[Kosh]

Alright then, why don't they hate Russia and China?

They did hate Russia at one point, but the Soviet Union is gone and with it went a great deal of Russian influence/prestige in the world, until recently. China has had almost no influence/prestige until the past few years, not really enough time to make mortal enemies (any more than they already have). The West is a big target to vent anger at because it is still the most influencial/prestigious group of nations in the world.

[karajorma]

So you're claiming that hatred of Russia had nothing to do with the invasion of Afghanistan and was simply cause they were jealous?

I'm sorry but I find it incredibly hard to believe that anyone believes that a multi millionaire like Osama Bin Laden used to be would leave his life in Saudi Arabia so he could live in a cave organising terrorist attacks against other country just because of jealousy.

They hate the West because the West keep sticking their nose (rightly or wrongly) into what they perceive as their business. If the West didn't do that they'd be happily terrorising their own countries instead.

[Kosh]

So you're claiming that hatred of Russia had nothing to do with the invasion of Afghanistan and was simply cause they were jealous?

No, but why didn't they keep pushing Russia after the Soviet Union fell apart?

I'm sorry but I find it incredibly hard to believe that anyone believes that a multi millionaire like Osama Bin Laden used to be would leave his life in Saudi Arabia so he could live in a cave organising terrorist attacks against other country just because of jealousy.

On the other hand why would a kid from suburbia run with the Taliban? Of course there is more to it than just jealousy, but that certainly is a factor.

[karajorma]

So you're claiming that hatred of Russia had nothing to do with the invasion of Afghanistan and was simply cause they were jealous?

No, but why didn't they keep pushing Russia after the Soviet Union fell apart?

You're expecting rational behaviour from terrorists? You won't get it. Once you hate someone you don't stop just because they stop doing what made you hate them in the first place. That said, one of the major reasons was cause of Chechnya. I wouldn't claim it was the cause so much as a justification for the hatred they already felt. Much the same as US policy on Israel/Palestine is.

On the other hand why would a kid from suburbia run with the Taliban? Of course there is more to it than just jealousy, but that certainly is a factor.

Okay, how is that an example of jealousy? He was jealous of his own freedom? He was jealous of how his county had too much power and decided that it shouldn't?

To me that's an example of a convert taking on the prejudices of the people who converted them. In which case the reason for the hatred stems from the reason why the person converting him had those prejudices.

[NGTM-1R]

Alright then, why don't they hate Russia and China?

They do hate China, matter of fact. The problem is that China's rather lethal and comprehensive law enforcement and their generally somewhat amateurish methods and tactics make it impossible for them to operate there. They need one of two things, an open society, or a society where their behavior would not be viewed as strange. Thus, they can operate in the Mid-East or the open West fairly well.

[Kosh]

Okay, how is that an example of jealousy? He was jealous of his own freedom? He was jealous of how his county had too much power and decided that it shouldn't?

No, my point was that sometimes money isn't enough for some people.

The point I was trying to make is why hasn't there been a 9/11 in China or Russia? They aren't such big targets. Declaring jihad against communists (or former communists) doesn't have the same appeal as it used to.