[mr.WHO]

Hey, does it mean that ancients ships will be in R2 but not in campaign?? It would be wonderful.

[Woolie Wool]

Originally posted by Woomeister
Actually I only killed 1 of them, some of the Ancient stuff still is in there, you just need ships and weapons to enable them. Ancient species support is still in there, though it needs to be tidied up a bit.

I also still have the R1.5 Ancient fleet.

What did you kill? The scavengers want carrion.

[Woomeister]

Originally posted by mr.WHO
Hey, does it mean that ancients ships will be in R2 but not in campaign?? It would be wonderful.

No like I said the species support is there, but the ships are not. I have other plans for the remaining Ancient ships...

[Woolie Wool]

I use them for purposes like making sure things that should be invulnerable (background scenery, TBP jumpgates, etc.) are invulnerable, testing and balancing weapons, etc.

[Woomeister]

Originally posted by High Max
I never used cheats period. Besides, it might be hard to enable them and I like a game with some challenge.

I use the cheats to check for bugs in the weapons, I found a very critical bug using them that I couldn't figure out.

I don't use cheats for cheating purposes.

[mr.WHO]

Originally posted by Woomeister


No like I said the species support is there, but the ships are not. I have other plans for the remaining Ancient ships...

I don't understand

species support (not)= species ships ??

Can you say something about "the other plans" ??

[Woomeister]

Species support means their sounds, icons and species defs entries are still in there, but no weapons or ships are included.

As for the other plans, maybe soon I'll say something. I'm working on it right now actually

[Woomeister]

Originally posted by High Max
If u do include the ancients, you should put them in the tech database the same way that the terrans, Vasudans, and Shivans are (so we can see what the Ancients look like). I wonder, what do they look like?

Also, if you are working on other stuff, that might make it take a lot longer to release R2.

Then we would have to make a model of one.

We're waiting on a completed mission doc from Sadistic Sid, plus my main duties now are overseeing the mods and making the new cbanis and stuff. So I have time to sidetrack and do other stuff untill there's something else to do.

[Woolie Wool]

Originally posted by Woomeister


Then we would have to make a model of one.

You could just draw one if you're good at that kind of thing. I always imagined them as being sort of like teal-colored Vasudan-like creatures with tentacles.

[StratComm]

Originally posted by Woolie Wool
teal-colored Vasudan-like creatures with tentacles.

Now why on earth would the ancients have tentacles?  I always pictured them as the Greys, actually.

[Woomeister]

Yeah the Aquatic theory I heard about 3-4 years ago. Can't remember were though.

[aldo_14]

The maps on the Knossos, IIRC, have a sort of aquatic look, or at least an aquatic colouring.  I guess from that you get sea->squid->tentacles.

[Janos]

Cthulu

[Mav]

Originally posted by High Max
Ancient heavy bombers are faster than Shivan ones? That just isn't right. The Shivans are much older than the Ancients so the Shivans should not have only faster ships than the Ancients but they should have heavier hulls as well. Funny thing is that Ancients seem superior to Shivans because they are faster and heavier than Shivans ships. The Shivans are so old that they should be faster and heavier than Ancients and on top of that, they should also keep the shields while having all the speed and heavy armor plating.

Yeah, right. But it'd be REALLY hard to make sense out of it; you see: the Shivans had spaceships, shields and even planetkillers - 8000 years ago ! So what are they supposed to have now???
And as they're a collective, it's no option to say they've been thrown back by a civil war or the like.

[and I hope I didn't bump another old thread...]

[Woomeister]

The Ancients are faster and hard for GTVA fighters to take down unless they use weapons like the Hastor or Aquinas. The old Subach or Prometheus just won't cut it against them.

Ancient capships are on average stronger than their Shivan counterpart, but have poorer defenses. But reasonable offense.

Shivan craft will usually win a battle with an Ancient one. Unless it has a disadvantage for some reason.

The Shivans do have far superior ships and weapons, they just seem to hold back on their use.