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Offline Al-Rik

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Re: Interesting article concerning guns, violence and video games
A 13rd year old boy plays Daddy's COD and brings a pebble gun to school ?
Thank god hey didn't read his Mommy's exemplar of fifty shades of grey, heaven knows that he would have taken to school in that case...

If your 13 year old child consumes media that is meant for adults something goes wrong... and the wrong thing is not the violence in the media, it is bad parenting.

 

Offline Polpolion

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A 13rd year old boy plays Daddy's COD and brings a pebble gun to school ?
Thank god hey didn't read his Mommy's exemplar of fifty shades of grey, heaven knows that he would have taken to school in that case...

If your 13 year old child consumes media that is meant for adults something goes wrong... and the wrong thing is not the violence in the media, it is bad parenting.

Except CoD is targeted for 13 year olds.

 

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A 13rd year old boy plays Daddy's COD and brings a pebble gun to school ?
Thank god hey didn't read his Mommy's exemplar of fifty shades of grey, heaven knows that he would have taken to school in that case...

If your 13 year old child consumes media that is meant for adults something goes wrong... and the wrong thing is not the violence in the media, it is bad parenting.

Except CoD is targeted for 13 year olds.

"No"

 

Offline Sarafan

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Ace Combat games

Hey, I always liked those Sukhois in those games, where can I buy one?

Contact manufacturer for further information.

If you're interested in tanks by chance there are some T-72s available starting around 50k USD from eastern europe.

You can actually buy them? Are they full of important military equipment thats too valuable for civilians? And 50k sounds cheap for a tank.

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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You can actually buy them? Are they full of important military equipment thats too valuable for civilians? And 50k sounds cheap for a tank.

It's legal for an American citizen to own foreign military equipment that's more than twenty years old and has been demilitarized (usually by removing firing pins and breach blocks from weapons). There are several Mi-24s in private ownership in the US, and a number of older MiGs.
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You can actually buy them? Are they full of important military equipment thats too valuable for civilians? And 50k sounds cheap for a tank.

http://www.mortarinvestments.eu/products/tanks-2#currency=USD


"No"

 

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You can actually buy them? Are they full of important military equipment thats too valuable for civilians? And 50k sounds cheap for a tank.

http://www.mortarinvestments.eu/products/tanks-2#currency=USD


Oh, man, this takes american gun culture to a whole new level.

 
Re: Interesting article concerning guns, violence and video games
Oh, man, this takes american gun culture to a whole new level.

I just can't help imagining rolling up to work in a BMP-1 or driving out of the surf and up the beach in a BRDM-2 and freaking out people who think they're being invaded.

Just thinking about being able to drive around town without worrying if anybody will cut me off or tailgate me (and if they do, just rotate the turret toward them :D) makes me happy.
I know they're probably not street-legal, just let me have fantasy

 
Re: Interesting article concerning guns, violence and video games
Hey, I always liked those Sukhois in those games, where can I buy one?

Sukhoi Su-27 Flanker: about 5M$.
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I want that so bad.
If I'm just aching this can't go on
I came from chasing dreams to feel alone
There must be changes, miss to feel strong
I really need lifе to touch me
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Offline deathfun

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Shame you can't have nearly as much fun with it as you'd want
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2. Section 602.32 of the Regulations is replaced by the following:

602.32 (1) Subject to subsection (2), no person shall

(a) operate an aircraft at an indicated airspeed of more than 250 knots if the aircraft is below 10,000 feet ASL; or

(b) operate an aircraft at an indicated airspeed of more than 200 knots if the aircraft is below 3,000 feet AGL within 10 nautical miles of a controlled aerodrome unless authorized to do so in an air traffic control clearance.

(2) A person may operate an aircraft at an indicated airspeed greater than the airspeeds referred to in subsection (1) if the aircraft is being operated in accordance with a special flight operations certificate – special aviation event issued pursuant to section 603.02.

(3) If the minimum safe airspeed for the flight configuration of an aircraft is greater than the airspeed referred to in subsection (1), the aircraft shall be operated at the minimum safe airspeed.
"No"

 

Offline The E

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Section 2 is the relevant part here. Planes like these are flown as exhibition planes during air shows, not for simple fun (Not to mention that, even if you can afford the base price tag for the plane and its ongoing maintenance, the fuel cost must be enormous).
If I'm just aching this can't go on
I came from chasing dreams to feel alone
There must be changes, miss to feel strong
I really need lifе to touch me
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Offline Herra Tohtori

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Re: Interesting article concerning guns, violence and video games
Last night I flew a Consolidated B-24 Liberator with a full load of sixteen 500-kilogram bombs over a German-occupied city, dropped my bomb load on the railroad yard, and destroyed 43 train cars, probably causing untold amounts of personnel loss and collateral damage. Then, enemy FW-190 intercepted me, shot my right wing full of holes, gave me many fuel leaks, coolant leaks, and disabled my ailerons. I was able to bring the plane back to straight and level with rudders and differential thrust. On the way home, my engine #3 failed, which meant I had to further reduce throttle on the engines #1 and #2 to avoid rolling the plane to the right. With help from my team-mates, I managed to escape the enemy planes and return to base safely, gaining 1440 points.

I also beheaded several bandit thugs with Glamdring Foe-Hammer, and slayed a dragon.

When I grow up I would like to own a real B-24, a real FW-190 and the real Glamdring.
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Re: Interesting article concerning guns, violence and video games
I wonder if the same applies to games that feature swords and shields instead of the one of the first most awesome semi automatic pistols out there...

I suppose that if people feel inclined to do so, a readily available kitchen knife would be sufficient for emulating a sword fight (that is, if they have a similarly-minded opponent) or murdering in cold blood. Firearms, of course, are generally harder to come by, so generally relatively few people own them yet they have the power to affect things at range and potentially do more harm, unlike someone wielding a knife (on that subject, there was a recent MythBusters episode in which they experimented with gun vs. knife scenarios, it was kind of interesting).

(I will admit, I am quite fond of the idea of owning a Colt M1911. Not because of games, but the fact you're essentially holding history in your hands. The thing has been around for a hundred years. That's bloody ****ing awesome)

The nearest experience I have to using a gun was at an airshow when I was about 9 or 10. There was some sort of an army careers tent there with a small mock shooting range. The gun was a light or infrared gun that looked like a replica (it had a scope but I'm not sure what gun it was an emulation of), and it seemed heavy and solid enough to be real to me. The targets consisted of colored lights on a circular board. At first I was put off by the idea, it didn't feel right to me. But somehow I came around to wanting to have a go, maybe because I saw my friend try it out. There was a long queue there, mostly consisting of young kids/adolescents. Somehow I impressed the soldier who was supervising enough to tell me that he should have me enlisted, obviously he was joking about that (I think). I smiled and thought "No thank you". I can't say I came away from it feeling any more attached to guns than I was before. It was fun while it lasted, but it did feel a bit unsettling just holding and aiming it.

EDIT: The whole thing was definitely geared towards future recruitment. I suppose it's something I find unsettling, especially as there were so many children there.

Before that experience I owned a light gun for the computer and a few water guns, but apart from play-fighting with them nothing really came of it in terms of developing an interest in weapons.

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You hear a 12-year-old trash talking on Call of Duty multiplayer, you report him -- not because he called you a "fagmobile," but because he's too young to be playing that game.
...is that something we ought to be doing? What do you folks think

Having been gaming since I was about 4, I've seen how digital entertainment has advanced and I can understand the effect games could have (but not necessarily - since other factors influence behavior too) on a young person's mind, especially with regards to violent content. I agree with the idea of more stringent adherence of ESRB ratings and such, especially on the part of parents and games retailers (the former more so).

Personally I don't think I can see see myself reporting, or berating someone else's child for ignoring age ratings though.
« Last Edit: February 06, 2013, 05:45:44 am by lostllama »

 

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Re: Interesting article concerning guns, violence and video games

You can actually buy them? Are they full of important military equipment thats too valuable for civilians? And 50k sounds cheap for a tank.

http://www.mortarinvestments.eu/products/tanks-2#currency=USD


Oh, man, this takes american gun culture to a whole new level.

You can buy one in several European countries as well I believe. It's actually easier to buy a tank than a handgun in the UK IIRC.
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you think i can get DOD stickers for the BMP i've just decided to buy so that i can drive it to work?  if i get it fast enough, i can take it to the newport news yard i'm at now.  i'd never be bothered by hobos again.

although getting it across the bridge tunnel might be problematic.  don't want to get shot at by a passing destroyer from the naval station.
I like to stare at the sun.

 

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Re: Interesting article concerning guns, violence and video games
you think i can get DOD stickers for the BMP i've just decided to buy so that i can drive it to work?  if i get it fast enough, i can take it to the newport news yard i'm at now.  i'd never be bothered by hobos again.

although getting it across the bridge tunnel might be problematic.  don't want to get shot at by a passing destroyer from the naval station.

Better check local emissions regulations.
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Offline Klaustrophobia

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*rolls up to inspection booth at tunnel*
*point turret at booth*
*pop hatch, stick head out*

"hey buddy, does this count as a truck that needs to stop for inspection?  no?  cool."

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