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Offline CP5670

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*confused*

They could have just back-tracked from Vasuda and went the normal way (through Antares and Beta Aquilae); would have taken the same number of jumps...

 

Offline Su-tehp

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Originally posted by joek:
Sirius-Delta Serpentis node!?!? Was the FS1 nodemap that different from the FS2 one?

Yeah, it really WAS that different. In fact, the entire dynamics of subspace jumps changed between FS1 and FS2. In FS1, during the briefing cutscene with Admiral Wolf(?) describing the mission to capture the SC Taranis, a Cain-class cruiser in the Ikeya system, he talks about how "we don't know where the cruiser will jump to, but there is only one node leading out of Ikeya and we're going to blockade it." At the same time, we see the screen highlight the jump path from Ikeya to Ribos (just as it is in the FS2 official map). But if Ikeya only has one node, wouldn't it just lead to Ribos regardless? Why say that "we don't know where the cruiser will jump to" if there is only one path to take?

This suggests that jump nodes DIDN'T have only one path like they do in FS2. If I'm correct, this briefng sentence implies that (in FS1, at least) a jump node could concievably lead to SEVERAL different nodes rather than just a "tunnel" leading to one node only! Yes, we see the Ikeya-Ribos path on the screen in the cutscene, but the officer's words seem to contradict what is being shown.

I've noticed LOTS of inconsistencies like this between FS1 and FS2. My advice: ignore what is in FS1. The stuff in FS2 is ALOT easier to correlate and extrapolate from. My FRED Zone people can vouch for this; they've seen me extrapolate from FS2 lots of times.  

Which reminds me, I came up with a list of fleet and battle group designations and their home bases. (3rd Terran Fleet based in Capella, 13th Vasudan Battle Group based in Deneb, and so forth, but for ALL groups.) Anyone want to see this list?  

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Offline adwight

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Ya I'd like to see the list.  

In 'Clash of the Titans' Alpha 2 or 3(Can't remember) says something like, "There's no sign of the Lucifer, we'll have to proceed to Delta Serpentis."
To me this means that there must have been a subspace node from Sirius to Delta Serpentis.
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Offline Setekh

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Wow, Su-tehp...

You sure can extrapolate.  
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Offline Su-tehp

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Here is the link to the FRED Zone Forum titled "Guidelines and Info Center". All the stuff here is stuff from designing missions and relevant data for FRED and FS2:
 http://pub11.ezboard.com/fjtofrm11

I tried cutting and pasting my post of the GTVA Fleet Organization notes, but it wouldn't post here on this forum after four tries; I think it might be too much data to post here. So here is the link to the GTVA Fleet Organization notes on the FRED Zone forum:
 http://pub11.ezboard.com/fjtofrm11.showMessage?topicID=23.topic

Here's a modified excerpt of the list:

1st Fleet: Based at Terra (Cut off from GTA/GTVA when SD Lucifer exploded)
2nd Fleet: Based at Delta Serpentis (the Terran capital since contact with Earth was lost)
3rd Fleet (CONFIRMED): Based at Capella
4th Fleet (CONFIRMED): Based at Vega
5th Fleet: Based at Beta Aquilae (this system is the capital of the entire GTVA)
6th Fleet (CONFIRMED): Based at Epsilon Pegasi
7th Fleet: Based at Polaris
8th Fleet: Based at Regulus
9th Fleet: Based at Sirius
10th Fleet: Based at Laramis
11th Fleet: Based at Luyten 726-BA
12th Fleet (CONFIRMED): Based at Wolf 359 (a crap assignment for Terrans)
13th Fleet: Based at Ross 128 (the REALLY Terran crap assignment)

Neo-Terran Front Fleet Organization Notes:

Neo-Terran 1st Fleet: Based at Polaris
Neo-Terran 2nd Fleet: Based at Regulus
Neo-Terran 3rd Fleet: Based at Sirius
Neo-Terran 4th Fleet: Based at Deneb
Neo-Terran 5th Fleet: Based at Alpha Centauri
Neo-Terran 6th Fleet: Based at Epsilon Pegasi

GTVA Vasudan Battle Group Organization Notes:

List of Vasudan planets:

1st Battle Group: Aldebaran (it’s the Vasudan capital since Vasuda Prime was obliterated)
2nd Battle Group: Vasuda (the REALLY @#%$ assignment for Vasudans, for obvious reasons)
3rd Battle Group: Altair

11th Battle Group: Alpha Centauri

13th Battle Group (CONFIRMED): Based at Deneb


List of Terran planets but guarded by Vasudan Battle Groups:

4th Battle Group: Ikeya
5th Battle Group: Ribos
6th Battle Group: Adhara
7th Battle Group: Antares
8th Battle Group: Beta Cygni
9th Battle Group: Betelgeuse
10th Battle Group: Procyon A
12th Battle Group: Bernard’s Star (a Vasudan @#%$ assignment because it’s so far from Vasudan territory)

For a complete look at my extrapolations, see the above links to the FRED Zone forums. Enjoy!  




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Member in good standing of 99th Skulls
Honorary member of TCS and UGC

"I created your civilization...now I will destroy it!"
--Ra, the Sun God
REPUBLICANO FACTIO DELENDA EST

Creator of the Devil and the Deep Blue campaign - Current Story Editor of the Exile campaign

"Let my people handle this, we're trained professionals. Well, we're semi-trained, quasi-professionals, at any rate." --Roy Greenhilt,
The Order of the Stick

"Let´s face it, we Freespace players may not be the most sophisticated of gaming freaks, but we do know enough to recognize a heap of steaming crap when it´s right in front of us."
--Su-tehp, while posting on the DatDB internal forum

"The meaning of life is that in the end you always get screwed."
--The Catch 42 Expression, The Lost Fleet: Beyond the Frontier: Steadfast

 

Offline Setekh

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Wow...  

You have a really good discussion forum there. How come you're using an EZBoard? Don't you have a VW forum..?
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Offline adwight

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Nice list there Su-Tehp !!!
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