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Offline S-99

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Re: Google Drive is launched
The fact that they hold onto the data of yours that they were using after you stop using the service means that they kept it. License to use in this case i would say is ownership without using the word ownership.

Malicious intentions? Most likely not in this case. I however don't discount it. I don't expect companies to follow all terms of TOS's behind doors if they find ways to get away with it so they don't get sued. Google on the other hand. I don't think they have grave plans for anything.

For the TOS that they have for google drive? How much stuff do they want for free. At least it's a trade off. I  just don't like what the cost is for ad support.
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Offline Polpolion

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Malicious intentions? Most likely not in this case.

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I  just don't like what the cost is for ad support.

exactly what is the cost?

 

Offline S-99

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I already outlined what the cost of using the service is. The cost is the data of yours that you'll be granting to use (and keep when you're gone from the service).
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Offline Polpolion

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yet you've already stated

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Malicious intentions? Most likely not in this case.

unless you actually think google employees are spending their coffee breaks illicitly (and illegally) copying your personal data to their home computers (why the **** they would want to be doing that I have no idea), I really don't get how you think google's access to your data is in any way bad.

Even if we assume that 1) Google did employ spies to snoop your data to steal (for whatever reason) and 2) you did find a need to upload sensitive information to google drive (assume you have a good reason for sending it to a third party rather than storing it yourself), what's stopping you from encrypting it? I'm not going to bother encrypting my grocery lists or my lecture notes, but whatever I did want to encrypt, I doubt google would want to bother spending the resources to crack. And if they did we'd all be ****ed, google drive or not.

no really, in case you think I'm trying to make straw men I'm still having a hard time understanding the point you're trying to make.

 

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The point is that the cost of using this service is what i consider too high for what the TOS requires. I don't agree with it. They're requiring access and use of user personal data whenever they want (aside from the fact that it's just for ads). And, when you get rid of your google drive account, they keep what of yours they used.

It's not exactly good form to go up to people and say, "hey, can i have access to and use, and even keep some of your stuff for x purpose". When it's someone who doesn't know you personally asking you this, it's offensive and insulting; i find it an unethical practice. It always serves to make the person asking look bad. I think it's not a bright idea to trust a person who asks that question.

It's the fact that google went beyond asking and made it a requirement for one of their services. Who cares what they use the data for. It's blatantly obvious that they want to mine user data. I think google could have come up with something different for users of the service to contribute back to it aside from asking to pony up money or what the TOS currently says.

As far as google goes for abusing the power behind what they use the data stored on google drive for. That probably won't happen. My point with that is that it's not exactly unheard of for big business and companies to do things behind closed doors and abuse of policy, or not even following policy. Google is a lot smarter and friendlier in general.

There's encrypt and upload like i mentioned earlier in my first post in this thread of course. But, as far as that goes. Why would anyone want to use a third party service for storage? The best things i can think of is convenience, need, and immediacy of need. No one would need to encrypt everything. Most likely what would be encrypted is stuff that no one would want anybody else seeing (or certain others with the password...meant for designated eyes). But, i don't see google trying to crack encrypted files.

I hope this helps?
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Offline Scotty

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You know who else keeps your personal information after you've given it to them, yet does absolutely nothing with it except, you know, keep it, even after youv'e stopped using the service?

Physical storage companies.

This is absolutely nothing new to the world.  The only new part is that it's digital instead of physical.

That said, I like it.

 

Offline S-99

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Yes, but in this case we are told that they will be using it after you stopped using the service.
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Offline Scotty

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Right.  In this case they actually have the decency to tell us.  That's horrible.

 

Offline S-99

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That's about the only decent thing of the TOS.
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Offline Polpolion

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Fun fact: Even if you decide to stop posting on HLP your posts will remain here and people can continue to read them long afterwards.

  

Offline MP-Ryan

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Re: Google Drive is launched
There's encrypt and upload like i mentioned earlier in my first post in this thread of course. But, as far as that goes. Why would anyone want to use a third party service for storage? The best things i can think of is convenience, need, and immediacy of need. No one would need to encrypt everything. Most likely what would be encrypted is stuff that no one would want anybody else seeing (or certain others with the password...meant for designated eyes). But, i don't see google trying to crack encrypted files.

Convenience.

Immediacy.

Need.

Encrypted volumes.

Yup, that about covers why and how I'm using it.
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