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Offline LtNarol

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[glow=blue]158th Banshee Squadron[/glow]

Recently released renders of a number of untextured ships to be used in Into the Night.  These can be found by travelling to The Thread

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You lot are not doing much to stroke my ego. Go look at the pretty ships, and give me some feedback so I know where I've gone horribly horribly wrong.

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a big rig?:wtf: :wtf: :wtf:
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BTW can`t we have a direct link? We have to click about 3 times to get to the actual models.
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:lol: @ Truck, flying around in your 10 wheeler :D  well apart from that they are sweet, i LOVE the GTF Panzer :eek2::eek:
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BTW can`t we have a direct link? We have to click about 3 times to get to the actual models.

To tell you the truth, I have no idea why Narol did it that way. *heh*
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:lol: @ Truck, flying around in your 10 wheeler :D  well apart from that they are sweet, i LOVE the GTF Panzer :eek2::eek:


I haven't the foggiest clue why I did a rig. That's a question for Narol.

I'm glad you like the Panzer though. That one went through a bunch of changes.  The original mesh was pretty rank, and the overall design is way overused. Here's the original, affectionally called 'fruitbat':
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The first link is to get you lazy bums to visit the 158th forum, something i know few do (don't blame yall, we've been kinda quiet until now).  The second link is to get you guys used to the Dev index, which will have other links other than mikhael soon....well, as soon as I manage to get some pics together of what the rest of the guys are working on.  The third link, obviously, takes you to the models.

As for the rig...heh heh heh, play Exposition and find out :p

 

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woah...please excuse my jaw on the floor...just don't step on it...

that fireant is abso-frigging-loutly AMAZING!!!
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woah...please excuse my jaw on the floor...just don't step on it...

that fireant is abso-frigging-loutly AMAZING!!!


Its got a hangar too.

That's a model I didn't know what to do with. It came out completely differently that we expected, and I'm not sure I like it. It did, however, prompt the creation of the Anthill, which I DO like. :D
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Cool! Very cool.:yes: :yes: :yes:

I'm goning to post some of my models for download (as soon as I upload them to my page...which will take a while!). Beats sending them to you each time LtNarol. I'll allso post pics next to each file, so you know how something looks before you download it.
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Hoo, boy! You asked for it, Mikhael, so here comes the constructive criticisim! ;)

ECW Anthill - Uhm... ok, the propellors make me think "Terran" and "nebula", since there ain't anything to blow around in open space. But there doesn't seem to be anything to blow nebular gases towards - no collector or anything, so.... what's it for?

ECW Diamonback - Hmmm, can you say, Z-95 Headhunter? Anyway, somehow I don't thinnk that one fits in FS as a regular fighter - perhaps a custom, hot-rod-type pirate thing?

ECW Dragonfly  - Nice Orca. :D Those tail fins really give it an atmospheric-craft feel. Dunno if that's good or bad, though...

ECW FireAnt - Uhmm... okay.... what is it? Another atmospheric helicopter thingy, yeah, but.... :wtf: Zeronet will like it, though - micro-hangars! ;)

ECW Journeyman - Simple, yet effective. The long, protruding guns aren't all that Freespacey, but who's counting? Would be cool if it had Myrmidon-like bomb capacity - rush in at high speed, drop the bomb, and then engage the fighters.

ECW Mandrake - :eek2: I love this ship!! Asymetrical rules - especially asymetrical Terran, which this looks to be. I love what looks like vectored engine outlets, makes it look like a perfectly designed dive-bomber, with the emphasis on the "dive".

ECW Mystic - Hmm, now that I've talked with you, Mikhael, I know what this fixation with propellors is about. Still... ;) Anyways, this one kinda reminds me of Luke's landspeeder in a way. It does the job.

TG Truck - Other than the nice chamfered edges, I have no comment.

GTB Rhino - A bomber, definitely. Has a nice unrefined look to it - very utilitarian, very it-does-the-job-and-that's-it feel. Cockpit may be a bit large, comared to the size of other FS ships - unless it's a 2-seater.

GTC Eris - well, texturing makes a world of difference, but this doesn't look like a cruiser to me - more like some sort of Vasudan prototype strike bomber. I like it in general, though.

GTC Gar - Very Aeolus-like - I assume it's a Mk II - type thing? Only thing I dislike is the engine block - looks like cargo containers. See about building a hull around those exposed engines.

SB Yali - Very Cool. Only nitpick is the 2 long struts on each side look too much alike - deform one of 'em at an endg or something, bend it back, forwards, inside-out... :p

SF Naga - Screamin' Space Superiority there!

SF Recluse - Sorry, but this one I just don't like. IMHO it looks way too much like an insect - even down to abdomen and mandibles! I don't think Shivan ships should actually be recognizable as anything specific - they can remind us of the look of something, but not be "exact" copies.

SF Wasp - Hmmm... I have basically the same complaint here as I did for the Recluse - it looks like a genetic cross between a butterfly and a wasp. However, I do think that this one is salvageable - maybe bend the wings in half drastically, add a bomb bay between them, and remove that abdomen... something like that. Just get rid of that exact butterfly-wing configuration.

SF Vampire - Again, same nitpick. I specifically don't think Shivans would employ something with wing braces or whatever - the "arms" of the bat, with the wing stretched out between them. They just don't fit.

SI Nest - Ahh, now these we don't see enough of - Shivan "bases". Kinda hard to get a mental picture of the geometry on top there, but that's a good thing with Shivans, methinks. :nod: I like the vertical, non-symmetric orientation, although those leaves are, uhm... well, they'd better rotate! :p

EDIT: TVF Panzer - Coolest untextured color scheme, bar none! Oh yeah, the model is sweet, too. I'm not sure about the 2 Big Bertha cannons on the wings, though.
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you for got the Panzer, how the hell can you forget the panzer? ;7
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Originally posted by Sheepy
you for got the Panzer, how the hell can you forget the panzer? ;7


Easy. I just did it. :D (Fix0r3d)
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"...The quintessential quality of our age is that of dreams coming true. Just think of it. For centuries we have dreamt of flying; recently we made that come true: we have always hankered for speed; now we have speeds greater than we can stand: we wanted to speak to far parts of the Earth; we can: we wanted to explore the sea bottom; we have: and so  on, and so on: and, too, we wanted the power to smash our enemies utterly; we have it. If we had truly wanted peace, we should have had that as well. But true peace has never been one of the genuine dreams - we have got little further than preaching against war in order to appease our consciences. The truly wishful dreams, the many-minded dreams are now irresistible - they become facts." - 'The Outward Urge' by John Wyndham

"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

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The big guns are important. Cuz um... they're big... guns. And its a heavy fighter with big guns... so it needs... er.. big guns. :D

So you see, the big guns are absolutely necessary. ;)
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I'd say leave them and add two smaller gum mounts near the cockpit.  Those big guns would make excellent beam-bomber cannons if that is ever fully implemented, but they are two far away from the pov to be useful for anti-fighter roles.  Look at the Ursa; it is nearly impossible to effectively hit fighters with its main gun because it is so far to the side (the Bonageres suffers from the same flaw, the guns are way below pov) but against big targets the precision in targeting isn't that necessary and big guns are good.
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hmmm, Sandwich, those ships up until the Rhino are all aerospace, seeing as half of Exposition will take place in atmosphere and the other half in space, thats kinda...ya...

Don't you be dissin' that Orca :p

 

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hmmm, Sandwich, those ships up until the Rhino are all aerospace, seeing as half of Exposition will take place in atmosphere and the other half in space, thats kinda...ya...

Don't you be dissin' that Orca :p


lol - Yeah, I as chattin with Mikhael yesterday, and finally got around to asking him wtf was with all the propellors, so only then did I find out. Didn't have the strength to re-write those first reviews, though - it was late.

And the funny thing is that Mikhael had never even heard of the Orca (C&C, not killer whale)! I showed him some pics, so he said "Hmmm, all I have to add is some more PROPELLORS!!!" :p
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

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lol - Yeah, I as chattin with Mikhael yesterday, and finally got around to asking him wtf was with all the propellors, so only then did I find out. Didn't have the strength to re-write those first reviews, though - it was late.

And the funny thing is that Mikhael had never even heard of the Orca (C&C, not killer whale)! I showed him some pics, so he said "Hmmm, all I have to add is some more PROPELLORS!!!" :p


Keep in mind that the Diamondback and the Dragonfly are Narol's designs. I just cleaned up the geometry and LODed and Debrised them. One of these days when I'm not doing other stuff, I'll redesign those as  pure space fighters for the next act.
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Much of the stuff for Exposition, because C&C design concepts fit so well, are partially derived on those Orcas; you will note the way the propellors are placed inside rings ;)

Why reinvent the wheel?