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Offline Sandwich

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on: March 04, 2004, 05:01:24 pm
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/397485.html

Mega-cool. I'll try to get pics if I ride one. :)
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Reply #1 on: March 04, 2004, 05:03:26 pm
The idea sounds good... but surely anyone dedicated enough to strap a bomb to themselves would be willing to make it a large enough bomb to take the bus out from some range?
 

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Reply #2 on: March 04, 2004, 05:35:23 pm
Well, no, not really... the bombs cause damage mainly from metal shrapnel - nails and bolts and stuff - that the guy's packing around the explosives. Such items can't puncture armored vehicles, since armor needs a focused blast to  penetrate it.
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #3 on: March 04, 2004, 05:51:11 pm
Good point :nod:
 

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Reply #4 on: March 04, 2004, 05:58:58 pm
What about a car bomb?
 

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Reply #5 on: March 04, 2004, 06:25:00 pm
it sounds like your chalengeing them to take one out
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Reply #6 on: March 04, 2004, 06:43:26 pm
One abbreviation comes to mind: RPG.
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Reply #7 on: March 04, 2004, 07:03:08 pm
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it sounds like your chalengeing them to take one out


Nah, just to make the thing impregnable.

 There's always a danger of overconfidence, y'see. :)
 

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Reply #8 on: March 04, 2004, 07:32:18 pm
I think its a good idea. It saves lives.

However, a dedicated individual will come up with ways around it. And I think its a safe bet that most people who are willing to be suicide bombers are what could be described as dedicated.
 

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Reply #9 on: March 04, 2004, 07:44:24 pm
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I think its a good idea. It saves lives.

However, a dedicated individual will come up with ways around it. And I think its a safe bet that most people who are willing to be suicide bombers are what could be described as dedicated.


Well, naturally.  But every steps to improve safety is positive, as long as you keep pushing for the next step. :)
 

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Reply #10 on: March 04, 2004, 07:53:42 pm
Power to the people. :yes:
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Reply #11 on: March 04, 2004, 10:19:54 pm
Hmmm... interesting idea. Sounds kinda cool actually. Pics?
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Reply #12 on: March 04, 2004, 10:51:31 pm
Rock on, IMI
 

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Reply #13 on: March 04, 2004, 11:26:52 pm
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One abbreviation comes to mind: RPG.


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Reply #14 on: March 05, 2004, 01:35:31 am
Yeah, get shots. You and your V1. :p
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Reply #15 on: March 05, 2004, 02:01:00 am
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What about a car bomb?


Car bombs are much harder to get through the security checkpoints. But even if they do, I'm not really sure if they'd be able to take out an armored vehicle. RPG's can easily, sure, yeah - that's what they're meant for. But a car bomb is just a glorified suicide bomber, and works on the same principle of shrapnel ripping up soft targets. It nothing in the way of focused blast force.

The sheer power of the explosion might knock the bus around, toss it a few meters and flip it over or something, but IMO the bus would still remain "whole", more or less.

That, of course, goes for the current line of armored buses used here as well.
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Reply #16 on: March 05, 2004, 03:17:35 am
Cool buses.
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