[MP-Ryan]

This makes me extremely grateful that I live on an entirely different landmass than the nations proposing that resolution.

[karajorma]

lets hope the un  goes down the list and give us (non-religous ppl) the protection against religions insulting us then it will be balanced

Well for one thing it will shut up a lot of the people who claim atheism is a religion. Cause they tend to say defamatory things more often.

[IronBeer]

It's times like this when I'm glad I live in the US, where everybody (on paper) has the same nominal right to freely criticize, among  other things, religion. I know things don't always work like that in practice, but at least there are people who try to make the system work towards freedom. (****, that's an off-the-cuff argument/ comment, isn't it). All I'm gonna say is, giving special treatment to a particular religion is counter-productive towards... wait, what is the UN trying to accomplish with this proposal? (Serious question, by the way- what would this accomplish??)
I didn't get through the whole thing, but I agree with the Canadian rep- "people have rights, not religion".

[BloodEagle]

Why does this remind me of The League of Nations, all of the sudden? 

[Flipside]

Amazing idea, let's ban criticism of governments next, and then maybe criticism of Police, or criticism of torture or brainwashing, next thing you know, speaking out against the norm will be totally illegal and the world will be a happy place, because you'll get locked up if you don't support everything you are told to.

Political Correctness has a very great deal to answer for....

[Liberator]

...what is the UN trying to accomplish with this proposal?

They are throwing the proposing nations a bone, as a way of trying to not get more terrorists into they're countries.

[karajorma]

Political Correctness has a very great deal to answer for....

This isn't anything to do with political correctness. It's just that nations who don't care about political correctness dressed it up in those terms in the hope that the countries who do might fall for it.

[peterv]

They are throwing the proposing nations a bone, as a way of trying to not get more terrorists into they're countries.

If that's the case, then we're talking about massive stupidity. Or they're on drugs (the UN i mean).

[Liberator]

Well, this is the UN we're talking about.  Despite what anyone else says, they're unspoken goal seems to be to protect they're own ass, while also weakening the US and ignoring/placating the Middle East.

[peterv]

Or they're trying to provoke a culture war, asuming that their asses are protected.
I seriously can't find anything better than a conspiracy theory here.

[Grizzly]

Actually, I am not worried about Islamic people at all;

Theogh Van Gogh would have something to say about that. Plus often when someone publicaly criticizes Islam they do get lots of death threats.

When you publicly criticize ANY major group you get death threats these days. It's not limited to islam-critisants alone.

[Snail]

This makes me extremely grateful that I live on an entirely different landmass than the nations proposing that resolution.

I like islands.



After reading the actual article () I kind of think that it really depends what you classify as defamation of a religion... Surely defacing sacred statues and stuff is defamation of religion, but opposition to things done in the name of religion, is that defamation of religion or what?


After writing that, I then thought about stoning women to death. Then I thought, "Yeah, actually this entire thing is bull****."


Edit again; not that I'm defaming the Koran or anything by the above comment. What I meant was that this law of banning criticism is kinda bull****. Incidentally, does criticism count as defamation?

[IronBeer]

Edit again; not that I'm defaming the Koran or anything by the above comment. What I meant was that this law of banning criticism is kinda bull****. Incidentally, does criticism count as defamation?

It could be argued as such. And if that resolution passes, then the answer would probably be "yes".

[Liberator]

Incidentally, does criticism count as defamation?

No, it makes the criticized angry, perhaps to violence, but defamation no.  Defamation is rather a lot stronger term.

[Herra Tohtori]

What happens when the religion defines criticism as defamation (or doesn't make difference between them)?

[Polpolion]

Does anyone have a link to the UN resolution that this was about, or at least know which one it is?

[IronBeer]

Does anyone have a link to the UN resolution that this was about, or at least know which one it is?

In the first post.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

For the militant Islamics, see it this way; if your country is being attacked, wouldn't you fight back?

Too bad that these "militants" were militant long before. They view the west as enemies because the west stands in their way to create a 7th century barbaric state, not because there are westerners in the Middle East. We could withdraw from the region entirely, build a wall round all muslims countries and send all muslims in the west back to that region and those militants would still be there, doing their barbaric stuff.
No, what these fundamentalists want is to turn the whole world into a muslim hellhole, just like their quran tells them to, first by bringing the muslim regions under their control and then by exterminating every nation and worldview that isn't the same as theirs.

[Davin]

This makes me extremely grateful that I live on an entirely different landmass than the nations proposing that resolution.

Come now, have you heard of Canada's human rights commissions? Anyone who actually gets accused of anything (and gets past the "discovery" or whatever it's called phase) is found guilty. And these are used to subdue any religious or other issues. It just never gets any news attention, as all our news companies seem to have their eyes out east or down south.