[Crazy_Ivan80]

Originally posted by mikhael
Stick and throttle--and peddles if you have them. Its the One True Way.
 

Not if you're left handed. Which I am. Which means it's a ***** to find a decent joystick. (Luckely I found one 4 years ago. And I recently bought another one of those -last one- in case my current one breaks down)

[Styxx]

Meh, I'd need a decent joystick in the first place...

[Nico]

Originally posted by Crazy_Ivan80


Not if you're left handed. Which I am. Which means it's a ***** to find a decent joystick. (Luckely I found one 4 years ago. And I recently bought another one of those -last one- in case my current one breaks down)

such a lame excuse
I'm right handed and had to use the mouse with the left hand for various reasons, got ued to it, now I can hardly use the mouse with the right hand. If you try, you can, especially that it's not like it's any difficult to do.

[karajorma]

Besides there are joysticks like the Saitek cyborg that can be used by right or left handed people.

[Stealth]

Originally posted by mikhael
So do the thrustmaster sticks, but they're really just eight way hats.  Who needs a mouse? I just map it as a hat and have fun.

i never figured out what to use the "hat" stick for... in FS1 and FS2... ther'esnot really anything you need

[Stealth]

Originally posted by venom2506
( don't listen to stealth, I playe descent 1 and 2 ith the keyboard only and descent3 with the mouse+keyboard combo, there's no comparison, coz in quake or UT you can allow yourself not to aim that great, but in descent if you don't aim right, you're dead  

*shrugs*  i dunno... i guess i've always been better with the keyboard than a joystick, cause i grew up with a keyboard and no joystick, so i'm used to it :0

[mikhael]

Originally posted by Stealth

i never figured out what to use the "hat" stick for... in FS1 and FS2... ther'esnot really anything you need

Yeah, ususally I run out of controls in a game before I run out of controls on the stick.

Freespace has some truly wonderful targetting and wingman command options that few people know about though. I once had a hat triple mapped for Freespace comms and my my target-friend and target-foe hats double mapped. I found I didn't use too terribly many, but they were there if I needed them. Target Target's Target, Target Target's Attacker, and Target Escort were particularly useful in escort missions--especially when you set up a key that was, essentially, "Target Escorted Ship, Target Targets Attacker".  You could extend that theme to "Target Escorted, Alpha Wing Defend My Target, Target Target's Attacker" and so on.

One of the guys on the INA-IWar2  forums rebound his keys so that Trigger2 (second trigger position) set his weapons to max power, then fired as long as he held the trigger, then set the power back to normal when he released the trigger. That's suicide in my opinion, but it worked for him. I always set Trigger1 to "fire burst" and trigger2 to "auto fire".

Venom: I said I'd give them the chance and I will. That's what demos are for. The problem, though, is that when moving from keyboard only to keyboard/mouse for First Person games you're going from a poor control setup to a good control setup. Freelancer, with mouse, will be going from a good setup (stick/throttle) and moving to a poor setup (mouse).

Stealth: The whole lefthanded vs righthanded stick design thing is stupid at best. Nintendo screwed the righties of the world by bucking the Atari tradition of "stick on right, buttons on left" when they put out the Famicom/NES controller. Every console that has followed since, and many arcade games, have followed that trend. We righties don't have a problem with that. Further, in real vehicles, they don't make special accomodation for lefties or righties. As I recall most aircraft have the stick centered, but the throttle is still to one side (usually wherever its convenient).

[Nico]

Originally posted by Stealth



i never figured out what to use the "hat" stick for... in FS1 and FS2... ther'esnot really anything you need

targetting, that's what I use it for
btw, about descent I was talking mouse, not joystick

[Redfang]

I play with keyboard/mouse. Every game. Though one reason for that is that I don't have any game pads/joysticks/wheels or anything. Though I don't need one either, I play stuff like RPG's, strategys, shooters and what not. Not sims, except FS2. I play it with keyboard only, as mouse is too slow even with sensitivitity as highest (though that might change with my new computer (and mouse) coming in ~week), and joystick would be good. But I'm not going to buy a joystick for just one game, even if it's a perfect game like FS2.
 

Originally posted by CP5670


Actually, I still use this configuration today for FPS games, and it works great. (it's harder to aim but much easier to move/dodge )

Eh? You play keyboard only? Keyboarder?
 
It's not harder to aim, it's ultra hard to aim, and it doesn't certainly help moving/dodging, just makes it harder, as you need more fingers near each other.