[Mefustae]

Great, it just happens to be the mission I never get to. Seriously, I always manage to break the campaign one or two missions before that one. Well, point taken.

[BS403]

I'm fairly sure the two loops are independant. If you skip the loops you also won't unlock the Artemis D.H and the Ares.

I don't think I unlocked the Artemis D.H. anyways, I think I srewed up a few missions.

[muttoneer]

That's really funny. I always use the Artemis D.H. in the King's Gambit mission and the following bombing runs. I always thought it was better... Guess that shows me I can't believe everything I read. Oh well, at least black goes with everything.  :

I still find it hard to believe... I mean, it says it...

[Mars]

Use the Medusa for Kings Gambit, that way if a stray AAA shot catches you, you won't get 50% hull integrety

[Charismatic]

I honestly beleive I have never flown a Artemis D. H., in a serious mission. I may have flown it whilst messing around, but never when I flew a serious mission.

[OMFG PWNT]

terran bomber ranking (from best to worst):

boanerges
artemis dh
ursa
artemis
medusa
zeus

so use a boanerges whenever you can

[Wanderer]

Hmm... IMO Boanerges in defenceless coffin armed with pea shooter... I would rather take Medusa or Artemis

[FireCrack]

^Agreed I'd take the ursa over the boanerges any day (and I do in "Slaying Ravana")

[Fergus]

That's really funny. I always use the Artemis D.H. in the King's Gambit mission and the following bombing runs. I always thought it was better

It's amazing how much difference a change of colour will do to a ship, would the Orion be as mighty if it was painted a nice shade of beige?

[Freespace Freak]

I wonder, was it that forgot to change the stats of the D.H. to make it more maneuverable, or did the forget to change the stats of the Artemis regular to make it less maneuverable.  Karajorma?  Thoughts?

[Kie99]

terran bomber ranking (from best to worst):

boanerges
artemis dh
ursa
artemis
medusa
zeus

so use a boanerges whenever you can

How is the Ursa inferior to the Artemis DH but superior to the Artemis when the Artemis and Artemis DH are identical in everything except paint job?

I personally always take an Ursa and have my Wingmen cover me.

[karajorma]

I wonder, was it that forgot to change the stats of the D.H. to make it more maneuverable, or did the forget to change the stats of the Artemis regular to make it less maneuverable.  Karajorma?  Thoughts?

Hard to tell since I haven't looked at the tables in any detail. I suppose you could compare the manouverability of the bombers against each other and decide

[Freespace Freak]

That was exactly what I was thinking.  Hmmm, how to do this.  I guess I could make a generic fred mission with nothing in it, but just have all of the fighters and bombers on the 'list.'  I'd compile a list of all of them putting the ones that say manueverability=low (which I think the Artemis is on) on one list, and the ones that say manueverability=medium (which I think the Artemis D.H. is on) and then compare the values of these in the table.  The ones that have maneuverability=low will have a particular set of values, while the ones that have maneuverability=medium will have another.  I'll compare these with the Artemis' values and I'll be able to tell if the Artemis has medium or low manueverability. 

If it is low, then I could make a simple table edit that has the D.H. as being adjusted so that it has a medium maneuverability.  This won't affect balance since only Alpha wing has these, usually, and the D.H. isn't more powerful just more capable of surviving a dogfight.  If the Artemis has already medium maneuverability I won't do anything because nobody wants a more sluggish bomber.

[Mathwiz6]

Boanerges = suck.

They have 2 gun mounts, no turrets, same armour/manu as ursa (approx, haven't read tables)

They are even more defenseless than the ursa, the only advantage is they have big payloads.

And they never make it to their targets anyway, because they cannot kill fighters. An ursa sort of can.

[Snail]

The Boanerges is a coffin.

Artemis Maneuverability: Poor
Artemis D.H. Maneuverability: Average