tinfoil.net/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1479

Not according to the RIAA. How long until the ordinary  citizen wakes up and realizes that they shouldn't buy this garbage?
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Offline Ford Prefect

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Re: CD ripping not fair use?
The RIAA is cordially invited to suck my dick.

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Offline IceFire

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Re: CD ripping not fair use?
More BS from everyones favourite RIAA.
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Offline Janos

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Re: CD ripping not fair use?
That's a losing fight if anything. People just don't give a ****.
lol wtf

 

Offline aldo_14

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Re: CD ripping not fair use?
The RIAA can't sue the world and win.

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: CD ripping not fair use?
The RIAA can't sue the world and win.

I have this funny feeling they're going to try anyways.
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Offline phreak

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Re: CD ripping not fair use?
***** all you want, thats not going to change anything.  Go burn down their offices.
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Offline Goober5000

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Re: CD ripping not fair use?
That's absurd.  Free use is not subject to the whims of the publisher's "authorization".  That's precisely why free use is recognized by copyright law in the first place.

Next they'll be saying you can't parody a song or quote it in a review without authorization.

 

Offline WMCoolmon

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Re: CD ripping not fair use?
You can't post the lyrics online, so I'd say that quoting them in a review is on pretty shaky ground right now.
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Offline Solatar

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Re: CD ripping not fair use?
A friend tells me playing an artist's riff in a shop on a guitar is technically illegal. So if he's trying out a guitar and plays Stairway to Heaven, they could arrest him. :D I haven't seen an actual source to back this up, however.

Although guitar tab sites are going down by the dozens.

 
Re: CD ripping not fair use?
IIRC, most software EULAs are technically illegal; legally, you are paying for the software, not merely a licence to use it (as the EULA would haveyou believe). So you can do what you like with it. The same applies to music CDs.

However, this part of the law seems to have escaped the notice of the courts. I can't imagine how it could've evaded the notice of the defence counsel in the court cases thus far, but it IS a well-known fact that the government can afford to buy anyone out.
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Re: CD ripping not fair use?
I don't know what to say.

I hear the distant echos of facists and dictators past reminding us that nothing destroys the soul of a man quite like money.

 

Offline Janos

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Re: CD ripping not fair use?
I don't know what to say.

I hear the distant echos of facists and dictators past reminding us that nothing destroys the soul of a man quite like money.

Idealists are even worse. But really, associations != dictators.
lol wtf

 

Offline Flipside

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Re: CD ripping not fair use?
'P.S.: The same filing also had this to say: "Similarly, creating a back-up copy of a music CD is not a non-infringing use...."'

W.T.F!?!

They can go screw themselves. What they are saying is that if you buy a CD and it gets damaged, you have no option but to pay for it again.

No prizes for guessing who's paying their wages ;)

 

Offline Martinus

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Re: CD ripping not fair use?
No prizes for guessing who's paying their wages ;)
Satan?

 

Offline ionia23

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Re: CD ripping not fair use?
*voice of dissention*

"Putting up samples of my songs on your website helps me a lot, and I appreciate it.   Posting entire albums on your website or your file network does not help my career at all." - Gary Numan, 2004.

I'm with Gary on this one.  Share, but share with some kind of courtesy for the work people put into their albums.
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Re: CD ripping not fair use?
I don't know what to say.

I hear the distant echos of facists and dictators past reminding us that nothing destroys the soul of a man quite like money.

Idealists are even worse. But really, associations != dictators.

Oh, sorry if I wasn't clear. I didn't mean to associate the RIAA with Pol Pot or anything, I was just reminded of how all those communist and facist dictators were telling everyone how capitalism screws everyone over in the end.

 

Offline Flipside

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Re: CD ripping not fair use?
This is about the simple acting of copying the disc to your computer though, nothing to do with sharing it with other people.

I agree with you that someone who fileshares copyrighted stuff is breaking the law, and to convince themselves otherwise is folly. But simply the act of putting your own album onto a IPod to listen to, or making a copy to your computer in case the original gets scratched, is not sharing, it's, for the Ipod, simply converting the album to a listenable format, and, for the backup, simply taking a sensible precaution with a delicate media-type.

 

Offline ionia23

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Re: CD ripping not fair use?
This is about the simple acting of copying the disc to your computer though, nothing to do with sharing it with other people.

You're kidding me.  This is what the RIAA is on about?  Oh for ****'s sake....what they OUGHT to be doing is renegotiating record contracts for artists who have been totally ****ed over instead of pissing about that. 

And, while they're at it, dropping Tool.  But that's just my humble opinion.  :lol:

I shouldn't be shocked.  The same level of *****ing happened when casette tapes came out.  I like convenience of carrying around most of my home CD collection in a dinky little video iPod.

This is all fluff.  No way could the RIAA enforce it.

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Offline Cyker

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Re: CD ripping not fair use?
Yeah... stuff like this is why I don't listen to much mainstream music anymore.

I am just looking for the time when you need a DRM dongle implanted in your head to listen to music so that you don't 'pirate' it by having it enter your memory...

And probably a DRM dongle attached to your vocal chords so you don't hum a copyrighted tune without paying for the permission.