[Snail]

In FS1 the Terrans made many, many important advancements, but in FS2 this wasn't so true. Most new technology was either Vasudan (Deimos reactors, beams, flak) or a joint development effort (meson bomb). Some things like stealth ships, awacs, TAG missiles go to the Terrans. RBC's are just an evolution of beam technology, nothing terribly groundbreaking. 

There's no canon evidence that beam cannons (as in beam cannons in general) were created by the Vasudans, is there? Neither is there canon evidence for flak (but IMO flak cannons better be Vasudan or the Vasudans are just ****ing lackeys ). Stealth ships, "better" weapons and RBCs are very instrumental to military engagements (TAG missiles not so much j/k).

[AlphaOne]

Well when you have your back against the wall the vasudans would use quite some RBC's also is it just me or do the vasudans have at least 2 times the number of corvettes that the terrans do???

[Gamma_Draconis]

Maybe because the Vasudans are more industrially capable of producing a larger fleet of corvettes? Also, they didn't have the misfortune of a rebel uprising.

[AlphaOne]

On the contrary ! Rememeber the HOL uprising! If i remember corectly it was even more crippeling to the Vasudans then the NTF was to the terrans even if boght terrans and vasudans suffered casualties in that specific conflict! Also looking at the way the vasudans are gooing at this they seem to get one good design that works then mass produce it. When that specific thing is no longer up to standards they usualy replace it even if they sometimes try to upgrade it like they did with the typhon. So even if the Vasudans have lots of corvettes i do not believe they have and equal number of destroyers as the terrans do. I believe it was said in the tech room description that the Hatshepsut  class of destroyers is brand new and that they have yet to finish a lot of them .

At least not nearly enough of them to supliment the holes left out by the old Typhon. They tend to supliment this with loads of corvettes however. I believe that once they near completion of a new batch of destroyers the number of vasudan destroyers will increase at a very fast rate. They have all the corvettes they need they lack however destroyers.


Also it is safe to asume that the vasudans will try to make theyr own Iceni or at least a variant of theyr own. Either way let us all remember that the Deimos would not be such a kickarse ship without its vasudan reactors and power sistems .

I also believe similar tipes of vasudan reactor would of been implemented in the Hecate class destroyers since its pretty obvious vasudans are better at this. 

However one thing im disapaointed is that we have yet to see if a vasudan beam can be overloaded the same way a terran beam is. sure there is the one with the Psamtick but noone cares about that one. Aside from taht we have no clear reference to vasudans overloading beam cannons.

Cuz if they can overload beam cannons then the terrans are well done for in case of a war.  Better HP better ship designs and overall standar weaponry, better offensive capabilaties on the Vasudan part. So the odds to me its seems are on the vasudan side.

[Marcus Vesper]

The Hammer of Light is old news though.  So sure, both the Terrans and Vasudans have had a rebel uprising, but only the NTF happened recently.  The Vasudan economy rebounded remarkably, despite their home planet being razed by the Lucifer, so claims that they can outproduce use aren't particularly far fetched.

[lenard27]

Also, I think the threat of the Hammer of Light has been completely eliminated by this time.  Even if there are a few HOL bases/ships left, it wouldn't even compare to the military of the NTF.  Also, if the Terrans and Vasudans became enemies, wouldn't the NTF join forces with the GTA?  That's what they wanted in the first place.  Plus, there's the whole "enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing.

[admiral_wolf]

The thing is, the NTF is nearly dead, if not completely finished.  What little forces they have left were probably in the Nebula following Bosch.  Any survivors were probably tried for War Crimes under the BeTac Convention.  If the alliance did collapse, I think it is safe to say, it would be a stalemate between both sides.

[colecampbell666]

Also, if the Terrans and Vasudans became enemies, wouldn't the NTF join forces with the GTA?  That's what they wanted in the first place.  Plus, there's the whole "enemy of my enemy is my friend" thing.

No, the hatred of Vasudans was a ruse to get Ancient tech/knowledge.

[Jeff Vader]

No, the hatred of Vasudans was a ruse to get Ancient tech/knowledge.

Yeah, but only for Bosch and a few selected high-ranking officers. It was pretty clearly stated that the majority of the NTF fought solely because of their hatred and fear for the Vasudans. Bosch merely exploited that little fact so that he could masquerade his raiding operations and draw attention away from his true plans.

[AlphaOne]

The fact remains that the terrans and vasudans have suffered quite a blow to both theyr economies and milatary might in theyr conflict against the Shivans with the trrans loosing the most destroyer sized vessels. However the vasudans also lost quite a number of them considering that they only had a hand full of Typhon's and Hatshepsuts. However i do believe that the total number of destroyers were about equal in terms of destroyers. Yet the terrans have lost many more.

As for corvettes and cruisers the vasudans at least when it omes to corvettes would have a 2:1 ratio over terrans. Since the Sobek has been in production much longer then the Deimos.

An eventual war would be cripaling to both sides but still i believe that the Vasudans with superior manufacturing and economy lvl's should be able to barely win the war. however it would not be a total victory since in the war they would surely loose a horrific amount of ships. So a victory yes a total win no!

[Snail]

I don't think the Vasudans would win personally, as much as I like those great frog-headed head eating aliens.

[AlphaOne]

youre just beein terran. arogant ya know! those damn terrans they always think they are the center of the universe hell they dont even eat headz )) sorry! i was thinking of what a vasudan would say!

[Snail]

Nah, they would say something more like "Typical arrogant Terrans with your stupid looking asses! I'll moon you when I jump out in my escape pod!!"

But seriously, I think a Vasudan-Terran war would come to a draw. What you said before (about the Vasudans not winning a total victory) is completely correct, but I don't think the Vasudans would be able to completely crush the Terran resistance, and the Terrans wouldn't be able to defeat the entire Vasudan race.

Both races have extremely powerful technologies, and are advanced in different aspects. The Vasudans are better at reactors and general engineering, the Terrans have better weapons and newer technologies.

It looks to me that there would be a long war that would come to an eventual cease fire, if not the Terrans would win.