[Goober5000]

Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
I like having the ring up top! Gives it a 180 degree field of view. Look at the Charibdys, it has the array on top.

That's the thing, though - the Charybdis has already done the ring on top.  Do something different!  I think those arms are just begging to hug a rotataloromabob.  Think of it this way - it's a nice compact design (everything fits neatly together), and the arms offer a great deal of protection - both by offering turret defensive capabilities and by preventing enemies from getting a good line of fire at the sensitive equipment.

And who cares if it's not entirely practacal? These are VASUDANS, they focus on aesthetics.

I think putting it in the bottom works aesthetically too.

Speaking of the ringamathing, you may want to make it a little less uniform, a little more curvy.  Currently it looks like a helicopter blade with a circle around it.

You're right, it DOES look like a Demon. I was trying to make the head look like a Typhon; should I try something else?

I think so, but I'm not sure exactly what.  Maybe cut part of the head off - or else make the head bulgier.  Or - IDEA - cut the head off entirely and put something down the front like a broad elephant trunk!

[Knight Templar]

I think it would be cool if it looked kinda like that one Vasudan Destroyer that was floating around with the Fin going up.. cept the fin would come form the hull, go out, then come back in slightly, then cross to make a T and you could have some systems or Missle launchers on the Horizontal part of the "T".

That or you could make it like a fish like we talked about. Uber Vasudan and Uber cool

[Su-tehp]

Mikhael, you're right. AWACS do need to scan in 3D. It olny occurred to me that an AWACS scan would be in two dimensions because the radar screens Air Force uses today are 2D...

I guess I'm too much like Khan in Star Trek II. I keep thinking in two dimensions when I should be thinking in three.

GE, I really like the idea of a Wild Weasel vessel, but I don't think it should be called a science cruiser. Maybe classify it as a gunboat? I don't want to say frigate, because in DatDB, I designated Aldo's warcruiser mods as frigates...

Does anyone know if real life AWACS planes are involved in Wild Weasel duties? I'd like to find out. GE, do know the answer to this question?

Also, what names of new ship classes for FS can we come up with and what size would they be? I want to start brainstorming so we can figure out how to classify this ship. Should we classify this new mod as a brand new AWACS or as something else? I don't like the idea of classifying it as a science cruiser because science cruisers are originally civilian vessels (that can be drafted into military service, true, but they're still primarily civilian) and AWACS are always military....

Yup - they watch dumbfounded as Chinese fighter planes crash into them.

Dude, Goober, that is low! I don't think they were dumbfounded, though, they were probably too busy trying to land the plane safely to be dumbfounded at the time of the colliosion.

The Chinese fighter pilot, on the other hand, he was probably extremely dumbfounded when he realized that the Chinese Communist Party was incapable of saving him from his plane crashing into the ocean...

[translated from Chinese]: Agggh! I'm so blatantly filled with testosterone, I actually thought I could ram a bigger plane than mine at 900 knots and not get a scratch on me! Well, I'm losing altitude at an alarming rate, but that's alright. The Worker's Paradise that is Mother China won't let me die. Marx won't let me die. The butchers of Tiannanman Square who are my country's leaders won't let me die. I've got nothing to worry abo--"

*sound of huge explosion and crash as Chinese MiG rams into the ocean*

[Sesquipedalian]

My one suggestion is this:  

As a science ship it would need some significant internal volume to hold the labs and research equipment.  The shape of the main hull as it stands now leaves very little space for even so much as living quarters once you have the engines and other subsytems in there.  More internal volume should be added.

[Knight Templar]

Mikhael, you're right. AWACS do need to scan in 3D. It olny occurred to me that an AWACS scan would be in two dimensions because the radar screens Air Force uses today are 2D...

AWACS plating on the wings?

GE, I really like the idea of a Wild Weasel vessel, but I don't think it should be called a science cruiser. Maybe classify it as a gunboat? I don't want to say frigate, because in DatDB, I designated Aldo's warcruiser mods as frigates...

perhaps GVEc (Galatic Vasudan E-War Cruiser) ?

Or maybe just GVEf (Frigate) .. it depends on its size really.. not a gunship. those are for well.. guns. This is more of a "special" frigate.


lol chinese fighters planes.. jeeze

[Goober5000]

Originally posted by Su-tehp
Should we classify this new mod as a brand new AWACS or as something else? I don't like the idea of classifying it as a science cruiser because science cruisers are originally civilian vessels (that can be drafted into military service, true, but they're still primarily civilian) and AWACS are always military....

The ship strickes me as an AWACS.  It's rather compact, and if GE wants it to fill multiple roles it'll probably have to come from the military.  Shame - I'd really like to see a Vasudan science cruiser.

Dude, Goober, that is low!

Sorry, that was too good of an opportunity to pass up.

[translated from Chinese]: Agggh! I'm so blatantly filled with testosterone, I actually thought I could ram a bigger plane than mine at 900 knots and not get a scratch on me! Well, I'm losing altitude at an alarming rate, but that's alright. The Worker's Paradise that is Mother China won't let me die. Marx won't let me die. The butchers of Tiannanman Square who are my country's leaders won't let me die. I've got nothing to worry abo--"

*sound of huge explosion and crash as Chinese MiG rams into the ocean*

[Rampage]

The thing looks like a Klingon Bird-of-Prey...

But nonetheless, it's still... okay.

[Star Dragon]

Yeah a Klingon with a propeller on top!

Seriously LOSE the propeller (or redesign it!) No offense...

   I'm watching part of "Tucker a man and his dream" about the car guy.  Do what you want it's your ship. If they don't like it they dont hafta use it!

   That sounds like a great idea... Making areas of the hull be deflector type scanners scattered all around to get 3d readings... just make one central point for the sensors subsytem control area (like normal) but (bitmaps?Textures? Sunobjects?) over the hull as scanners... True this may sound/look high tech, but that's what I would do.

  And definately make it an EW craft. Science is too diverse BUT think of this having an EW ship assigned with a Science cruiser? IE: Something new pops up in space, an anomoly. A science cruiser is dispatched to study it specifically and an EW ship is assigned too to assist cause it has better scanning capability and early warning systems, (jamming if needed should hostile forces come around, it could cloak itself and the nearby ship with background static)... How's that?

[Black_Dragon]

Pull the string on that one and it going to fly away.  Jeje


But if you want some serious mod ship,  take that propeller or whatever it is out of it,  but you got a good model there.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Knight Templar
ouch, i feel like i just got ***** slapped... :wink:

 


heh this isn't my mod man, i was just tryin' to make sence of it. I think you are right, one or the other.. seeing as how the Vasuds already have their AWACS, they need a science ship.. with no  rotatlimatilda. Why is that on the Faustus anyways? Solar Power?    You could make a new Electronic Waring ship, just need a betta design.. perhaps i should try

y'know, the Vasudans can use the Gas miner (Anuket) for scientific purposes;

"The GVG Anuket was originally designed for resource extraction in the volatile environment of gas giants. More recently, the Anuket has been modified for nebular operations. The Anuket has the most sophisticated sensor array available, enabling it to navigate the intense EM maelstroms of supernova remnants. In the nebula, the Anuket plays two important roles. st, the miner collects samples for scientific analysis and serves as a laboratory for field experiments Second, the Anuket gathers deuterium-rich gas for use in the fusion drives that power the allied fleet."

Ok, it's not perfect.  but it may be useful in case anyone is looking for a Vas science ship urgently......

[Knight Templar]

meh.. i guess i always thought of it as a gas miner

[Su-tehp]

Yeah, I remeber the stuff about the Anuket labs from the tech database, but I always thought that research was just for studying nebular gas.

But, still, now that I think about it, the Anuket could be used as a Vasudan science ship in a pinch...

[Raptor]

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But, still, now that I think about it, the Anuket could be used as a Vasudan science ship in a pinch...
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Too True, I have a version of the Anuket acting as a vasudan hunter-killer cruiser, with a very powerful beam cannon mounted in the claw.  only flaw is that the claw no longer rotates:(

It is meant as the vasudan answer to the sathanas..........