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Offline Kosh

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He might not get it right but he does at least understand we have to work together on this.

Yes, but when America says work together, it means we'll carry most of the load, just be there to help us up a hill.

When we get told to work together by another county, it means "Stick it to the stupid yankees!  Long and Hard!"

Obama asked for some additional aid in Afghanistan, he was politely told to stuff it.  Political repair indeed.


So political repair means doing whatever we tell them to do? That isn't cooperation. The fact is Bush did such tremendous amounts of damage to America's image it will be very difficult, and many years before anyone trusts us again.

"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline Liberator

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The whole trouble with bailout this, bailout that, is that it doesn't really work.  Yeah the banks need short term capital to stay solvent, but they need to be audited to a one because you don't get leveraged 47x your cash reserves over night.  Actual businesses that make things are in worse shape, the Big 3 American auto makers are going down the tubes because of two factors, due to government intervention, they can't make cars people want to buy, unlike the foreign auto makers like Toyota.  You don't make money if you don't sell what people want to buy and, in the rare case where there is a car/truck that people like, they can't sell competitively because they have a ridiculous amt of overhead thanks to the UAW.  I read something one time that suggested that 40% of the cost of a Ford F-150 pickup truck goes to pay the union.

There's something wrong with your business model when your line workers are making $85 an hour and striking if you don't give them a raise, meanwhile, unaffiliated factories in the southern states make a comparable model of truck that costs less.  They aren't unionized.  They're employee's make a fair wage and live comfortably for the most part.  Something like $35 or $40 an hour.

Bear in mind that while some specialized training is needed, line work is hardly what could be considered "skilled" labor.  Not like, say, an electrician or an architect or something.

Lastly, I'm wailing on the UAW to be sure, but they're not the only one's to blame, the executives at The Big 3 signed the stupid contracts.  Contracts that created a work pool, where unneeded line workers go and sit in a room making full wage, waiting for a new posting to become available.  BTW, they are fully allowed to decline the offer and continue to wait in the pool.
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Offline Kosh

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The whole trouble with bailout this, bailout that, is that it doesn't really work.


It didn't, then again Bush started it. :p

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There's something wrong with your business model when your line workers are making $85 an hour and striking if you don't give them a raise, meanwhile, unaffiliated factories in the southern states make a comparable model of truck that costs less.  They aren't unionized.  They're employee's make a fair wage and live comfortably for the most part.  Something like $35 or $40 an hour.

The unions are part of the problem, but then again GM making cars that are poorly designed and bad quality also had a lot to do with it. GM got what it deserved for a number of reasons, especially management.

It's also worth considering that the southern states are often some of the poorest in the nation, so the living standards are much lower. Low living standards = low wages.


The biggest reason for Toyata's success has been good quality for a reasonable price and good company management.

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Yeah the banks need short term capital to stay solvent, but they need to be audited to a one because you don't get leveraged 47x your cash reserves over night.

Yeah, like AIG is leveraged 120x or something like that, plus they have the dubious distinction of posting the worst quarterly loss in corporate history, $60 billion. Based on that, I calculated that in one minute they lose about $450,000+.
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline Goober5000

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I'm tempted to lock this now that the other "I just wanna say" thread was locked... :sigh:

 

Offline Inquisitor

I was about to make a similar comment, Goob :)
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Offline Liberator

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but....but....but....we're having fun yelling about current events.
So as through a glass, and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names, but always me.

There are only 10 types of people in the world , those that understand binary and those that don't.

 

Offline Inquisitor

I just wanted to say the world was going to be alright :)
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Offline Rhymes

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You have, now please can someone lock this thread?
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