[Martinus]

Originally posted by WMCoolmon


No, that's pretty accurate. I would use Linux if I could do the same things on it that I could do on Windows, as well as or better than I could do them on Windows.

Unfortunately, while there may be six different players that do musepack, three probably won't even compile, one will crash constantly, one will malfunction if you use the wrong audio system, and the last won't crash but can only play half the file formats of one of the ones that's crashing.

Everyone in the Linux community is so intent on flexibility and customization that there there are very few programs that are intelligently designed, easy to use/install, and do what you'd expect (without crashing). Not to mention that this insistence on 1980s-style file structure is a pain in the ass; sure, all your programs can be run from "bin", but all the help documents are buried somewhere in /etc, and the libraries are in some subdir of /lib. Uninstall not working? Good luck finding all the files for that particular program.

[color=66ff00]Check out the portage system in Gentoo dude, it's excellent for installing and uninstalling software.

The only problem I've had with it is that it doesn't have the complete library of linux based apps in the database and in those cases I've had to do manual compiles. Still windows does have its uses, it's just that I'd rather upgrade my OS because I want to not because I'm forced to.
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[Scuddie]

Yeah, check out Portage for Gentoo...  If you can get the ****ing thing installed in less than 10 attempts.  Maeg, I dont know why you keep recommending Gentoo to those who aren't the hardest of core linux fans.

Anyway, back to the subject at hand, Ubuntu is probably the best entry-mid level distro there is right now.  Period.

[Dark RevenantX]

Another political thread...

Got milk?

[WMCoolmon]

I tried Gentoo, and got it installed, although only after discovering that the people who maintained the install manual were too ****ing lazy to note ALL the flags that were required.

As a result, I spent awhile building myself a minimalist set of USE flags, then doubled that number due to dependencies over the course of a number of hours.

Eventually, I ran out of hard drive space before I could even finish installing the apps that I wanted. (I just had thunderbird, kaffeine, abiword, firefox, and fluxbox installed) Once I moved the old (stable) kernel source to my home dir and still didn't have enough space, I reinstalled Yoper. (Then I discovered that my 6600GT didn't work properly with sax, nor would it work after several attempts to upgrade, including installing the new version of Yoper, which I discovered had removed nearly all the features I'd found useful with it and seemed half as reliable.)

I've finally moved to Ubuntu, but my soundcard is only half-supported by ALSA and doesn't sound near as good as it does on Windows. The X server is apparently running in software mode, and no one on the forums has been able to figure out how to fix it, making everything half as responsive as Windows. I find the coding environment rather cumbersome to work with; debugging is done mostly via command line and the reference is 20 pages or so long. And none of the games I play will run on linux, because there is no 64-bit Cedega yet. Setting up a 32-bit chroot nullifies the entire point of using 64-bit linux.

I could probably spend several hours and puzzle out some of those problems, but quite frankly I don't have the inclination to do that when I might as well keep using Windows programs. Especially since due to the GUI situation, they'll run faster no matter what I do.

[Ace]

Originally posted by Dark RevenantX
Another political thread...

Got milk?

Nope, but I do have GOPiganda

[Martinus]

Originally posted by Scuddie
Yeah, check out Portage for Gentoo...  If you can get the ****ing thing installed in less than 10 attempts.  Maeg, I dont know why you keep recommending Gentoo to those who aren't the hardest of core linux fans.

Anyway, back to the subject at hand, Ubuntu is probably the best entry-mid level distro there is right now.  Period.

[color=66ff00]I practically started off with Gentoo, learned a lot more than I did with Fedora.

I have heard that Ubuntu is an excellent starter distro but I've got little time lately to mess with it.

Gentoo just works for me and it's pretty easy to make it do what you need.
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[General Freak]

Er...I thought that the point of that CNN article was censorship = security? I think that they should be allowed to publish it...if not, they'll find another country, and there's always the Internet. Now don't tell me the Feds control the Internet. (irc not counted, mwahah).