[Liberator]

Kaz, your hatred of MS and Nvidia stems from their market status, they are on top of the heap.  You don't like them simply for that reason.  Their products are not of the quality you would like, so you whine and *****.  Nobody, not even you is perfect Kazan, GET USED TO IT.

BTW:


You are cynical, therefore you are a cynic.

[Kazan]

nVidia is not on the top of the heap FYI

and my gripe with microsoft is because they're ABUSING their position

You even contradict yourself in your post "Your problem with them is they're on top!" [Immature] then you say "Your problem with them is their products are of insufficient quality" [mature]

The correct one is the second one - I dislike them because their products are inferior in terms of quality.  Stating that their products are of inferior quality and citing them for bad behavior is not "whining and *****ing" either.   Nor do I expect them to be perfect, nor think I am.


Grow up before posting again

[Bobboau]

Kaz used to be an intell whore, he would rant and rave about AMDs imperfict x86 emmulation, now he loves AMD, he isn't a fanboy, if Nvidia manage to make a card better than ATI I'm sure he'll admit and proclaim it.

[Kazan]

thank you bobboau

i think you could even find on this forum if you search back far enough me dissing AMD because at the time they sucked - they cleaned up their chips outdid intel and I switched camps

[Grey Wolf]

That, and Intel stopped caring about performance, instead caring about public relations. "Look, we have higher numbers than them! That makes us better!"
No other reason for the extremely long pipeline of Prescott, and the horrible IPC.

But anyway, any other opinions on the cards, as opposed to flaming the opposing party's judgement? Realistically, even if it is massively overclocked and using drivers with cheats built in, it still means that they finally managed to at least partially fix their shader problems (namely, that using PS2.0, the NV30/35 generation performed rather horribly).

[ChronoReverse]

Interestingly enough, the R420 won't have PS3.0.  Apparently, ATi decided to put that into their next product (despite the fact that PS3.0 and PS2.0 are close enough that if you're able to run PS2.0 fast, PS3.0 should be fast too).

It's too bad since PS3.0 is supposed to be easier to optimize for.  That and it's in Directx 9.0c (when that comes out) so that it's not going to be forever before you see it (i.e. Directx Next).

Strangely enough, ATi has the technology since the R500 (Xbox2's chip) has it.

[Grey Wolf]

Apparently, the original R400 has PS3.0, but it had scaling problems. Loki (R420) is really a temp chip until the R500 is fully ready for the market.