[Flipside]

Music with a strong, repetitive beat also screws with your head, the high levels of adreniline involved with watching a sports contest certainly screws with your head, look at the behaviour of victorious fans after a football match, they are high on adrenaline. Your body produces it's very own 'recreational drugs' inside you every minute of every day, Dopamine, Adrenaline, Testosterone etc, and they all impair faculties to a certain degree.

I'm Tea-Total, I don't touch alcohol, never much enjoyed the stuff anyway, because I never enjoyed the feeling of being drunk, you lose balance, you can't think properly and, worst of all, you are convinced you are far less drunk than you really are. Not all recreational drugs are for everyone, but just because I personally don't like Alcohol doesn't mean that I think nobody else should be allowed to either.

[S-99]

You'll excuse me if I take my doctor's word over the fking internet.  

Honestly I knew this was coming.  I'm not sure why I bothered now.

What, you expected to pussy out. No, i just think your doctor heard your question incorrectly or your doctor was wrong about the whole nerve fiber residue thing from weed.

[Flipside]

He was. I can assure you. If information like that was factual, then it would have been all over the Medical Journals and not just on the 'fking Internet', the British Medical Journal covers cannabis studies quite closely because there is a lot of debate of the Government handling of it, and comparisons with the 'Prohibition' that took place in America, where the criminalisation not only increases criminal activity, but actually encourages people to try it.

I did say before that my information doesn't come only from the Internet, obviously someone didn't read that part, but, to my knowledge, there has never been a study that proves permanent damage from 'normal' cannabis, and only tenuous links as a catalyst from stronger breeds, certainly there is less chance of permanent mental illness from smoking Cannabis than there is of getting lung cancer from living downwind from a toxin-producing factory.

It's like the old-wives tale that Alcohol destroys brain cells which never grow back, it's a fallacy, brain cells DO grow back throughout your life, and alcohol doesn't make the death-rate of them any faster, it's a massive over-simplification of fact, but it's a nice, portable, bite-size generalisation, so people stick to it.

Edit: For those who are interested:

http://www.news.com.au/study-finds-alcohol-doesnt-kill-off-brain-cells/story-e6frfkp9-1111113923217
http://www.articlesbase.com/anti-aging-articles/growing-new-brain-cells-and-wiring-them-up-656707.html

[iamzack]

i wonder if anyone ever refers to marijuana as an "illegal drug" without intending to be ironic.

for the record, this post was actually Turambar, and therefor this thread is his fsult and no mine.

[el_magnifico]

i wonder if anyone ever refers to marijuana as an "illegal drug" without intending to be ironic.

for the record, this post was actually Turambar, and therefor this thread is his fsult and no mine.

How convenient!

[Flipside]

Meh, makes a change from Politics and Religion

[Titan]

I'd say this, though mostly about medicine, is mostly over the legalisation of cannabis. 

I love how this someone generated from someone saying 'TGIF'.

[Flipside]

Well, not the legalisation of it exactly, that's a far more complex subject, but people aren't going to realise that it's complex until they stop thinking that defining the effects of it is a simplistic thing to do.

Personally, I'm more in favour of regulation than legalisation, i.e. similar to Holland, where a shop may only sell a certain amount to a customer, from what I recall, the actual punishment for growing it illegally in Holland or possession of an amount above the legal limit is higher than the UK, that's the trade-off that was made.

As for the TGIF comment, to be honest, I wouldn't have got involved if people hadn't started making generalisations

[SpardaSon21]

I need more beer.  Two is not enough for a Saturday, especially if one of them is a weak Heinken.  I'll probably have a third beer with dinner, probably a Smithwick's.

[Turambar]

It's totally true, i posted as iamzack.  Pot criminalization is dumb.  Plant's less harmful than tobacco (much less than cigarettes, considering all the **** they put in those) and you can apply the same penalties to doing stupid **** high that you can to doing stupid **** drunk (like driving). 

[karajorma]

You'll excuse me if I take my doctor's word over the fking internet.

Except you're not. You're taking your shaky recollection of what he said over hard evidence from medical journals.

[ssmit132]

Plant's less harmful than tobacco (much less than cigarettes, considering all the **** they put in those)

This is why I completely do not understand why cigarettes are legal.

[karajorma]

Especially given the amount of people getting screwed over by passive smoking.


The simple fact is that cigarettes are legal because no one knew they were harmful when they first started being used. If they'd only just been invented everyone would be "**** no! We're not allowing that **** to be legal!"

[iamzack]

america loves her traditions.

[SpardaSon21]

Well, not enough apparently as I believe marijuana was legal up until sometime in the early-mid twentieth century.

[BloodEagle]

All current illegal drugs used to be legal, pre-FDA, IIRC.

[SpardaSon21]

Well, marijuana is especially grievous since there was all sorts of government propaganda about "reefer madness" and the like, which was blatantly false and we're still affected by it to this day.

(FYI, I happen to be somewhat libertarian in my views on drugs and think they should be legalized and regulated much as alcohol and cigarettes are today.  All of those "drugs lead to this and that" statements can be just as applicable to alcohol when it is abused.)