[Aardwolf]

I can understand not playing them if you're doing a speed run, or if you just want to find out how it ends, but it's really a lot more fun, in my opinion, with the loops. In fact, I can't remember ever skipping them. I mean, if you skip the loops, you miss out on all that good

DIVE, DIVE, DIVE! HIT YOUR BURNERS, PILOT!

and all that good stuff.

[Backslash]

Stop laughing, copilot! 

Hmm, there's a silly idea for a campaign: getting a bonus, or maybe things happen differently or something, by NOT playing the loop. 

I do skip the tutorial loops 

[Fergus]

Clicked no..meant yes, excuse my incompetence.

[Prophet]

Last time I played I unintentionally skipped the NTF loop. I left from the debriefing after the somsuch mission. And when I continiued later, it took me directly to the missions after the loop. And I didn't even realize it, until after when I had destroyed the NTF.

"Here's the NTF campaign victory star, pilot. Well done chap."
"WTF? Wasn't I supposed to go undercover?"

[Snail]

The NTF loop, IMO, was harder than the second mission of the Shivan one... Am I just insane?

Those Herc II's really put a hole through my fighter. I always liked how you were wondering if they knew who you were, or if they were going to come and kill you. But the highlight was blowing up NTF Centaur and getting killed in the blast.

[Prophet]

That Centaur is always my first target. Every time. Doesn't matter if there are 3 hercs shooting at me, the Centaur must die.

[Snail]

First time I didn't know what ship class it was, so I thought it was somekind of new fighter, so I came in, weapons blazing, 30 meters, BOOM -- ARGH!!!

[Dark Hunter]

I agree the first loop is soooo much harder than the second. Into the Lion's Den remains my favorite mission of all, however!


*Dark Hunter wishes to know where the third Knossos goes* 

[Mefustae]

*Dark Hunter wishes to know where the third Knossos goes* 

Second time I played that mission, I actually tried to get to that damn knossoss. 4 minutes and 20 kilometres later, I got bored and got back to the mission.

[MrBig101]

I can't not play the loops.  I just love them .

[BS403]

Always play
What happens if you don't?

[Dark Hunter]

You just skip to the missions after them, without experiencing them.


Can you play the second loop if you didn't play the first?

[karajorma]

I'm fairly sure the two loops are independant. If you skip the loops you also won't unlock the Artemis D.H and the Ares.

[Snail]

Artemis D.H. is ****. Why do people like it?

I agree the first loop is soooo much harder than the second. Into the Lion's Den remains my favorite mission of all, however!


*Dark Hunter wishes to know where the third Knossos goes* 

How.

[Freespace Freak]

Artemis D.H. is ****. Why do people like it?

Cause it's black and shiny and, like, cool.  It also is slightly more manueverable, as far as I remember, than the standard Artemis.  It's like the Athena, nearly as fast and manueverable as a fighter, but loaded with enough bombs to concievable take down enemy Destroyers.

Hmmm... I never knew that playing those missions unlocked those.  For the six years I've been playing this game I have never once actually skipped those missions.

[karajorma]

It also is slightly more manueverable, as far as I remember, than the standard Artemis.

Actually it isn't. The tables for the two are identical. It looks like remembered to change the information but forgot to actually change the ship

[Mefustae]

It also is slightly more manueverable, as far as I remember, than the standard Artemis.

Actually it isn't. The tables for the two are identical. It looks like remembered to change the information but forgot to actually change the ship

What, seriously?! Then don't you think we should take it upon ourselves to go in and change it?

We can rebuild it, we have the technology!

[karajorma]

Considering that the missions were balanced for the current version of the Artemis it wouldn't be that smart a thing to do really.

[Mefustae]

But what missions? I wasn't aware any mission had the Artemis D.H. as a non-player ship, and as a player ship the capabilities beyond what weapon-classes it can mount are somewhat up in the air as to what effect, if any, there will be on the given mission.

[karajorma]

Kings Gambit comes to mind immediately.