[TrashMan]

Heck, I belive my ships are the result of natural progression too

Yeah, and corvettes with BFGreens are certainly balanced.

Even the Golgotha only has 200,000 HP. I bet your cruisers have twice that.

Corvette with a BFGreen? Where?

Hold on....

*checks tables*

ICK! The Cobra has a BFGreen? The mother of all typos!
That's NOT it's intended weapon..

Nevermind, you'll see once FOW gets out. Alltough I have to state that my ships are differently balanced.
While destroyers generally have 200000 HP's, so does the player have more powerfull bombs (YAY for longer lasting capship battles!)

[TrashMan]

Yes indeed, and many such claims can be debunked immediatly once the public lays eyes on them.

You're just jeloaus coause my ships roxorz da boxorz! Besides, it's not even finished yet.
You claim to know how the GTVA will design their ship in 30 years?

[TrashMan]

Bombers are good for long-range power projection, but if you want something killed FAST, Beam cannons pwn bombs all they way.

They deliver a massive ammount of damage/sec, they can't be intercepted and are instantanius.. no real travel time to speak of.

[BlackDove]

Yes indeed, and many such claims can be debunked immediatly once the public lays eyes on them.

You're just jeloaus coause my ships roxorz da boxorz! Besides, it's not even finished yet.
You claim to know how the GTVA will design their ship in 30 years?

Of course. As does IceFire, Ace, and a few other people who were there at the right time.

[Snail]

ICK! The Cobra has a BFGreen? The mother of all typos!
That's NOT it's intended weapon..

Then he should use the BFGreen... I use it on the Cobra and no one complained

You seemed well aware of this, and even recommended to use it on stormfronter's ship. That was not a typo. That was a deliberate and inane choice on the part of its inane creator.

You're just jeloaus coause my ships roxorz da boxorz! Besides, it's not even finished yet.
You claim to know how the GTVA will design their ship in 30 years?

Your ships don't roxorz da boxorz. And he's not jealous. He's just ****ing evil.
IMO the Golgotha or maybe the Apothess, and not the monstrosity known as the GTVBS Archangel Mark II, is the logical continuation to the GTVA's legacy. But the GTVBS Archangel Mark II is kewl nonetheless.

Bombers are good for long-range power projection, but if you want something killed FAST, Beam cannons pwn bombs all they way.

They deliver a massive ammount of damage/sec, they can't be intercepted and are instantanius.. no real travel time to speak of.

w00t triple post! Now I know the secret to your 8k+ postage!

[BlackDove]

To be fair though, in order to really appreciate the Golgotha, you need to see her in mission, as she REALLY functions.

She's been pimped for some good eight to ten years now as the capship of doom, but I believe once you all play BWO (on judgment day), you will see how it functions in a logical reality, and it'll make more sense than it does currently.

[TrashMan]

You seemed well aware of this, and even recommended to use it on stormfronter's ship. That was not a typo. That was a deliberate and inane choice on the part of its inane creator.

Another typo. Like I said, wait till you play the campaign. Only those loadouts are FOW canon and accurate. I release ships as I finish making them and test if they work wihout bugs - I leave the balancing for later (anyone can edit tables in 5 minutes anyway)

IMO the Golgotha or maybe the Apothess, and not the monstrosity known as the GTVBS Archangel Mark II, is the logical continuation to the GTVA's legacy. But the GTVBS Archangel Mark II is kewl nonetheless.

Everything in that sentance is strictly a matter of oppinion. The legacy, the kewlness.
That's aid the Archy ISN'T the real logical legacy to the GTVA ship design (at least not look-wise)

w00t triple post! Now I know the secret to your 8k+ postage!

I wasn't even aware I was replying 3 times to the same topic! LOL! That's what happens when you got 10 windows opened and just click quote, type a reply and submit

[Koth]

To be fair though, in order to really appreciate the Golgotha, you need to see her in mission, as she REALLY functions.

She's been pimped for some good eight to ten years now as the capship of doom, but I believe once you all play BWO (on judgment day), you will see how it functions in a logical reality, and it'll make more sense than it does currently.

From what I have heard three Golgothas can take out a Sathanas in under forty second which must mean that it's single meson cannon is about as powerful as the complete frontal beam array of a Sathanas. Now that's an impressive ship.

[AlphaOne]

WEll oki sure il buy that so....where do i get mi hands on BWO ??

[NGTM-1R]

First of all, let me state this: I am not saying that they should scrap all remaining Orions, but they should be replaced as soon as possible with newer designs, be it a Hecate or otherwise.

New-construction Orions. Which would also allow going back and incorporating newer technology at a more fundemental level for better performance.

I personally have difficulty believing the GTVA will persist with new construction of the Hecate, which was proved tactically bankrupt more than once by the Shivans, and unless the Terrans start building Hapshepsuts (which would be its own kind of mistake, IMO), then there's really only one ship to which you can turn, as designing a new destroyer class from the ground up probably takes at least five years, and the GTVA won't leave all its destroyer slipways idle that long.

[AlphaOne]

Why do you think building Hatties is a mistake i mean The fisheadz destroyer is actualy very good and balaced with gooed firepower . Hell theyre a lot better then the Hecate and almost as good as the Orion so what seems to be the problem?

[MT]

First of all, let me state this: I am not saying that they should scrap all remaining Orions, but they should be replaced as soon as possible with newer designs, be it a Hecate or otherwise.

New-construction Orions. Which would also allow going back and incorporating newer technology at a more fundemental level for better performance.

I personally have difficulty believing the GTVA will persist with new construction of the Hecate, which was proved tactically bankrupt more than once by the Shivans, and unless the Terrans start building Hapshepsuts (which would be its own kind of mistake, IMO), then there's really only one ship to which you can turn, as designing a new destroyer class from the ground up probably takes at least five years, and the GTVA won't leave all its destroyer slipways idle that long.

A Orion MK2 is fine, though I think the only thing it will share with its predecessor is probably only its general shape. I think it would be nice if it drop one of its slash beams and beef up its AAA capabilities.

I find the Hecate seemingly nerfed by to give the Orion more screen time. As I recall in the actual FS2 campaign, the only time a Hecate appeared ingame is the Phoenicia as Sathanas fodder.

[NGTM-1R]

The Aquataine got its rear kicked by a Moloch, twice, but that was nebular so you may not have seen it very much.

[TrashMan]

To be fair, the Aquitaine got jumped in the nebula and was crippled by other forces. While the Orion would pulverize that Moloch and the cruiser in an instant, it would have a far harder time surviving all those bombers..a very hard time.

[Gamma_Draconis]

That is true, the Hecate is probably much better armed than what is represented ingame. Even the tech description describes the Hecate as being pretty well armed. Only problem is, FS3 will never come out so we won't be able to see what Volition had in mind for the Hecates.