[S-99]

I came back to knoppix with a curious question that i just couldn't find answered no matter how much i googled the topic. What branch of debian is knoppix based on? Idk if it's based on etch (current stable) or sid (unstable). Hell if it's based on sid that's even better (sid for the most part is the bleeding edge in latest software and is generally stable and performs fine). Anyway i just don't know, curious if someone knew.

[Mars]

The problem with Knoppix is that you can't update it easily in the event of a hard drive install... I would recommend Kanotix as it maintains Debians packaging system. I am unsure about what version Knoppix uses... but I can tell you it will be out of date quickly.

[S-99]

Yeah i got out of wanting knoppix. Kanotix looked great, but kanotix is going down the crapper right now. Morphix was the next in line and is based on debian sid, and it's modular, installable, and tools there to download the base morphix iso and other tools to make your own distribution. I don't think i'll make my own distribution...quite yet. But, the morphix premade iso's are very cool.

I'm just trying to rid myself of ubuntu for a debian base. I'd rather have debian etch (stable) or better yet debian sid. And no i don't want just straight debian that's a little above me right now, but morphix is not. And i was checking out arch linux too, but staying away from it. They made their own packaging system call pacman. My beefs with the pacman package manager is that it's meant to grab all of the dependencies for whatever you wanted to install to avoid broken packages. But, apt does this as well. Why not just use apt? My thinking is that the arch linux people are just having fun as they appear to have a great distro and they like making their own stuff. I thought arch linux was debian based, but i guess it's not really.

[Mars]

Why do you want to be bleeding edge? Are you looking for a particular package?

[S-99]

No i'm not looking for a particular package. Why not have bleeding edge when you can just plain old have it? To get bleeding edge, what you do is you install straight debian, after it's installed, before you update anything, you change the sources.list to have "unstable" entries normally where it would say "stable" on all the repos. After that you effectively upgraded from stable to the most awesome part of debian ever. Now i don't dare try this on ubuntu (ubuntu is based off of sid repos in the first place, but hand picked packages by the devs) or i'd break my os, but i really need to remove myself from ubuntu. I find it it too limiting, plus with every 6 month release of ubuntu, while everything is getting better, it's all that new distros  can be dumb****s about and base every single distro off of ubuntu, after that ubuntu usually has one or two significant bugs per release or something like that. Edgy was a good release while feisty is not. And why everybody has to base everything off of ubuntu for tons of other distros? Because their retards, why base off of ubuntu when there's plenty of debian branches like stable and sid. That's why whenever i see something that's based on debian, and not based on ubuntu-debian, i get excited. And when i see something that's based on sid, hell i just want to ****ing use it badly.

Now why not just install straight debian? Well because i am a big fan of having a distro that's on one cd, and doesn't require 7dvd's or a net installer to use, plus livecd's are great, i use them all the time. Mepis was great, but i'm moving on to bigger fish.

After that knoppix technology is really awesome, i did consider installing knoppix on the hard drive, but it's just not a viable option for really anybody to do as knoppix is effectively livecd only. Morphix on the other hand, is based on straight debian. It's modular, you can build you're own distribution with it, and you can base it off of any debian branch you desire. I'm getting more experienced with linux, and i think i'll try tackling morphix for fun, in the end i know i will be having a morphix livecd debian sid distro, which is right now my linux wetdream. And yes i do know about sidux, and right now after trying it a month ago, it totally stretches it's o-ring a little too much, but sidux is the product of kanotixes break down (not joking about that). And yes in the first place kanotix sounded kickass as it's based on debian sid, but then i heard a new version was in development to be based on debian stable, hearing this news while at the same time kanotix is dying because it dev team just literally doesn't work well together.

[Mars]

You do know you can install the base debian from a single CD and then just install the packages you want, right?

[S-99]

Yes i do know, but i desire something more awesome than that.

EDIT: **** MORPHIX...not completely, just in an abondment kind of way. Morphix is awesome at furthering the capabilities of knoppix and should continue to do so. But, i don't need to make my own distro. Did more research on kanotix, and yes kanotix is dying, but the people who left kanotix made sidux, and siduxe's new version seems to have the kinks the worked out from there last Xaoc release. So yes, it's debian sid what i've been dying for, and a livecd, i doubt it will replace the power of mepis which has replaced my knoppix cd to the trash years ago for livecd purposes. I'll get going with sidux since it has what i desire...kde-lite(there's a reason why i abhor stuff like khangman in kde-full and all the other apps i'll be making a thorough run through in synaptic to remove a whole load of ****), debian sid based, and a live-cd.

Speaking of software i don't use, it's the reason i like kubuntu and linux mint. Both are ubuntu releases and are have the programs you expect and need with nothing else. Hmmm, yes, linux mint has a great application suite it comes with that won't have you going around synaptic removing all the **** you don't need, or going through synaptic clicking on all the **** you do need. But what really comes in first place for absolute essentials and not needing anything else is kubuntu. Oh man, the kubuntu install not accompanied by the second disc which isn't necessary nor recommended. Oh man, no games, has all the office, internet, multimedia, and graphics software you expect and nothing else. The only thing on kubuntu i go into synaptic for is firefox (i'm a fan of konqueror admiring it's speed and security and compatibility and at doing everything on the web, except that it has trouble logging into my hotmail as where firefox never does).