[BengalTiger]

I see Mika's point here, and he's right. People are afraid they'll kill someone if they have a "dangerous object" in their hands. It means some of us don't even trust ourselves, let alone other people. And giving the untrusted "others" the right to have a weapon is totally beyond mind capacity.

Maybe a few of us here need some more time away from the Internet, and in real life, preferably under serious stress, and with the need to make decisions while influenced by it.

[Mars]

If I had my way, no one would have a weapon...

This was a decision brought about by serious stress in real life.

But that's obviously not possible, not practical, not even really moral. It's me trying to control the world to make me feel better.

Everyone has a real life, I don't think accusing people of otherwise is a suitable way to debate this.

As a matter of fact, can we please just keep weapons rights out of this thread? Go post it in the school shooting thread.

Thank you.

As far as the the age comparison I think it's true. If these were teenagers it would be blamed on computer games.

For some reason it seems like many adults have issues with the idea that teenagers can be raised wrong, gone wrong, or just born wrong.

I think that video games may play a part, but it would be as a part of a violent culture in general.

[S-99]

If this happened in the US, we'd already have pundits/senators/reps/right-wingers blaming this on video game violence.

Everyone knows that video game learned violence only affects youth and not 40 year olds. What a total "duh" moment

If this was demon possession, then the demon spawn son of satan was breed from a group of random animals like a bear, raccoon, squirrel, etc. After of which being born the demon spawn needed a host and looked for a dark warm spot to enter into a human to take it over. Too bad there was no mountain lion cubs whose mother died that knew how to perform abortions to prevent this

[Ransom]

If this was demon possession, then the demon spawn son of satan was breed from a group of random animals like a bear, raccoon, squirrel, etc. After of which being born the demon spawn needed a host and looked for a dark warm spot to enter into a human to take it over. Too bad there was no mountain lion cubs whose mother died that knew how to perform abortions to prevent this

what

[Snail]

If this was demon possession, then the demon spawn son of satan was breed from a group of random animals like a bear, raccoon, squirrel, etc. After of which being born the demon spawn needed a host and looked for a dark warm spot to enter into a human to take it over. Too bad there was no mountain lion cubs whose mother died that knew how to perform abortions to prevent this

what

I repeat, what?

[S-99]

No one understood the joke It's a southpark thing.

[colecampbell666]

I got it right away. Satanic Christmas animals FTW.

[S-99]

I got it right away. Satanic Christmas animals FTW.

You would have won a free night of drinking at the local bar with me had you been anywhere around where i am

what

I repeat, what?

I gave away way too many clues to let people know what i was even on about too

[BengalTiger]

If I had my way, no one would have a weapon...

This was a decision brought about by serious stress in real life.

But that's obviously not possible, not practical, not even really moral. It's me trying to control the world to make me feel better.

Everyone has a real life, I don't think accusing people of otherwise is a suitable way to debate this.

As a matter of fact, can we please just keep weapons rights out of this thread? Go post it in the school shooting thread.

Thank you.

As far as the the age comparison I think it's true. If these were teenagers it would be blamed on computer games.

For some reason it seems like many adults have issues with the idea that teenagers can be raised wrong, gone wrong, or just born wrong.

I think that video games may play a part, but it would be as a part of a violent culture in general.

Since that was the last serious post here, I'll quote it and respond to it.

Feel free to write about the stressfull situation (with as little detail as you want of course), it might be close to the topic of this thread.

I'll also stick to blade weapons and possible motives here, posting similar ideas in 2 threads is overkill.

As for the computer games generating violence- people have been robbed and murdered since way before video games. The reason why the guy cut someone's head off is in his mind, not in movies, books or games.
Without his disorders he wouldn't do it, no matter if games inspire violent thoughts or not.
However, I agree with everyone blaming games and not his mental disorders if he was in his 20's and happened to have GTA 4 somewhere in his room.

[S-99]

I agree with you too. Which makes me wonder about another thing that you posted about. People have been robbing, stealing, and killing way before video games came about. Hell people have even been going schizophrenic and crap before video games as well.

The one thing that made me curious is how come people didn't go crazy about comic books, fantasy books, lotr, etc. back in the day. Tv shows fit the category too. They're all immersive, some are great, and many are bad. How come someone isn't getting in the media from really good book learned violence, or really good tv show learned violence or something?

If people keep blaming video games for stuff, why not blame some other stuff. Idk if a situation like some dudes going out and killing random people, get arrested, get lawyers, and appear in court. Where the suspects may plead not guilty for reason of dungeons and dragons inspired hack and slash.

[NGTM-1R]

The one thing that made me curious is how come people didn't go crazy about comic books, fantasy books, lotr, etc. back in the day. Tv shows fit the category too. They're all immersive, some are great, and many are bad. How come someone isn't getting in the media from really good book learned violence, or really good tv show learned violence or something?

They have.

TV show complaints started in the '50s and made a comeback in the '90s before people discovered videogames. (Hell, they're still whining about TV. I don't think they've ever stopped.)

In the late '80s and early '90s it was D&D and the accompanying Satanic Panic. (Gary Gygax died for your sins!)

In the '30s and again in the '50s it was comic books.

Around 1890 it was the paperback book.

[Mefustae]

Around 1890 it was the paperback book.

It bends... just like your daughter's morals will!

[NGTM-1R]

It bends... just like your daughter's morals will!

The really sad thing?

I swear my US History textbook sidebar on the subject included a phrase very much like that.

[colecampbell666]

The reason that video games have more attention in that respect is because people can actually kill the baby, as opposed to just watching it happen. I don't agree with this, it's been disproved in many instances. (VTech)

Another reason is mass-media. These theories/quacks can get out there and be heard much easier because of the many forms of long-distance communication and media, and because of the net. A good example of this is the "There are more crazy pedos now!" argument. There were pedos back in the 50s, and little kids getting into cars and never being seen again, but there was no mass-media to hype it.