[Knight Templar]

I had an idea. I was in class (biology strangely) the other day and we had a class debate. I hadn't remember how much i enjoy that untill then , and sadly my English teacher is an incompotent fool, so i doubt we will have any debates with her, other than Trying to excuse homework , Anyways, more to the point i say we make a debate thread. Some where along the lines of these parameters.
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-  A set topic is chosen or brought up, if it is suitable, it becomes the topic.

- Either A) Set teams, you get 3 - 6 hours from the posting of the topic to decide what team you will play for or
           
             B) Free-for-all. This may be prefreble, but most free-for-all's end in OT or Flame wars.

- All debates end in 1 (or 2 ) week(s). This should be ample time to argue your point and So on. A Time limit also allows for closing arguements and such. It also allows for new topics to be brought up uninterupted.

- no personal flaming  we are here to get our ideas across and debate, not flame or diss' .

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I have a few questions for you now.

1) Admins, could you please watch this thread closely, a flame thread would kill this and would be a huge let down.

2) How should topics be chosen? Whoever throws one out there the quickest after one ends? Vote? Admin chosen? I'm open to anything really.

3) how should teams be chosen, if we decide to have them? Would teams be too complicated?
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That is all i can come up with i believe for now. Please people, get back to me on this. Once the variables are kicked out, i have an idea for debate. LEt's make this work

[wEvil]

CPS, Kellan or Myself will win, you realise?

[CP5670]

now all we need is a topic...

[Knight Templar]

  Su - Thep is a Lawyer in Training i believe and i am an aspiring one. that's good though, as long as the sides are semi balanced

[Knight Templar]

now all we need is a topic...

I can't wait

[CP5670]

I'm no lawyer but I argue all the time anyway.

[Knight Templar]

i can go ahead and throw out here the topic that we used in Biology :  


Stem Cell Research

for and against it. If you aren't familiar with the topic. then see a Pyschayatrist    I think that link covers most of it.

Basically the idea is it could save a lot of human lives and suffering, but the moral delima is that it is taking away life from unborn baby's, essentially never letting them be born.

Sound like a good topic?

[vadar_1]

Stem cell researched has been banned by the government. You can't change the government, so whats there to debate? How about the hot issue reguarding toxic wallpaper glue.

[Knight Templar]

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well the debate in my class (i don't know what i think about my teacher yet) was that wether it would be worth it or not, morally/ethicaly,and logically to go through with it. It wasn't a matter of wether or not we could change the fact (Bush = Moron)

Besides nobody said we had to use it. Just throwing out an idea like i said.

Banned by the government

you mean banned by bush. He wouldn't want to lose the catholic vote now, would he?

[wEvil]

stem cell and genetics research is something we categorically MUST do.

It can pave the way for total cures to genetic conditions, replacement organs.

and you can bet your bottom currency that the "govornment" bans it while practising their own research...just under control of a few "trusted" individuals

[CP5670]

Yeah, there is no real reason not to go ahead with stem cell research; I suppose there are significant financial considerations, but the potential benefits are fairly high.

[Knight Templar]

I agree, stem cells could help us as a race by leeps and bounds. It's the closest thing that we have to curing a varity of incureable problems at hand (Brain Damage and liver damage just to name some off the top of my head) Not to meantion replacements for lost organs, as said before. I beleive it's the next step foward in Medical Technology and advancement.


hmmm this won't be much of a debate if this keeps up , somebody find some dedicated republicans and haul em' in here

[DragonClaw]

Whether Archspace is better than Nodewars





Oops.

[CP5670]

Even if it had no practical benefits, it is still well worth it just for the advancement of theory.

How about HLP vs. VW?

[Kamikaze]

Originally posted by wEvil
CPS, Kellan or Myself will win, you realise?

*me mumbles*

On stem cell research, pretty much everything they said up above. The only reason people would consider not doing it because of outdated religious "beliefs" (I don't think the bible ever explicitly states that alteration of humans is bad though, can't be 100% sure though) or because somehow it's not "correct" to alter humans. All this is bull**** as humans have been scrweing their bodies over since long ago and altering the course of many species... (dogs for example)  Note: Thre reason I presented the altering of species thing is largely because of religious argument is on the line of "you shouldn't become gods" anyway, why would a god who didn't want us to be mini-gods let us do it? (so far we havne't seen any divine lightning strike a laboratory have we?)

how about a new subject?

[CP5670]

I don't know what we "should" or "should not" be doing, but the fact is that we can, so screw that.

[Carl]

altering humans has nothing to do with it. it's the killing of the unborn babies that's the problem.

[CP5670]

And what is wrong with that?

[Kamikaze]

Originally posted by CP5670
I don't know what we "should" or "should not" be doing, but the fact is that we can, so screw that.

true, but what about stupid things like "nuclear testing in ohio"? Are we going to do that 'cause we can (yeah I'm twisting your point and enjoying it so ) Or, "should" we not?

And what is wrong with that

again, religious people/dumb people who are too deeply rooted in tradition/humaness to be objective/rational.

[Blue Lion]

Free will vs. Determinism

*runs*