[Nico]

what does SotU mean anyway?

[CP5670]

state of the union I think.

[Mad Bomber]

I don't think we should go straight to bombing Iraq. I think we should offer to set up a palace for Saddam in Switzerland or something, and let him and his cronies + family live there. He'd keep his insane riches and the Iraqis would be free of Saddam's evilness.

This is, of course, assuming Saddam doesn't do an insanely stupid thing like pissing the US off a second time. And if he refuses, THEN we bomb his ass to Jupiter.



As for Bush's domestic agenda, WHY DID WE ELECT THIS CHUMP!?? Oh, right. We didn't.

Anyways, I don't believe in trickle-down economics. It's a nice theory, in an ideal world, but in the end, the rich are going to inevitably get greedy, and less will trickle down than is needed. Or it'll trickle down to Mexicans who work for $4 an hour.

I find it hard to believe that, with 90% or so of Americans only two paychecks away from financial disaster (yes this is true), so many people still believe in the much-touted trickle-down theory.

And then there's Bush's tax cut plans. Once again it relies on the idealized but ineffective trickle-down theory. "Lets give money to the rich so they can pay their employees more!" Yeah, right. More like, "Let's give money to the rich so they can all buy new Hummers!"

Besides, the state taxes have to go UP to make up for the lowering of federal taxes anyway, so THE AVERAGE TAXPAYER WILL SEE NO CHANGE AT ALL.

And then of course the national debt will skyrocket due to lack of federal revenue.

I don't think I could stand four more years of Bush and his uber-conservative cronies. I'd be surprised if anyone below $60,000 a year could.

[pyro-manic]

Yup.

...

Errr...

*tries to think of really powerful, totally complete and accurate argument about the nature of everything that will totally blow everyone away with it's sheer profundity*

Bugger!


*fails miserably at thinking of argument, starts wondering if anyone has actually read the book I talked about in post 2 of this thread*

Aaahh...

Has anyone actually read the book I talked about in post 2 of this thread? (It's "Stupid White Men, and Other Sorry Excuses for the State of the Nation", by Michael Moore, for those of you too goddamn lazy to look back that far:D )

'S about the ****ed-up-ness of Western politics (particularly American, though he does cover Britain and Europe as well), and rips the piss out of everyone and anyone invloved in the system. Great stuff.

[Solatar]

I always thought Bush said nuclear like that because he's from Texas, and has a Texan accent, well sorta.

[SKYNET-011]

Originally posted by Mad Bomber
THEN we bomb his ass to Jupiter.

I see how you got your title.

[Warlock]

As far as the tax thing :

Two different groups of ppl man. Federal Gov lowers, State raises, but each state has it's own seperate body deciding all that. Hell not every state even has the same taxes. Va, we got property taxes out the ass. Yup own a car and pay like $300 a year just because you own the damned thing. Then again theres **** loads of highway repairs and new interstate routes going up.


Bout the ppl being two checks from $ hell :

Heh that's 98% the credit companies. Not three weeks after I was out of High School I would get at LEAST 3 credit cards in the mail. Not applications for them, full cards ready to go. Most of the problem is they don't teach kids how to really handle cash. While I was in the Army half the younger guys and gals seriously looked at finaces like "Well ... I'm out of cash...but I've got plastic and checks!" It's easy as hell to get into debt,...tough has hell to get back out.

And Hummers ? heh if they want those P.O.S.'s they can have em


Ok I'm done

*Slips back out of the room quickly*

[Zeronet]

Originally posted by SKYNET-011


I see how you got your title.

Yeah, his forum name is Mad Bomber

[vyper]

Originally posted by pyro-manic


Has anyone actually read the book I talked about in post 2 of this thread? (It's "Stupid White Men, and Other Sorry Excuses for the State of the Nation", by Michael Moore, for those of you too goddamn lazy to look back that far:D )

'S about the ****ed-up-ness of Western politics (particularly American, though he does cover Britain and Europe as well), and rips the piss out of everyone and anyone invloved in the system. Great stuff.

So a comic version of John Pilger?

[Solatar]

Originally posted by Warlock
As far as the tax thing :

Two different groups of ppl man. Federal Gov lowers, State raises, but each state has it's own seperate body deciding all that. Hell not every state even has the same taxes. Va, we got property taxes out the ass. Yup own a car and pay like $300 a year just because you own the damned thing. Then again theres **** loads of highway repairs and new interstate routes going up.

Yeah, but Virginia only has 4% sales tax. TN has 9.5% sales tax, but no income tax. Everybody here in TN (Bristol) drives five minutes to VA to buy groceries, because so much money is saved. I hate the taxes, but my parents say that they are okay because there is no state income tax. Like I care about state income tax, I'm 13 for crying out loud, I don't care about income tax.

rant over.

[phreak]

Originally posted by Mad Bomber
I don't think we should go straight to bombing Iraq. I think we should offer to set up a palace for Saddam in Switzerland or something, and let him and his cronies + family live there. He'd keep his insane riches and the Iraqis would be free of Saddam's evilness.

we could do this and then bomb it

[Stryke 9]

Technically, he's already been offered exile. Which is stupid, because he'd have to be dumber than plankton to accept. He'd be dead within a year or two anyway, only instead of going out with a bang he'd jsut be some retired complete asshole who'd passed on his chance to stand up to the US.

[Deepblue]

This is the most hilarious thread I have ever read.
Definitions...

Politics-
The art of taking responsibility for good things that happen, and denying responsiblity for bad things.

Representative Democracy-
You elect whoever has the best face to go and say things.

Personally I am conservative but I would rather not discuss politics because of the absulute pointlessness of trying to convince other people that you are right and they are wrong (even if they are).

On the other hand the things he does to his people are pretty sick and twisted.

[phreak]

Picture a club-like bar in Washington DC; dark, quiet, richly appointed.

G. W. Bush & Colin Powell are at the bar, talking in hushed tones.

The bar owner comes into the room and recognizes them.

The owner comes up to the two world leaders and gently interrupts the
conversation, saying how pleased and proud he is to have them in his
establishment. He then asks, "Without being too presumptuous, may I ask the
topic of your conversation?"

G.W.: "Not at all, we are discussing the solution to the Iraqi situation."

Owner: "That's great, what have you decided?"

Colin: "It looks like we are going to have to kill 40 million Iraqis and
one large-breasted blonde."

The owner mulls this answer over for a moment, and then asks, "Why do you
have to kill the blonde?"

G.W., poking Powell in the ribs: "See, I told you no one would give a damn
about those 40 million Iraqis!"

[Nico]

lol, that is quite funny actually...

[Kamikaze]

Originally posted by Warlock

Bout the ppl being two checks from $ hell :

Heh that's 98% the credit companies. Not three weeks after I was out of High School I would get at LEAST 3 credit cards in the mail. Not applications for them, full cards ready to go. Most of the problem is they don't teach kids how to really handle cash. While I was in the Army half the younger guys and gals seriously looked at finaces like "Well ... I'm out of cash...but I've got plastic and checks!" It's easy as hell to get into debt,...tough has hell to get back out.
 

Yeah, funny how schools refrain from teaching you important things like survival (cooking and GOOD DIET!), economy and finance . Rather they spend time failing miserably to teach you history, language, science and math. Some of it is hideously biased as well.

Another travesty: the "education" system

(@PhReAk's post)