[Flipside]

I don't know why these arguments always centre around the Monarchy anyway, they have no real power, and even if we dissolved the Monarchy, does anybody actually believe that any of that money would make it's way back to the public? People will happily say that the Monarchy is a drain on money, but suggest that people who can't afford to raise more children stop having them and all hell breaks loose, suggest we use Nuclear power more because it's greener and cheaper and you get the same reaction.

There are so many drains on the UK economy, and, especially with the tourist revenues they bring in, the Royal Family are a very small drain indeed.

Thing is, make it about a grudge from several hundred years ago, and it's voting for all the wrong reasons.

[Ravenholme]

I don't know why these arguments always centre around the Monarchy anyway, they have no real power, and even if we dissolved the Monarchy, does anybody actually believe that any of that money would make it's way back to the public? People will happily say that the Monarchy is a drain on money, but suggest that people who can't afford to raise more children stop having them and all hell breaks loose, suggest we use Nuclear power more because it's greener and cheaper and you get the same reaction.

There are so many drains on the UK economy, and, especially with the tourist revenues they bring in, the Royal Family are a very small drain indeed.

Thing is, make it about a grudge from several hundred years ago, and it's voting for all the wrong reasons.

It has very little to do with the Monarchy, I was pointing out to those who were saying that it had something to do with the Monarchy being English that most people are aware that the Monarchy is Scottish, we just don't really care

[Flipside]

Heh To be honest, I think the Royal family is more Germanic than anything else now anyway

I suppose the point I'm trying to make is that that such a referendum should be done for the present, not the past, it's easy to think of the English as 'oppressors', I got called an Imperialistic Bastard in Glasgow because I was from London, as though I, personally, fought my way up to the border, built a wall and then proceeded to raid and pillage Scotland for years afterwards. I didn't, and the chances are high that I'm not even related to someone who did, since my family migrated from France to the Midlands, just being a 'Londoner' doesn't mean that I am associated with or even condone the actions of the English during that time.

Scotland deserves control over it's own finances and parliament, I'll fully agree with that and fortunately the SNP has the leverage with England to get a good percentage of it now, but personally I think dissolving the union entirely will do far more harm to both countries than good.