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Offline Stunaep

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Man vs. Machine resulted in a tie.
on: October 19, 2002, 02:36:02 pm
from http://www.brainsinbahrain.com/:

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The Brains in Bahrain Man-Machine match is over and has finished in a 4-4 draw, with two wins each and four draws. Game 8 was the shortest game of the match, a 21-move draw. The World Champion was unable to make any progress against Fritz's solid defense. It was a tremendous result for Fritz, particularly after starting out with only half a point from the first three games. Both sides said they would be happy to play a rematch.

Kramnik was the big favorite at the start and was disappointed at his failures in the second half of the match, in which he scored two losses and two draws.

He said that he had started with a lot of respect for Fritz and now he had even more for the program and the team behind it. How much respect? Well, the last time an opponent escaped from Kramnik with a 21-move draw with the black pieces it was Garry Kasparov!


For those who haven't heard, the Brains in Bahrain match was a challenge between the the Chess World Champion Vladimir Kramnik and the Chess Computer Champion Deep Fritz. Now, the Deep Blue program that beat Garry Kasparov was a machine the size of a room, and it was upgraded after every match, so it was kind of cheating. Now the Deep Fritz is a PC program, that you can buy for approx. $70 and fits on a single CD-ROM. During the match no changes to the program were made whatsoever.

So it looks like Machine is now equal to Man. Cool, huh? :)
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Man vs. Machine resulted in a tie.
Reply #1 on: October 19, 2002, 02:38:08 pm
And it will only get better from here... ;7
 

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Reply #2 on: October 19, 2002, 02:44:06 pm
NO! YOU FOOLS! CAN'T YOU SEE? Ten, twenty years from now, our own machines will TURN ON THEIR CREATORS, and, with the strategic knowledge we give them with our chess software, they will have what they need to TAKE OVER THE WORLD! We will be but pawns before the queen to their mighty chess-playing prowess! What is next- will they learn the terrible secrest of... Parcheesi?

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Re: Man vs. Machine resulted in a tie.
Reply #3 on: October 19, 2002, 02:44:41 pm
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So it looks like Machine is now equal to Man. Cool, huh? :)


In chess, yes. But when we get a machine that is "as good" as man in any variety of activities, I will be significantly impressed. Until then... meh.


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Reply #4 on: October 19, 2002, 02:45:31 pm
Soon the cubeputers will dominate us all!!

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Reply #5 on: October 19, 2002, 02:47:16 pm
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Ten, twenty years from now, our own machines will TURN ON THEIR CREATORS


yeah, and beat us in chess :D
 

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Reply #6 on: October 19, 2002, 02:47:53 pm
yeah, most likely it shows that when the US goes to war against Iraq, they probably should let a computer handle the strategy.
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Reply #7 on: October 19, 2002, 02:49:26 pm
...

Isn't it great when someone takes your joke and repeats it, only in a less funny way?

Don't you hate that? Isn't it annoying? I really don't know what's with those people, do you, Stealth?:p
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Offline Stealth

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Reply #8 on: October 19, 2002, 03:15:29 pm
**** my bad dude!!! i only saw the first part of your reply ;)
 

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Reply #9 on: October 19, 2002, 03:18:14 pm
HAL 9000, here we come.

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Reply #10 on: October 19, 2002, 03:25:06 pm
it doesn't mean machines are better than us it means we can be better with machines
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Reply #11 on: October 19, 2002, 03:34:51 pm
Stealth: It's all right. I'll just file it in my subconscious, storing my resentment and festering rage and allowing it to grow over the years until one day...:D
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Offline diamondgeezer

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Reply #12 on: October 19, 2002, 04:03:43 pm
1997 has come and gone. If the machines were gonna take over, it'd have happened by now :)


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Reply #13 on: October 19, 2002, 04:23:29 pm
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1997 has come and gone.

All right, true enough...

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If the machines were gonna take over, it'd have happened by now

Possibly, possibly...

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1997 has come and gone. If the machines were gonna take over, it'd have happened by now


It's this part that gives me trouble.:wtf:
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Reply #14 on: October 19, 2002, 04:39:09 pm
Wow :wtf: ,   many movies i saw this kind of thing:

The Matrix
Terminator
A Space Oddisey 2001

Pinky & The Brain :wtf:   jeje

At last i could beat once in my life the Dam Olg Guy of Chess Master 8,   and it was in difficult mode.
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Offline diamondgeezer

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Reply #15 on: October 19, 2002, 05:48:28 pm
I remember August 29th 1997 quite clearly. Me and the boys were sat in school, plastered with Factor 2000000 sunblock and poised to duck and cover at the slightest hint of a stealth bomber.


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Pinky & The Brain


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Reply #16 on: October 19, 2002, 05:55:32 pm
so it can beat us in chess. big deal. the human brain can preform millions of times more calculations per second than a computer.
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Reply #17 on: October 19, 2002, 06:10:33 pm
Computers, however, can spell better...
 

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Reply #18 on: October 19, 2002, 06:16:42 pm
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
NO! YOU FOOLS! CAN'T YOU SEE? Ten, twenty years from now, our own machines will TURN ON THEIR CREATORS, and, with the strategic knowledge we give them with our chess software, they will have what they need to TAKE OVER THE WORLD! We will be but pawns before the queen to their mighty chess-playing prowess! What is next- will they learn the terrible secrest of... Parcheesi?

Meh, gimme Go any day.


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Reply #19 on: October 19, 2002, 06:25:56 pm
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
NO! YOU FOOLS! CAN'T YOU SEE? Ten, twenty years from now, our own machines will TURN ON THEIR CREATORS, and, with the strategic knowledge we give them with our chess software, they will have what they need to TAKE OVER THE WORLD! We will be but pawns before the queen to their mighty chess-playing prowess! What is next- will they learn the terrible secrest of... Parcheesi?

Meh, gimme Go any day.


Hmmm, i thaught that happened back in 1987 :D
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