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Offline BritishShivans

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Re: FRED, and clearing up confusion/finding someplace to start
Okay, I fixed the cruisers, but now Slepinir doesn't do what they're supposed to do. Slepinir One docks with the Orion and departs, but the rest of Slepinir just sits there and does nothing despite being set up to do the same.

Can I email the .fs2 file to one of you, and can you help me find the error?

 
Re: FRED, and clearing up confusion/finding someplace to start
That should be pretty simple to troubleshoot. I remember this mission, and actually added a few more things to expand it.

Can you post the relevant event(s) here?

 

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Re: FRED, and clearing up confusion/finding someplace to start
With regards to long sexps (I know it's a bit behind the conversation, but whatever):

I thought about writing it down, actually.

I guess I'll just have to figure out how to deal with long events. I'll get there. Eventually.

Not sure if you meant this literally or not, but you really should give it a go one. I keep a big A4 pad and pen next to my computer at all times when FREDding, and I cover it with little boxes and arrows - it really helps me to write down all the steps I need to follow when writing long sexps/sexp chains/event trees whatever. You get a much more visual, sensible "map" of your event, and you can often see errors or potential errors much easier on paper than on the screen.
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Re: FRED, and clearing up confusion/finding someplace to start
I keep a big A4 pad and pen next to my computer at all times when FREDding, and I cover it with little boxes and arrows - it really helps me to write down all the steps I need to follow when writing long sexps/sexp chains/event trees whatever. You get a much more visual, sensible "map" of your event, and you can often see errors or potential errors much easier on paper than on the screen.

I cannot FRED without this.
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Offline BritishShivans

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Re: FRED, and clearing up confusion/finding someplace to start
Right, I've pretty much finished all the SEXPs, and they work. However, I'm not sure how to do SEXP that becomes true after any of the four SEXPS relating to the Orion being disabled, disarmed, or destroyed, plus Slepinir being destroyed. Without messing it up, of course.

 
Re: FRED, and clearing up confusion/finding someplace to start
If I'm understanding what you're looking for, you want this SEXP to return true after your Orion is dead/disabled/disarmed OR for something called the Slepnir to be destroyed. Assuming that's correct, you should have a SEXP that looks like this:

-When
--OR
---Is-disarmed-delay
----Delay Time
----Name-Of-Your-Orion
---Is-disabled-delay
----Delay Time
----Name-Of-Your-Orion
---Is-destroyed-delay
----Delay Time
----Name-Of-Your-Orion
---Is-destroyed-delay
----Delay Time
----Slepnir
-Do-nothing


 

Offline BritishShivans

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Re: FRED, and clearing up confusion/finding someplace to start
Okay thanks. That clears it up a bit.

 

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Re: FRED, and clearing up confusion/finding someplace to start
I would double-check mobcdmoc3's answer.  Is the destruction of Slepinir a requirement for the SEXP to be true, regardless of what happens with the Orion?  If so, then mobcdmoc3's answer is incorrect, and the SEXP should be this:

When
--AND
----OR
------Is-disarmed-delay
--------Delay Time
--------Name-Of-Your-Orion
------Is-disabled-delay
--------Delay Time
--------Name-Of-Your-Orion
------Is-destroyed-delay
--------Delay Time
--------Name-Of-Your-Orion
----Is-destroyed-delay
------Delay Time
------Slepnir
--Do-nothing

 
Re: FRED, and clearing up confusion/finding someplace to start
That's what I was afraid of, hence why I put up a sentence evaluating my understanding of what he wanted. I *hope* that I didn't get the wrong idea :blah:

  

Offline BritishShivans

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Re: FRED, and clearing up confusion/finding someplace to start
But really, both of your posts have been very informative. I just need to go and finish the mission itself at some point.