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Offline Kamikaze

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I've been playing around recentlly trying to get various 2d effects looking nice... (screwing around with BBS templates as well) and I saw a thread in Reciprocity with something about background making so I made a, what is supposed to be, a black hole...



any comments would be appreciated :) (yeah, I know the white background doesn't fit ;))
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Offline Stryke 9

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Offline Kamikaze

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Originally posted by Stryke 9
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Can I take taht as a :no:? :p
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Offline Stryke 9

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Er, yes, a slightly more polite one.

Give it some detail or something, then MAYBE...

 

Offline Kamikaze

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I did it in a few minutes as a kind of "idea sketch" 'cept on the computer so......
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Offline Gortef

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hmm... it could be a cool logo
Habeeb it...

 

Offline Tiara

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If ya want a black hole... do it like this :










^ :) You like? ^

P.S : If you see nothing above... GOOD : A black hole cannot be seen by the naked eye. :D:p
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Offline Unknown Target

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But..I saw something...does that mean something's wrong with me?

I saw the infinite universes of our time, melding into one, single entitiy. Light fro-, oh, never mind...:D

 

Offline Nico

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Originally posted by Tiara
If ya want a black hole... do it like this :










^ :) You like? ^

P.S : If you see nothing above... GOOD : A black hole cannot be seen by the naked eye. :D:p


you see what is around :p
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Offline Carl

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or you could do it the right way:
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Offline Unknown Target

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No Carl! Bad, bad carl! Firstly, there should not be a red rim around the hole. Secondly, get a better program than paint!

 

Offline Kamikaze

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Originally posted by Tiara
If ya want a black hole... do it like this :










^ :) You like? ^

P.S : If you see nothing above... GOOD : A black hole cannot be seen by the naked eye. :D:p


yeah, but you see the stuff that's giong into it.. say, it's near a sun. It's going to suck the sun up (so to speak)
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Offline Carl

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No Carl! Bad, bad carl! Firstly, there should not be a red rim around the hole. Secondly, get a better program than paint!


firstly, there would be a red rim around it. secondly, i used photoshop.
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Offline Ashrak

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carls dothingie is pretty acurate.......u cant see nuting.... cause it 1 warps time 2 warps space
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Offline Zeronet

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Originally posted by Tiara
If ya want a black hole... do it like this :










^ :) You like? ^

P.S : If you see nothing above... GOOD : A black hole cannot be seen by the naked eye. :D:p


Yeah it can, you'll notice the blackness and the extremely distored view of space around its rim.
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Offline an0n

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Actually, it's pretty much what Carl did/made/demonstrated but there'd be a slightly denser starfield around the event horizon and there'd be some wierd-ass colour effects there too.
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Can you make that available for the stars table and a .pcx Carl?

Oh yes the possibilities (evil Grin) :drevil:

For the rest of you... Yes yes a black screen already been done 4 times now!!! We get it :rolleyes:

Red trim? Methinks you have been watching "That Movie" too many times. BUT that would be awesome to have that effect in game... With motion even (Use the bab5 warp ani as a basis)

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Offline Unknown Target

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There wouldn't be a red rim around it. It's a black hole, all light would go inside, and it would be totally dark. It would look literally like a hole in space.

 

Offline Stryke 9

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But you wouldn't be seeing the outline of the hole itself, anyway. Black hole, the thing's pretty damn small- not quite pinhead most times, but close. Still, the AREA around a black hole's very dark, 'cos all the light gets absorbed from a very long distance away, there's such force. Matter, even farther. But, theoretically at least, since certain wavelengths of light are, basically, faster than others, they'd have enough escape velocity to avoid the black hole and only get bent around it at different points. If someone shone a really big, bright light behind a black hole, on the other side you'd probably see something like a damn strange rainbow. Since there's not generally a noticeable amount of light in deep space, however, you really wouldn't see anything.

 
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
But you wouldn't be seeing the outline of the hole itself, anyway. Black hole, the thing's pretty damn small- not quite pinhead most times, but close. Still, the AREA around a black hole's very dark, 'cos all the light gets absorbed from a very long distance away, there's such force. Matter, even farther. But, theoretically at least, since certain wavelengths of light are, basically, faster than others, they'd have enough escape velocity to avoid the black hole and only get bent around it at different points. If someone shone a really big, bright light behind a black hole, on the other side you'd probably see something like a damn strange rainbow. Since there's not generally a noticeable amount of light in deep space, however, you really wouldn't see anything.


nope nope nope.  and nope.

1) all wavelengths of light travel the same speed: the speed of LIGHT.  186,000 mi/hr or 300,000,000 m/s

2) black holes are actually very small and invisible. They have the strongest graviational pull known.  As we should all know, gravity gets weaker the farther you are from an object.  This is the hard part.  The event horizon is the distance from the black hole where nothing, including light can escape its gravitational pull.  If you get closer to the hole than that distance, ie inside the event horizon, you ARE NOT comin back.  Anything outside of the event horizon, you can see.  All black holes are detected indirectly because we can see the stuff being sucked into it.  That stuff gets pulled into orbit around the black hole.  As it gets closer to the event horizon, the stuff get compressed, and it moves faster.  As a consequence, it gives off radiation of all forms, xrays, radio, gamma rays, light, heat, etc.  So yes Carl's black hole should have the red rim around it, canuse what hes showing you is actually matter falling past the event horizon.