[DeepSpace9er]

tower 7 is interesting, id like to know how it collapsed. is it possible that the shock from 1&2 going down crippled its main supports? i bet if all the buildings had a shared subterranian parking complex, the collapse of towers 1 and 2 would have produced a pressure wave through the confined space of the subterranean complex, and since its not unusual for major support columbs to go through parking areas, there would have essentially been hit with a 2 wave blast force, along with flying debris could have weakened those supports. if the subterranean complex was not connected however then im at a loss as to what would have caused tower 7's collapse. possibly seismic turbulence?

That would be a good theory except that 7 was at least a block away from 1&2 and not directly either. There are also a half dozen other skyscrapers surrounding the WTC site that are still to this day standing and now occupied.

[Mongoose]

tower 7 is interesting, id like to know how it collapsed. is it possible that the shock from 1&2 going down crippled its main supports? i bet if all the buildings had a shared subterranian parking complex, the collapse of towers 1 and 2 would have produced a pressure wave through the confined space of the subterranean complex, and since its not unusual for major support columbs to go through parking areas, there would have essentially been hit with a 2 wave blast force, along with flying debris could have weakened those supports. if the subterranean complex was not connected however then im at a loss as to what would have caused tower 7's collapse. possibly seismic turbulence?

Reading is fun.

[Nuke]

no its not, reading usually causes my theories to be false

[Mongoose]

Fun for us, then.

[Kosh]

tower 7 is interesting, id like to know how it collapsed. is it possible that the shock from 1&2 going down crippled its main supports? i bet if all the buildings had a shared subterranian parking complex, the collapse of towers 1 and 2 would have produced a pressure wave through the confined space of the subterranean complex, and since its not unusual for major support columbs to go through parking areas, there would have essentially been hit with a 2 wave blast force, along with flying debris could have weakened those supports. if the subterranean complex was not connected however then im at a loss as to what would have caused tower 7's collapse. possibly seismic turbulence?

That would be a good theory except that 7 was at least a block away from 1&2 and not directly either. There are also a half dozen other skyscrapers surrounding the WTC site that are still to this day standing and now occupied.

Never blame on conspiracy theories what can simply be explained by extreme incompetence and negligence.

[S-99]

tower 7 is interesting, id like to know how it collapsed. is it possible that the shock from 1&2 going down crippled its main supports? i bet if all the buildings had a shared subterranian parking complex, the collapse of towers 1 and 2 would have produced a pressure wave through the confined space of the subterranean complex, and since its not unusual for major support columbs to go through parking areas, there would have essentially been hit with a 2 wave blast force, along with flying debris could have weakened those supports. if the subterranean complex was not connected however then im at a loss as to what would have caused tower 7's collapse. possibly seismic turbulence?

Pretty much nailed it on the head there. When the two towers went down. It really made some of the nearby buildings unstable as well and fell too.

[BengalTiger]

That is the south and west face of WTC 7, the ones never shown on conspiracy supporting websites (guess why). next theory please.

[S-99]

Sometimes people believe stuff to the point of where they know their wrong, but they continue to delude themselves because the nontruth is so much more delectable.

[Ford Prefect]

The idea that the government staged the attacks is entirely unnecessary to support the theory of the manufactured casus belli. Our government simply had full knowledge that the attacks were going to take place, and willfully allowed them to happen. It's a lot easier to believe from a practical standpoint, since it's a scenario in which the government essentially outsources its dirty work, but it still more than adequately fits the pattern of theatrical incidents designed to drum up popular support for war.

[BengalTiger]

Or they knew about the risk but ignored it (CIA:'Islamic freaks could hijack planes and do kamikaze strikes',
CONgress: 'good joke').

[MP-Ryan]

Conspiracy theories as a phenomenon are a carefully constructed series of facts presented in a very specific context in order to artificially create links which otherwise do not exist.

In general, they're a great deal of fun but pretty much all of them are so filled with holes merely by the inroduction of a single intentionally neglected fact that they usually collapse under any sort of critical analysis.

The single world government plus microchips nonsense is being propagated by a few prominent loons right now... my question, as always, is twofold:
1.  How the hell can anyone seriously believe a government with its myriad of departments, agencies, and commitees which all work against each other with semi-religious fervour is capable of masterminding a single, cohesive grand plan, and
2.  WHY?

Mostly the question no one can even begin to answer adequately is number two.  If we accept conspiracy theories as a realistic interpretation of events and human ambition we also must conclude we are dealing with an extremely intelligent group of individuals.  So why would any such group, fully aware of human history, even bother?

Again, additional facts = holes.

Anyone with a firing set of critical thinking neurons in their skull can pretty quickl;y conclude its paranoid nonsense.

[Wobble73]

*Snip*

The single world government plus microchips nonsense is being propagated by a few prominent loons right now... my question, as always, is twofold:
1.  How the hell can anyone seriously believe a government with its myriad of departments, agencies, and commitees which all work against each other with semi-religious fervour is capable of masterminding a single, cohesive grand plan, and
2.  WHY?

Mostly the question no one can even begin to answer adequately is number two.  If we accept conspiracy theories as a realistic interpretation of events and human ambition we also must conclude we are dealing with an extremely intelligent group of individuals.  So why would any such group, fully aware of human history, even bother?

Again, additional facts = holes.

Anyone with a firing set of critical thinking neurons in their skull can pretty quickl;y conclude its paranoid nonsense.

Actually number two is easy, to control the masses, to keep power from those that would take it.

[MP-Ryan]

Actually number two is easy, to control the masses, to keep power from those that would take it.

Why bother?  Why expend all that money, time, and stress to even consider it?  Where's the motivation?

That's what I'm referring to as the why.

[Kosh]

Or they knew about the risk but ignored it (CIA:'Islamic freaks could hijack planes and do kamikaze strikes',
Bu$h: 'good joke').

f1x0r3d

[karajorma]

[BengalTiger]

http://www.debunking911.com/meeting.htm <- how it really looked like.

[karajorma]

I've really never understood 9/11 conspiracy theorists. People who think that the moon landing were faked are fooling themselves but when it comes down to it you have a bunch of people saying something that sounds scientific on one side and a bunch of actual scientists debunking them on the other. So I can understand why someone might delude themselves into believing the landings never happened.

9/11 conspiracies on the other hand are nothing short of idiocy. Even if you can buy the bull**** science there are other problems that simply don't make sense. What happened to the people on those flights? Why use a missile on the pentagon? There's just too much that defies common sense and doesn't require any specialist knowledge to look suspicious.