[Killfrenzy]

After being given the proper blueprints for it from Culando, and realising that whilst passable, it's still wrong, I've decided to release the Arwing on the public domain (partly because of a total lack of interest from you lot! )

Suggestions appreciated as usual........but remember this is VERY early (and wrong). A vastly improved Arwing should be showing up eventually!

EDIT: Thanks to crappy Geocities:mad2:, I have to ask you to go this way round:

Go to

www.geocities.com/killfrenzy_the_shivan/index.htm

And there you will find a small link to the file. It's the only way to do this at the moment, and I apologise.

[diamondgeezer]

KF mate, you'd be wanting to use this link

And that's not a bad effort at all. I know this isn't a final release or anything, but you do realise there's a hole under the starboard blue thingy, right?

[HotSnoJ]

DANG it in FS2 format! I thought it'd be in Cob or something.

[Black_Dragon]

Convert it to COB,   using PCS or POF2COB

[Killfrenzy]

Originally posted by diamondgeezer
KF mate, you'd be wanting to use this link

And that's not a bad effort at all. I know this isn't a final release or anything, but you do realise there's a hole under the starboard blue thingy, right?

THX, DG. I'll change that in a mo.

And is there? Odd.....extremely odd........you see, I make all my models from one cube and just extrude faces and arse around with faces/vertices/points.

Could you show me exactly WHERE the hole is? Then I can try and work out what went wrong.....

Also, I want your opinion guys: Are four guns and one missile bay okay in those positions? Or do you want some stuff changed?

Also, DON'T use it in a mission where you've enabled support ships - as the Arwing has NEVER had any kind of re-supply port!

If anyone feels willing to make the nova bomb, be my guest - and let me have it when you're done.

[Culando]

Cool model, totally wrong but cool nonetheless. And I'm glad the Blueprints will be of help. =)

[HotSnoJ]

I might be able to make the explosion. But I only have FS1 so someone  would have to make the tables for FS2. Also I'll look for that hole you mentioned.

[StarGunner]

Originally posted by hotsnoj
I might be able to make the explosion. But I only have FS1 so someone  would have to make the tables for FS2. Also I'll look for that hole you mentioned.

hay if one of you could convert it to pof the new and better model when it's dune I can do gun ports for it.

[Killfrenzy]

When I do a pof, I do the mesh, basic texturing, pof data, tbl data, and all the interface gubbins as well.

With regards to putting the Arwing into the FS universe, is the current armament okay with you guys? That's what I need to know.

[HotSnoJ]

Nova Bomb BLAST! I like it when things go BOOM! Hehehe *eye twitches*

[Killfrenzy]

Is that something you've made for the mod?

[HotSnoJ]

ya with more work it'll be a good Nova Bomb explosion.

[HotSnoJ]

Hey when are we getting a forum? I'll try to find a host until HLP hosts us.

Anyway I'm working on the Nova Bomb blast. quite interesting. I'll post some pics and an AVI when I get the conversions done.

[EdrickV]

Ok, now I'm going to have to use my old paper arwing (came in a Nintendo power issue) and try to make an arwing model.

[EdrickV]

And I did!






And before anyone asks, the zip file link is below. The model is triangulated and has a UV map. (Probably not a very good one but those are editable.) The zip has cob, obj, and LithUnwrap's lum versions. I think it's pretty good, but there is some funky geometry on the trailing edges of the wings that connects to the main hull. (Results of an edge extrude I think.) It's not too visible, but maybe someone else can find a way to get rid of it without screwing up anything. Also, the stabilizer pods (or whatever the two odd things attached to the wings are called) are connected to the angled pieces by some stuff you can't see very well normally. (If you moved them up you'd see a "bridge" connecting them.) I had trouble getting the right shape while attached (this started off as one thing) and ended cutting one off and re-attaching it. I then cut the model in half and mirrored it so the other side would match. I used an old battered paper arwing as a basis. And I'm not quite sure the wings are angled right, but it's tough to change that in Wings3D. The model is fully triangulated and still only comes to 264 polys. Have fun.

http://members.aol.com/ariskalzar/Arwing2.zip

[HotSnoJ]

pretty good! what format is it in? Looks like the SNES version. Now we need a good N64 version. And could someone please tell me why we need both a SNES and a N64 version of the Arwing?

[Killfrenzy]

*Feels redundant*

I should have kept my mouth shut........

Besides, I'm gonna try and follow the blueprints making a higher-poly model.....

[diamondgeezer]

I'd rather be flying the old SNES Arwing, purely for the retro goodness.

Starfox would have been my favourite SNES game were it not for Zelda, Mario, Mariokart and the rest. However, let there be no doubt - Starfox is, was, and allways shall be the Dog's Bollocks. Thank you.

[EdrickV]

Originally posted by Killfrenzy
*Feels redundant*

I should have kept my mouth shut........

Besides, I'm gonna try and follow the blueprints making a higher-poly model.....

You're not redundant. You did a lot more stuff for your model then I did for mine.  And I know that I'd be out of my depth texturing the arwing. I just happened to have an old paper model of an arwing that I worked from. (Said model would be useless for texturing though as it's not textured in any style I remember from the games.) I think mine is also the original arwing, though I don't recall what was different for the N64 version. I just made mine to see if I could. (And it was quite a challenge to do some of that stuff.) It doesn't have the useful extras like shield icons, interface graphics, and of course textures. But it might be useful as an additional reference, since I'm not sure how detailed those blueprints are. (Only blueprints I've seen were in a little pic with what I think were top and side views of an arwing. A 3D model you can look at from any angle can help a lot more IMHO. (This is the second non-original model I've worked on, the first being an Oberth from Robotech and I only had some pictures and stuff on my Macross & Robotech DVDs to work from for that.) I look forward to seeing your higher poly one.

Edit: Ok, just caught up with the other thread and saw those blueprints. Mine is definitely not the N64 version and I'm not even going to attempt to make that one, this one was trouble enough.

[StarGunner]

Of corce it was it was whay better than that rustbucket I was the most coolest one ever and it looked like a reail one too! could someone post a pic of it to show this newb how it looked.

oh and we could have two verents one with the two lasers Blue/Geen and the one with one grean laser. I could make the weapons