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Re: Army Officer Opens Fire at Fort Hood -- kills 12
also ironic:
"I hope this doesn't cause all the people in the red states to go on racist killing sprees"
implying generalization about red states being filled with nothing but people who live by generalizations.
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Re: Army Officer Opens Fire at Fort Hood -- kills 12
There aren't really any such thing as 'red states' or 'blue states' anyway - it tends towards various shades of bruise purple.

If Nuclear1 can demonstrate statistically that there were significantly more anti-Muslim hate crimes per capita in Texas than in other states, then he may have a point.

You're certainly right, though, that there are nuts everywhere.

 

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Re: Army Officer Opens Fire at Fort Hood -- kills 12
It's interesting that the news services are only reporting concerns by Muslims in California, Illinois, Maryland and Washington D.C. about a backlash.

Of course maybe I should be concerned about a backlash against engineers since the guy in Florida was an engineer and I do live in Illinois.  Then again he didn't yell PEs are great as he shot people.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2009, 10:28:31 am by Macfie »
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Maryland? We're like bluest of blue here?

 

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Re: Army Officer Opens Fire at Fort Hood -- kills 12
Yes but Maryland makes sense because he used to live there.  Texas would make sense because that's where it occured.  But Texas wasn't mentioned.
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Re: Army Officer Opens Fire at Fort Hood -- kills 12
I just want to point out this event to all those who claim that allowing guns to be carried on campus would have averted the Virginia Tech massacre.
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Re: Army Officer Opens Fire at Fort Hood -- kills 12
I just want to point out this event to all those who claim that allowing guns to be carried on campus would have averted the Virginia Tech massacre.

I'd just like to point out the stupidity of that statement considering that no armed personnel were there until the MPs/civilian police responded.
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Re: Army Officer Opens Fire at Fort Hood -- kills 12
Seriously.  Personnel on domestic bases (and all non-warzone bases, I'd imagine) don't generally carry firearms in the first place.  As sad as it may seem, fewer soldiers probably would have died had this taken place on a base within Iraq.

 

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But they could. If guns were allowed on college campuses, how many kids would actually be wandering around armed? Tch.
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Re: Army Officer Opens Fire at Fort Hood -- kills 12
But they could. If guns were allowed on college campuses, how many kids would actually be wandering around armed? Tch.

No, they can't. The military doesn't let you carry around an assault rifle for any old reason because they worry about this sort of thing.
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Wasn't he using two pistols or something like that?
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Re: Army Officer Opens Fire at Fort Hood -- kills 12
Unless you absolutely require it for your job or you're doing training on it, a weapon is always locked up in the armory on base.
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No, they can't. The military doesn't let you carry around an assault rifle for any old reason because they worry about this sort of thing.

They also worry about weapons, um, falling off the back of trucks at the same time a few hundred dollars falls into the NCO's wallet. Or something.
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That too.
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Re: Army Officer Opens Fire at Fort Hood -- kills 12
Wasn't he using two pistols or something like that?
Two handguns yes.  They were civilian guns apparently... not military issue.
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Re: Army Officer Opens Fire at Fort Hood -- kills 12
At least we can count on the accurate news coverage from the news services.  AP reported that a single gun was used.  A 5.7 cal. automatic pistol.  Its a wonder he was able to kill any one since that would be a .057" bullet.  He probably used pencil lead to reload.

WTF you on? The P90 and Five Seven use 5.7x28mm ammo. Both of these weapons are VERY deadly.
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Re: Army Officer Opens Fire at Fort Hood -- kills 12
At least we can count on the accurate news coverage from the news services.  AP reported that a single gun was used.  A 5.7 cal. automatic pistol.  Its a wonder he was able to kill any one since that would be a .057" bullet.  He probably used pencil lead to reload.

WTF you on? The P90 and Five Seven use 5.7x28mm ammo. Both of these weapons are VERY deadly.

The news report did not say 5.7 mm which is about 22.5 calibre, it said 5.7 calibre which would be about 1.44mm.  1.44mm is about the diameter of drafting pencil lead.  I was pointing out the inaccuracy of the news report.  Obviously you did not read closely.
You are right about the 5.7x28mm.  He was probably using a Five-SeveN.
« Last Edit: November 09, 2009, 07:36:32 am by Macfie »
Normal people believe that if it isn't broke, don't fix it. Engineers believe that if it isn't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet.
The difference between Mechanical Engineers and Civil Engineers is:
Mechanical Engineers build weapons.  Civil Engineers build targets
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Re: Army Officer Opens Fire at Fort Hood -- kills 12
At least we can count on the accurate news coverage from the news services.  AP reported that a single gun was used.  A 5.7 cal. automatic pistol.  Its a wonder he was able to kill any one since that would be a .057" bullet.  He probably used pencil lead to reload.

WTF you on? The P90 and Five Seven use 5.7x28mm ammo. Both of these weapons are VERY deadly.

Haha, dude. Caliber =! mm. It's as absurd as saying the P90 uses 5.7 inch ammo.

 

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He's awake too, by the way

  

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Re: Army Officer Opens Fire at Fort Hood -- kills 12
Somebody apparently leaked his last fitness report while he was serving at Walter Reed, within the military anyways. Marine LT who came in today had seen it, said the man had screwed up badly and was career-dead. It was either deployment or Bad Conduct Discharge.
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