[NGTM-1R]

Yeah but before Kennedy, no one put much stock in conspiracies. Kennedy was one of the first big, believable ones.

The Freemasons stuff was probably more widely believed than the Kennedy assassination has ever been. Like, people get voted out of office and lynched on it.

[Phantom Hoover]

To say nothing of the various Jewish conspiracy theories.

[MP-Ryan]

The hilarious thing about conspiracy theories in general is conspiracy theorists:  if you can honestly believe that an organization as vast, mismanaged, and generally systemically incompetent as a federal government can successful maintain the operational security necessary to pull off even a moderate sized conspiracy - to say nothing of 9/11, chemtrails, Sandy Hook, etc etc and all the other bull**** various 'truthers' throw around - then I have some ocean front property for sale in Alberta for a steal of a deal.  Just send me the cheque in advance.

PRISM, etc don't count.  For one, that's not a conspiracy, its an operational program within the NSA subject to oversight - and it was blown open by a private contractor, of all things, just proving my above point.

Conspiracy theory is just the latest manifestation of a very old aspect of human psychology - the need to believe that there are things greater than our daily lives, and that these things are non-random and rationally operating.  Basically, it's the notion that some people believe existence is supposed to be ordered and make sense, which makes them readily accepting of anything that organizes non-related events into connected patterns.  And it routinely makes me mock them for it.  I class people who believe in nefarious government motives for legislation (e.g. "they'll make a gun owners get licenses so they can track and then take away all the guns and then no one can rise up against the evil government") in pretty much the same category, because it's barely a trip, nevermind a short step, from that way of thinking into full-blown conspiracy lunacy.

[Nakura]

The hilarious thing about conspiracy theories in general is conspiracy theorists:  if you can honestly believe that an organization as vast, mismanaged, and generally systemically incompetent as a federal government can successful maintain the operational security necessary to pull off even a moderate sized conspiracy - to say nothing of 9/11, chemtrails, Sandy Hook, etc etc and all the other bull**** various 'truthers' throw around - then I have some ocean front property for sale in Alberta for a steal of a deal.  Just send me the cheque in advance.

PRISM, etc don't count.  For one, that's not a conspiracy, its an operational program within the NSA subject to oversight - and it was blown open by a private contractor, of all things, just proving my above point.

Conspiracy theory is just the latest manifestation of a very old aspect of human psychology - the need to believe that there are things greater than our daily lives, and that these things are non-random and rationally operating.  Basically, it's the notion that some people believe existence is supposed to be ordered and make sense, which makes them readily accepting of anything that organizes non-related events into connected patterns.  And it routinely makes me mock them for it.  I class people who believe in nefarious government motives for legislation (e.g. "they'll make a gun owners get licenses so they can track and then take away all the guns and then no one can rise up against the evil government") in pretty much the same category, because it's barely a trip, nevermind a short step, from that way of thinking into full-blown conspiracy lunacy.

That's actually an interesting look into the psychology of these people. What really strikes me as odd is when otherwise intelligent and rational thinking people believe in these kinds of things.

You can hardly class opposition to gun registry/licensing as a "conspiracy theory." All throughout history, registration has been a prelude to registration. And it can indeed happen here, since it has happened in first-world countries before, namely Australia and the United Kingdom.

It's more ridiculous to believe that these elitists don't have confiscation in mind. Especially when the people proposing the registration/licensing laws are the exact same people who just six months ago said they wanted to ban guns. Did they all suddenly have a change of heart in less than a year? Doubtful. Especially when these people live in the anti-gun echo chamber, where all they hear is this: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/21/1172661/-How-to-Ban-Guns-A-step-by-step-long-term-process

[The E]

And this is relevant to the situation in Greece how?

[BloodEagle]

And this is relevant to the situation in Greece how?

Because Greece doesn't actually exist.  It's all a conspiracy by the HUKAA (Hidden United Kingdom Australia Alliance) to enact stricter gun control laws.

[JCDNWarrior]

And this is relevant to the situation in Greece how?

As The_E says, I opened the thread with the question if any members of HLP currently live, have lived or know people who live/have lived in Greece and what they have noticed, heard, experienced.

The link I provided, on that note was to give an example of one account on what's happening so I wanted to hear from people I can more reasonably trust to give an honest opinion or description as at least in my region there's practically no information being given for a long time now through TV.

EDIT: A quick addition, I think next time I'm just going to type out the transcript of the parts that I felt should apply to the topic. Perhaps I should also use a better source next time but.. enough distractions from the topic.

[Mika]

What it comes to points of Greece in that video, I'd say BAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The only contact I have to Greece hasn't said much about problems, and when I inquiried about the riots in Athens, her reply was pretty much on the line that it happens almost every week. And she doesn't seem to be worried either.

I was in Greece in Autumn 2011, when there actually was a larger demonstration in Athens. However, this did not affect the air travel or the vacation areas at all. Haven't been there for two years, but I don't actually believe that things outlined in the link would be the Greece's biggest issue. They have other problems.

What it comes to gun registration leading to confiscation, the only relevant example of that is the era of communists rising to power - but they didn't leave it at guns, they took all your property.