[ionia23]

who gives a flux....

[Nuclear1]

This might be of some use

I dunno... I technically don't think the Super Laser of FS1 was actually a beam. [V] may have intended it be a beam, but it looked more like a missile with an extremely long tail.

The way it moves is too.... missile and flux-like to actually resemble a beam. Beams move so fast that they power up, fire, then instantly hit the target. The SSL moves slowly.... like flux...

Me shutup now

[Mr. Vega]

I think Derelict did a good remakeing for the Lucifer with the Narlahotep(sp?).

2 BFReds in the front, 2 LReds on ether side and 1 LRed in the back.

[Solatar]

*Goes off to make firing point on side for bigass blue beam*

[Hippo]

Originally posted by Hades
Said in the tech description that they were flux cannons, but it also said there were three of them...

For the last time, that is FALSE... I spent 2 weeks getting to know the fs1 default lucy, flying around it in a fred mission, and watching EVERY turret fire... Call me the Lucifer Expert

[Solatar]

I know there are only two of them. i was pointing out that V said something, then they said something else which makes you doubt that either one is correct.

[Slasher]

Spending two weeks getting aquainted with good 'ol Lucifer, eh?

Ah, you could do worse.  *cough*Hecate*cough*

[Nuclear1]

Originally posted by Slasher
Spending two weeks getting aquainted with good 'ol Lucifer, eh?

Ah, you could do worse.  *cough*Hecate*cough*

Seriously, though. If you really want to see if the Lucy has three fluxes, CHECK THE FRED ENTRY! On a standard Lucifer, only Turret1 and Turret2 are labeled as Shivan Super Laser. Maybe what [V] was intending was for Turret15 (rear and bottom turret) was supposed to be the planet waster (backed up from the direction the Lucy was pointing in the Vasuda Command Brief).

Don't get me wrong. I'm not a nerd.

[Goober5000]

I am.

Have a look at the shivasubkiller cbani in FS1.  You can see very clearly a cage-like structure on the side, glowing at the tip, that isn't present in the actual model.

You can see the same structure in the FS2 intro (when the beam charges up) and the FS1 ending movie (when the front half gets chopped off; you can actually see it on both sides).

So intended the cagelike structure to be on the Lucifer, but for some reason it never got transferred onto the in-game model.

The cage-like structure, apparently, is supposed to be a beam emitter of the same type seen in FS2 (based on the FS2 intro and also on the fact that the weapon that nuked Vasuda looked like a beam).

In conclusion, go look at Vertigo1's diagram.  I think he's got it all figured out.

[CP5670]

Spending two weeks getting aquainted with good 'ol Lucifer, eh?

Ah, you could do worse.  *cough*Hecate*cough*

I did that with the Hatshepsut, which is how I discovered that turret inside the hull.

[Goober5000]

Originally posted by CP5670
I did that with the Hatshepsut, which is how I discovered that turret inside the hull.

Eh?

[Redfang]

I'd say it's missile with a long trail. Not a laser, as it doesn't go light-speed.
 
But that's because FS1 doesn't have the beam code.

[Colonol Dekker]

Call me a frootloop, but i cant open my FS1 tables in notepad same as my FS2 ones, how the hell are you guys doing this?

[Solatar]

When they open in Notepad, do they look weird? It's because the fs1 tables are encoded, the fs2 ones aren't. When you extract them, make sure .vpview decodes them also.

[Falcon X]

It's great you wasted your time flying around the lucy... but here's the thing.  In two mission briefings... the lucy fires from her side.  

The lucifer must have been highly experimental and not just some **** up by V because they didn't have the tech.

Think about it, why wasn't all the ships shielded?  The lucy was special.

[Vertigo1]

Originally posted by Knight Templar
and here's me thiking that FS2 intro was just another screw up..

Doesn't it in one of the cutscenes show the Lucy killing Vasuda with the foward cannons?

No, we just see a blue beam hit the surface, then it cuts to the Lucifer in orbit with the left side FACING the planet.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Goober5000

So intended the cagelike structure to be on the Lucifer, but for some reason it never got transferred onto the in-game model.

polycount, most likely... the other *cough* Excuse *cough* reason could be that it is only deployed at certain times.

Incidentally, I think that ani was taken from a dropped cutscene, if you look at the renders on the descent-network site.  Possibly the destruction of Vasuda Prime one.

[Solatar]

That would have been an awesome cutscene.

[Nuclear1]

Originally posted by aldo_14


Incidentally, I think that ani was taken from a dropped cutscene, if you look at the renders on the descent-network site.  Possibly the destruction of Vasuda Prime one.

Hit the nail on the head, aldo.

If any of you have the FS Ref Bible, the author noted that several cutscenes were dropped, including one with the Lucifer obliterating Tombaugh Station (would've been a darn good one too). Probably the footage from the Command Brief is from the former cutscene...

*thats enough out of me*
*runs*

[CP5670]

The news report, political meeting and science lab cutscenes would have been ttoally awesome; it's too bad that they were dropped...