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Offline Mav

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Real programmers write in machine code!  :eek2:
Now you got me confused... isn't that mostly the same? :confused:
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Offline Bobboau

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asm:
push eax r12

machine code:
001101010101000110110001101010101000111100

but real programmers just tap wires together until the executable just appears on the disk.
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They use magnets to manually write the code to the disk  :lol:
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Offline Topgun

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or laser pointers...

 

Offline Topgun

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Well the monkey helps me find your post. It's either you or... That... other guy. :shaking:

hey, wait a sec, what other guy?

 

Offline Topgun

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:lol: It's kind of funny thinking that I started off learning Basic from an Oric-1 Manual, and then got an Amstrad and started learning Z80 machine code without any help from school at all.

In fact the only language that almost made me give up coding was 6502 machine code. Have you ever tried writing in a language that has no registers larger than one byte? Simply working out a relative address was a nightmare :(


you mean code like 10111011111100... :wtf:

 

Offline karajorma

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hey, wait a sec, what other guy?

Blackdove.

But I think he made too much of an ass of himself and got banned anyway.
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Offline Flipside

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:lol: It's kind of funny thinking that I started off learning Basic from an Oric-1 Manual, and then got an Amstrad and started learning Z80 machine code without any help from school at all.

In fact the only language that almost made me give up coding was 6502 machine code. Have you ever tried writing in a language that has no registers larger than one byte? Simply working out a relative address was a nightmare :(


you mean code like 10111011111100... :wtf:

Noy quite, but knowledge of Binary was pretty much a must, Boolean Flags really took up 1 bit of memory then and you could only access them as whole bytes, so you learned how you rotate your bits in public ;)

Basically, it was assembly code, but the assemblers that were available back then were utter nightmares to use compared to modern ones, you had to do 'Grey Box' Testing, which, is sort of halfway between Black Box and White Box testing, it basically means 'I have a vague idea what should happen when this routine runs, but I'll find out how close it is when I run it, and fix it accordingly'.

It sort of looked like:-

LDA &FE
STA &BB00
LDA &00
STA &BB01
JSR (&BB00)
END.

That was, quite literally, the only way to call a referenced subroutine, now, a cookie for who knows what address a 6502 machine could would try to jump to?

 

Offline Turey

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That was, quite literally, the only way to call a referenced subroutine, now, a cookie for who knows what address a 6502 machine could would try to jump to?

Line 254?

My assembly's a bit rusty...
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Offline Bobboau

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I'd say 127
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